Is Obama Risking the Same Fate as JFK?

[ritehook]

I'm cool to conspiracy theories.

I walked out in the middle of Oliver Stone's fantasy flick about the JFK thing some years ago. Never read a book on it. I run if someone starts telling me 9-11 was an inside job.

But I did smell a rat in the war propaganda that ran us into the disastrous and tragic Iraqi adventure. A few weeks before that started USA Today had a point counterpoint, presenting both sides.

I don't recall the Bushie who made the case for war, but the case agaisnt was made by one Justin Raimundo, who ran a site called antiwar.com. So I began visiting that site every now and then. Indispesable for contrary-to-the-propaganda viewpoints.

Altho Raimondo is a libertarian (who also writes for Pat Buchanan's magazine on occasion) all spectrum of the polit rainbow is on display at the site, if one is in opposition to the war and offering reliable news or a unique viewpoint., (Some of the best comes for Uri Avnery, an Israeli war vet and current peace advocate)

Raimondo is a gay gent, from Frisco. Which doesn't prevent him for ridiculing the "homintern," his term (taking off on the old Communist Internationale) for politically organized homosexuals who would twist policy for their own benefit.

He sometimes offers very interesting insights and views in his twice weekly column, and - important to me - his writing "reads" fast. He slices to the core.

This one I found of particular intersst. I'll add that like JFK, Obama is "outside" in a personal (and obvious) way - he's black. Kennedy was Catholic, and I think the first non-Mason before or since to occupy the Oval Office.

JFK had cachet with youth. So too does the Senator for Illinois. Kennedy angered many, and even if Oswald was a lone assassin the atmosphere in the USA then was somewhat toxic.

Handicapping politics is like handicapping sports. You have to know where the true power lies.

If it is so that Obama's candidicy has certain domestic and foreign power centers worried, as Raimondo states, then he could be facing a greater danger than an oridinary candidate.

Just something to think about. Even if what's-his-names mom doesn't care for this line of investigation,

Link is:

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12366

[ritehook]

I don't know if Lee Harvey O was a lone assassin or not. Tho I read something just today, letters released after being kept locked up for decades, that indicated that Oswald and his eventual assassin, Jack Ruby, had exchanged letters before the killing of JFL.

But maybe that was just more rumor-mongering.

[slacker00]

The president is much more protected today than the days of JFK.

Besides, I don't see Obama doing anything crazy like messing with the mob. JFK was about to turn some screws on some guys that shoulda been left alone. Just stay in line, in life, you'll live a lot longer.

[Cannon]

He can't beat Hillary they will never let that happen. The fix is in.

[Vesuvius]

He is already is beating Hillary.

[BrentCrude]

The problem I have with the Kennedy conspiracists is this

When mentioning all the people that could have been involved in the Kennedy assassination,why don't the conspiracists ever bring into play husbands,fathers,brothers,boyfriends,gra ndpas of the women JFK was boinking?It was probably a litteral gauntlet-shooting gallery of potential people from that category that wanted to see him dead.Nature takes it's course in cruel ways when you behave like a politician and all political candidates have screwed people litterally and physically where it's never surprising to me when they get done in.It's an occupational hazard and a great equalizer.

Remember your high school class where certain goodie two shoes were always running for class president,homecoming king or queen,best citizen etc.they thought everyone liked them and was benefitting from their butting into everything.hehe!I guess from the time Bill Clinton was5 years old he was an A-hole like that!!

Then today you had the big news story where Castro the old socialist resigned as president.They always say that many people in Cuba hated him.I think the ones that hated him all got out of there.All the rest still living in Cuba either loved him or were brainwashed to love him.If that weren't the case,why wouldn't someone with terminal cancer long ago killed him where they had nothing to lose by getting killed themself?

[Scorpion]

He can't beat Hillary they will never let that happen. The fix is in.

i agree, i bet Michelle Obama will say something crazy and will ruin it for Borak!

[The Seer]

I don't know if Lee Harvey O was a lone assassin or not. Tho I read something just today, letters released after being kept locked up for decades, that indicated that Oswald and his eventual assassin, Jack Ruby, had exchanged letters before the killing of JFL.

But maybe that was just more rumor-mongering.

It turns out it was a movie script is what I read.

[Sportsgirl]

It turns out it was a movie script is what I read.

Your wolf avatar looks like my dog Max. What happened to the one you just had up - I liked it.

[The Seer]

Your wolf avatar looks like my dog Max. What happened to the one you just had up - I liked it.

Just changing up for a bit. I'll put it back later.

[ritehook]

He can't beat Hillary they will never let that happen. The fix is in.

"The fix is in," is basically what Raimondo was saying in the piece.

I was taking a darker view, ie that if the fix is in but if Barak gets the nomination anyway some Southern racist will be manufactured to do a dirty deed, but the hand behind the Kluxer will be manipulated by Mossad.

Here's a key sentence from Raimondo's article:

In fact, I give it until sometime next week, when we'll be hearing that Obama is an anti-Semite – or, at least, that he is close to "known" anti-Semites (specifically, the Nation of Islam and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright); that he's anti-Israel, and that he – Barack Hussein Obama – is an "appeaser" whose foreign policy views are way to the "left" of right-reason.

