If you are an ATHEIST- WATCH THIS

[chilidog]

I got a good laugh from all of this.

Hey God, if you exist strike me down as I type this.


Oh shit did I die? Nope still here.

Well, one could say the inverse as well. "God, if you exist, keep my internet turned on". lol

Would you care for a little friendly bet my friend? If you can prove those clips are fake- ill pay you 1000 pts if not you pay me, is that a deal? I'm giving you 1 month to prove it.

It's not a fair bet; it's one-sided. The fair bet would be if he can prove that the clips are fake, then you will pay the 1,000 points. However, if you can prove that the clips are real, then he would pay you 1,000 points.

[castle]

Ahahaha. You just set back every religious organizations attempt at proving god at least 50 years. I have never seen such a hysterical and scarily dumb argument for religion, ever.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts

Good luck with your tirade.

[pronk]

hey pronk go **** yourself. What was your goal here? to insult anyone who doesn't believe what you believe?

I'm in the 216 as I think you may be too, lets meet up and you can tell me what a dipshit I am for not believing in god.

You Betcha, 216. You must be one of those 125.000 pinkos in Cuyahoga County who voted for indicted judge Bridget M. McCafferty. Am I right or wrong?

[DrStale]

Would you care for a little friendly bet my friend? If you can prove those clips are fake- ill pay you 1000 pts if not you pay me, is that a deal? I'm giving you 1 month to prove it.

You are religious, therefore even if I prove that the clips are fake you will probably tell me that you still believe the clips are real because of your faith or something. Proof and facts really aren't something you guys have a lot of interest in.

That, and I dont really care that much to actually put in the effort, I just think people that follow organized religion are funny.

[pronk]

You are religious, therefore even if I prove that the clips are fake you will probably tell me that you still believe the clips are real because of your faith or something. Proof and facts really aren't something you guys have a lot of interest in.

That, and I dont really care that much to actually put in the effort, I just think people that follow organized religion are funny.

Guess what- I AM NOT RELIGIOUS!


What if I gave you just 1 clip to prove, the easiest one, that ABC special?

[stealthyburrito]

perhaps you could better convince everyone the existence of god by writing a dissertation in some field of theological studies.

i'll give you 3 years.

[ProfaneReality]

You Betcha, 216. You must be one of those 125.000 pinkos in Cuyahoga County who voted for indicted judge Bridget M. McCafferty. Am I right or wrong?

didn't vote for any judges, don't know a thing about them.

the difference between us is I admit when I have no knowledge of something, you and your people claim to know the unprovable.

[THE PROFIT]

perhaps you could better convince everyone the existence of god by writing a dissertation in some field of theological studies.

i'll give you 3 years.

no, its easier to post youtube videos because we know everything you see on the internet is real.

Retard Burgers at a soup kitchen??? Are you fukin 14 years old or something?? Im done with this kid & responding to any of this lunacy, what a fukin creepy kid

[pronk]

didn't vote for any judges, don't know a thing about them.

the difference between us is I admit when I have no knowledge of something, you and your people claim to know the unprovable.

Yes, myself and my people!
Galileo Galilei, Nicholas Copernicus, Isaac Newton, Gregor Mendel, Rene Descartes, Johannes Kepler, Francis Bacon, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, Max Planck and others. Great company!
Albert Einstein once said: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

[pronk]

I forgot to mention Charles Darwin.

[JohnGalt2341]

Anyone who believes the earth is 6000 years old is a fukking nut job and needs to be shot.

Gold Jerry! Gold!!

What about hot chicks? Should they be shot too?

[pronk]

no, its easier to post youtube videos because we know everything you see on the internet is real.

Retard Burgers at a soup kitchen??? Are you fukin 14 years old or something?? Im done with this kid & responding to any of this lunacy, what a fukin creepy kid

Goddamn troll... Go and salute your confederate flag stinky.

[yahoop144]

god pronk you are a fukkin idiot, even the mainstream church considers exorcisms bullshit, most that engage in exorcism are christian extremists.

good work setting your faith back another few centuries.

Moron.

[marcoloco]

i find the theory of evolution pretty hard to swallow....

[uva3021]

i find the theory of evolution pretty hard to swallow....

probably don't understand it, which is fiine not all people are able to comprehend rationality

[marcoloco]

probably don't understand it, which is fiine not all people are able to comprehend rationality

dumb it down and sum it up for me. & ill spot u a few points

[pronk]

dumb it down and sum it up for me. & ill spot u a few points

Marco, ask him how come Charles Darwin wasn't an atheist and why he believed in God.

[uva3021]

first you have to understand the concept of common ancestor, all organic beings evolved from a common ancestor, and our most recent common ancestor is that of the chimpanzee.

second you have to understand the notion of time. Its taken 4.6 billion years to evolve from an RNA molecule to the phyla of organisms that embody the anatomical space thriving today. Modern humans, those with which we are probably able to procreate with, are about 45,000 years old, and this has been calculated using a measure of radioactive decay, since elements decay at a constant and predictable rate. The Y Chromosone can be traced back to one single individual which contributed the Y Chromosone gene to the gene pool. Going back 250,000 years, we can deduce the originator of the mitochondrial gene that all humans get exclusive from the mother. From the original replicator 4.6 billion years ago, 45,000 years is about 1/100th of a nanosecond for each 1000 years, to put it in some perspective

third, modern evolution, or ever since Darwin's contemporary Mendel discovered hereditary transmission (coincidentally the two assertions of fact, evolution and heredity, did not coalesce into the same scientific spectrum until a few decades later) is all about genes and the gene pool. Genes are not allocated to designate little bits of body, but act as a recipe that serve as a basis for developmental flexibility and a range of possibilities based on the environment for which one grows. To get into what DNA actually is and serves to calibrate would be overstepping simplicity, however one should understand the principle law of molecular biology is genetic information only flows in one direction. Therefore genes can only be modified by copying error, parasitic attachments, and mutations. Those mutations, or changes in genetic material that contribute best to an organisms genetic fitness will disseminate the gene pool. Any phenotype that accentuates ones reproductive capacity will lead to the corresponding genotype, on average, to be passed down to the next generation. Again genetic material flows in one direction.

So with an accumulation of random, though as it is today, consequential genetic accidents, complexity upon bits of complexity leads to organisms with a wide range of adaptation, physiological versatility, and developmental flexibility. Though the harsh reality of nature is there is no direction of evolution, and organisms are merely taking up anatomical space from a starting point of an RNA replicator (summing continual copies of the number one will only lead to a greater number, ala greater complexity in organisms but still devoid of purpose)

There is a reason ants, bees, and centipedes are social organisms, siblings share 75% genetic material, rather than the 50% that is standard with sexually reproducing species. It would optimize the fecundity of an ant's genetic material to practice intense sibling selection in expense of going out and starting a family. Conversely for mammals, starting a family gives us the greatest opportunity to copy our genes and have the most grandchildren.

[yahoop144]

Marco, ask him how come Charles Darwin wasn't an atheist and why he believed in God.

wow you don't look beyond surface level ever do you?

darwin was clearly an atheist, he just had to appeal to a christian elite audience to get his theory out to the educated people.

cmon guy, high school knowledge right there.

[uva3021]

yeah Darwin did not believe in God, and struggled mightily with this fact due to the cultural boundries in science that were just now being defined of his day. Alfred Wallace, the independent co-discoverer of evolution fluctuated between religious and agnostic before deciding on a god-fearing individual because he could not understand how intelligence only has yet to come to evolve only once, while many other features have evolved independently on a number of occasions (asexuality, echolocation, camouflage). Essentially human abstract thought and foresight constrained him to ultimately being a proponent of Spirituality

[yahoop144]

yeah Darwin did not believe in God, and struggled mightily with this fact due to the cultural boundries in science that were just now being defined of his day. Alfred Wallace, the independent co-discoverer of evolution fluctuated between religious and agnostic before deciding on a god-fearing individual because he could not understand how intelligence only has yet to come to evolve only once, while many other features have evolved independently on a number of occasions (asexuality, echolocation, camouflage). Essentially human abstract thought and foresight constrained him to ultimately being a proponent of Spirituality

well said uva

may i ask, did you attend the great UVA.

[uva3021]

well said uva may i ask, did you attend the great UVA.

no I didn't but I'm going to vatech in the spring to work towards a PhD in statistical genomic theory so I can study the mutation rate of genes

[THE PROFIT]

Goddamn troll... Go and salute your confederate flag stinky.

you mentioned my name in your first post in this thread you fukin genius.

Guys, quit trying to talk sense to this kid, he believes in ghosts & demonic possession for fuks sake. You all are acting dumber than him by trying to use logic. He's obviously just a stupid fuk, there's a lot of them out there

[chilidog]

All very well said, uva. I think you might qualify as one of the top 10 most intellectual posters on sbr.

[ok now what]

You got that too!!!!

Good, I'm glad I'm the not the only one who heard that.

Familiar with the "Creation Museum"??? I think it's in Ohio. . . they portray through Spielbergesque animatronics how the dinosaurs were a part of Noah's ark.