I don't think "next week" is right, but somewhere along the way . . .

[The Seer]

"The fix is in," is basically what Raimondo was saying in the piece.

I was taking a darker view, ie that if the fix is in but if Barak gets the nomination anyway some Southern racist will be manufactured to do a dirty deed, but the hand behind the Kluxer will be manipulated by Mossad.

Here's a key sentence from Raimondo's article:

In fact, I give it until sometime next week, when we'll be hearing that Obama is an anti-Semite – or, at least, that he is close to "known" anti-Semites (specifically, the Nation of Islam and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright); that he's anti-Israel, and that he – Barack Hussein Obama – is an "appeaser" whose foreign policy views are way to the "left" of right-reason.

I don't think "next week" is right, but somewhere along the way . . .

I believe we'll start hearing that as well and the Jews have all of the $ so it'll be tough on him.

[BrentCrude]

Anyone here the Rush Limbaugh Obama song?

Not that I'm a big fan of Rush Limbaugh that much anymore but the guy used to be funnier way back when he used humor more like he is now with Barak the magic negro song he's in trouble for playing.He got the idea from a black liberal newpaper columnist who used that line but now the liberal media is blaming Rush for coming up with it.I haven't heard the whole thing but I'm assuming it might have a little to do with Obama still being a heavy toker and stoker of many illegal substances?

[ritehook]

Actually, many of the most urgent voices re the baleful influence of the Israel Lobby in the US comes from those of Jewish heritage - the cyber pages of antiwar.com have a number.

The authors of the monumental report on the Israel Lobby - which actually hit the NY Times Bestseller List for a few weeks last year, are, I think, of Jewish heritage. (Mearsheimer and Walt)

However, what one former presidential candidate (himself part Jewish) called the "big New York money" is almost always on the side of Israeli nationalism, even at the cost of American lives and treasures. One can include "Hollywood money" into the equation.

And in fact, Obama has advisors on both sides of that issue. Countering Brzhenski (spelled wrong I know) is Dennis Ross, a former MidEast envoy in the Clinton Admin, who pretends to be unbiased but is in fact an echo chamber of Tel Aviv.

[The HG]

One fun thing, if Obama really actually does become President, which still feels hard to imagine, is that any and all White Power organizations in the US will quadruple or more in size, motivation, enthusiasm, activity, etc etc. That will be AWESOME. White Power people are some of the top top most entertaining and exciting people around. There's nothing scarier than an indignant pissed off cabal of skinheads. But since their peak, around the whole Geraldo incident, they have been slowly on the decline. If Obama becomes President, they will be bigger than they have ever been, by far.

Also, and I hope I'm wrong, but I predict that if Obama does become President, the White Power people will try a suicide bomb attempt to get rid of him. All the protection for Presidents is based around stopping people with guns, not the far more effective but way more insane Middle East style of assassinating people which is ok with killing the assassin and whatever surrounding innocents in the process. But that, I predict, is what a White Power group will do. They know they will never be able to just go right up to him and shoot him, so someone will sacrifice his life to try to get it done, Middle East style.

[aszzzbrokerman]

White power movement is a gigantic failure. They've never succeeded at any of their agendas. Whenever they all come out of the woodworks all they do is speed up a process which they are supposed to be slowing down.

It started with the church bombings a few generations ago. The feds, the north, etc, couldn't have given a flying phuck about what was happening to the darkies in the south until they saw it on T.V.

Then Tim McVeigh decided to take matters into his own hands but instead caused the movement to have to move further underground than it already had.

What does everyone really think would happen if they tried to assassinate obama? I hope they do. It would be interesting to be alive at such a crazy time. I need something to tell my kids about.

[Shark79]

First White Female to run for president, First Black Male to run for president ... I dont know much bout politics (at least in the US) ... but looking at this party ... could it be safe to say which ever wins this side ... would be the next US President?

[ShamsWoof10]

It's as I said not long ago... I think Obama gets elected and during his first term the economy will get much worse and he will "appear" to come to the rescue and sign a HUGE bill... This will create many new jobs and it will be to rebuild our infrastructure... The economy will show signs of recovery and then just after his re-election in 2012 he will get killed...

There will be brief civil unrest before "martial law" is enforced and NATO troops will calm things down and all will be well...

[pico]

to avoid assination, obama need to have 50 cent as his vp. no white suprimacist would dare to hurt obama.

[Iwinyourmoney]

to avoid assination, obama need to have 50 cent as his vp. no white suprimacist would dare to hurt obama.

[Terpman92]

Mr. T would reall kick some ass!

[jjgold]

I would say -140 or so someone tries to pop him if he gets in office

[SchlepRock]

Obama gets shot.

Obama-140
Obama+140

We could do a 3 day parlay that he dont die right away.

[SchlepRock]

I like Obama. But im sure that the people in Washington, you know the real people that run this country is going to let anyone stop this money maker called WAR. So start trading your kids baseball bats for M16. and KIss them goodbye.

[rake922]

to avoid assination, obama need to have 50 cent as his vp. no white suprimacist would dare to hurt obama.

That would be even worse for the guy....