I asked a christian this very question one time, and their response was that god put the bones there when he created the earth, and he did that to test our faith. I am usually pretty respectful of people's beliefs, but I had to laugh back at him when he said that to me.

[pronk]

yeah Darwin did not believe in God

In his autobiography, Darwin wrote:

".Another source of conviction in the existance of God ... follows from the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capability of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting I feel compelled to look at a first cause having an intelligent mind in some degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called a theist. This conclusion was strong in my mind about the time, as far I can remember, when I wrote the species very gradually with many fluctuations become weaker."

[muldoon]

Undeniable proof of ghosts.

LOL. I saw this years ago and it still is funny.

[yahoop144]

In his autobiography, Darwin wrote:

".Another source of conviction in the existance of God ... follows from the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capability of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting I feel compelled to look at a first cause having an intelligent mind in some degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called a theist. This conclusion was strong in my mind about the time, as far I can remember, when I wrote the species very gradually with many fluctuations become weaker."

good quote, but read the text in its entirety.

[uva3021]

lol nice quote but thanks for providing source for the proof of his struggle in acceptance of a God

[stealthyburrito]

lol, the struggle to connect darwin and christianity is laughable.

he was clearly against any institution of religion.

[marcoloco]

first you have to understand the concept of common ancestor, all organic beings evolved from a common ancestor, and our most recent common ancestor is that of the chimpanzee.

second you have to understand the notion of time. Its taken 4.6 billion years to evolve from an RNA molecule to the phyla of organisms that embody the anatomical space thriving today. Modern humans, those with which we are probably able to procreate with, are about 45,000 years old, and this has been calculated using a measure of radioactive decay, since elements decay at a constant and predictable rate. The Y Chromosone can be traced back to one single individual which contributed the Y Chromosone gene to the gene pool. Going back 250,000 years, we can deduce the originator of the mitochondrial gene that all humans get exclusive from the mother. From the original replicator 4.6 billion years ago, 45,000 years is about 1/100th of a nanosecond for each 1000 years, to put it in some perspective

third, modern evolution, or ever since Darwin's contemporary Mendel discovered hereditary transmission (coincidentally the two assertions of fact, evolution and heredity, did not coalesce into the same scientific spectrum until a few decades later) is all about genes and the gene pool. Genes are not allocated to designate little bits of body, but act as a recipe that serve as a basis for developmental flexibility and a range of possibilities based on the environment for which one grows. To get into what DNA actually is and serves to calibrate would be overstepping simplicity, however one should understand the principle law of molecular biology is genetic information only flows in one direction. Therefore genes can only be modified by copying error, parasitic attachments, and mutations. Those mutations, or changes in genetic material that contribute best to an organisms genetic fitness will disseminate the gene pool. Any phenotype that accentuates ones reproductive capacity will lead to the corresponding genotype, on average, to be passed down to the next generation. Again genetic material flows in one direction.

So with an accumulation of random, though as it is today, consequential genetic accidents, complexity upon bits of complexity leads to organisms with a wide range of adaptation, physiological versatility, and developmental flexibility. Though the harsh reality of nature is there is no direction of evolution, and organisms are merely taking up anatomical space from a starting point of an RNA replicator (summing continual copies of the number one will only lead to a greater number, ala greater complexity in organisms but still devoid of purpose)

There is a reason ants, bees, and centipedes are social organisms, siblings share 75% genetic material, rather than the 50% that is standard with sexually reproducing species. It would optimize the fecundity of an ant's genetic material to practice intense sibling selection in expense of going out and starting a family. Conversely for mammals, starting a family gives us the greatest opportunity to copy our genes and have the most grandchildren.

thx for the info. from what i remember in school it is all still a theory and cant be proven? that it has a massive amounts of holes in it? not sure about though.

maybe the reason its said to take 46+billion years for it to happen is because in that amount of time it takes for the mathematical odds to be relevant. not claiming to take any sides just this whole evolution process seems more far fetched than any other human existence theories. Even aliens making humans sounds more plausible, at least there is clips on small evidence of them

[marcoloco]

anyone see that movie the 4th kind? it really looked like the so called alien abduction were more of demon possessions? (assuming the org film clips are genuine)

[Snowball]

I've heard this police seargent on talk shows years ago. Very real shit here.
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[pronk]

Snowball, the new testament story about Lazarus ends with these words: 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'

[chilidog]

I have a feeling that if Jesus did come back from the dead, and proclaim it as such, the majority of Christians wouldn't believe him, and would cast him off as just another crazy person. The U.S. has 'In God We Trust' on all of our currency; yet if a person says that God talks to him, then that person is deemed crazy.