Bye Bye Mrs. Clinton

[pavyracer]

He really does make it too easy.

It's not a big mystery to me but since Serenity Now appeared briefly on Sunday curious has been miraculously cured from his rage and Gulf War Syndrome.

[imgv94]

I wish people would stop quoting tacomax.

[ritehook]

"One [racist, anti-feminst] dude among 300,000 voters."

Um, yeah, I think the percentages are a bit higher than that. It's clear that many of the white underclass voted for Edwards.

Some of these people (more than a few) will not vote for a black. Hopefully it will be outweighed by those who will not vote for a superannuated warmonger like McCain. Frikkin' hundred years in Iraq, ^*)#@## Manchurian Candidate . . .

"FAR FROM OVER," as imgv said. Agreed. Esp if the bitch can win Ohio, Texas and Pennsy.

But if no one has all the votes wrapped up going into the convention, and Obama does not get sucked into the vice presidency game (he won't be able to put Hillary on his lap like Cheney does with Bush), then Obama should win.

Because ----- if a "brokered convention" goes for Hillary, the blacks and many of the other Obama voters will boycott the election.

Hello President McCain, Hello Darkness My Old Friend.

[ritehook]

And what a loser Ron Paul turned out to be.

Lame percentages despite super funding. And now promises not to run as a 3rd party candidate, despite the fact that McCain, with his imperialist overreach, represents everything that he opposes.

[Poker_Beast]

Dude, that last avatar is just to the right of disgusting. Please change immediately!

What, you do not like big ?

[tacomax]

"FAR FROM OVER," as imgv said. Agreed. Esp if the bitch can win Ohio, Texas and Pennsy.

He posted last month about "How does Barack Obama win the primary when he is going to lose in Cal,NY and Texas" - I don't think he's a pivotal political analyst.

But if no one has all the votes wrapped up going into the convention, and Obama does not get sucked into the vice presidency game (he won't be able to put Hillary on his lap like Cheney does with Bush), then Obama should win.

Because ----- if a "brokered convention" goes for Hillary, the blacks and many of the other Obama voters will boycott the election.

If so many people are so lacking in intelligence that will refuse to vote rather than elect someone who is either non-white or non-male, it should be a lock for the Republicans. You can get +166 on them at Matchbook at the moment - that's one of the best-priced locks I've ever seen.

Any please don't quote any of my post - it'll make imgv cry.

[isetcap]

And the current foreign policy is working?

Well at least we have our military on the front line of the battle as opposed to the civilians. Maybe the "change" might be better.

[purecarnagge]

Democrats problems in presidential elections are all tied to the south. They lost the south badly in the last elections. It wasn't even a competition or a comparison. Gore/Kerry it was terrible. They got slaughtered down there. Its clutch to get votes there for the dems.

Now Clinton is banking on winning Texas and Ohio to turn the campaign around. I'm not sure how/if that will happen. I think she will win texas. Clinton does well with Latino Voters, and there is alot of racism down there.

Can Obama win? he could, at this point im rooting for him just from the underdog point of view. Plus i have 50.00 with him at like +1400 odds.

Our current foreign policy is not the best, its sad to say the least. President Bush couldn't negotiate for anything without saying I'll just invade you. Bush Jr is a joke and his presidency will be about starting a war based on incorrect evidence? What else has he done? He's run the country into a recession. Debate it all you want its already here, GM lost 36b btw, as the auto industry goes, so does the countries economy according to an old saying.

[treece]

I don't get why people vote for Obama.

[ritehook]

He posted last month about "How does Barack Obama win the primary when he is going to lose in Cal,NY and Texas" - I don't think he's a pivotal political analyst. -tacomax

Um, TM, please post the entire reply or thread where I said this. If it was so stated, it was done so as a question - and since she has won Cal and NY and is prob fave in Texas, the answer would be a brokered convention. When in January (last month) not too many were thinking that way.

Still, I think you may have me confused with someone else, as I don't recall this comment. Post the full thing, or at least give me the date. If I have early Alzheimer's I want to start making plans for long-term care . . .

[TexansFan]

assassination possibility. i voted for hillary with hopes that we can get her for 8 and then obama for 8. no way we could have the reverse.

[isetcap]

He posted last month about "How does Barack Obama win the primary when he is going to lose in Cal,NY and Texas" - I don't think he's a pivotal political analyst. -tacomax

Um, TM, please post the entire reply or thread where I said this. If it was so stated, it was done so as a question - and since she has won Cal and NY and is prob fave in Texas, the answer would be a brokered convention. When in January (last month) not too many were thinking that way.

Still, I think you may have me confused with someone else, as I don't recall this comment. Post the full thing, or at least give me the date. If I have early Alzheimer's I want to start making plans for long-term care . . .

I think Tacomax was referencing his good friend imgv when he was rehashing this statement. Fortunately you appear to be politically cognizant enough that Tacomax does not need to point out your shortcomings, whereas it is often necessary with others.

Just make sure you watch your spelling. Tacomax ran off a "well-respected", "self-proclaimed", "English major" who used to make a lot of picks (but never bet the under).

[INVEGA MAN]

The choices we have for out next president is very scary

[curious]

"One [racist, anti-feminst] dude among 300,000 voters."

Um, yeah, I think the percentages are a bit higher than that. It's clear that many of the white underclass voted for Edwards.

Some of these people (more than a few) will not vote for a black. Hopefully it will be outweighed by those who will not vote for a superannuated warmonger like McCain. Frikkin' hundred years in Iraq, ^*)#@## Manchurian Candidate . . .

"FAR FROM OVER," as imgv said. Agreed. Esp if the bitch can win Ohio, Texas and Pennsy.

But if no one has all the votes wrapped up going into the convention, and Obama does not get sucked into the vice presidency game (he won't be able to put Hillary on his lap like Cheney does with Bush), then Obama should win.

Because ----- if a "brokered convention" goes for Hillary, the blacks and many of the other Obama voters will boycott the election.

Hello President McCain, Hello Darkness My Old Friend.

I think if the Cintonistas get the ticket by a backroom "deal" Obama and his supporters will start a 3rd party campaign.

[curious]

Democrats problems in presidential elections are all tied to the south. They lost the south badly in the last elections. It wasn't even a competition or a comparison. Gore/Kerry it was terrible. They got slaughtered down there. Its clutch to get votes there for the dems.

Now Clinton is banking on winning Texas and Ohio to turn the campaign around. I'm not sure how/if that will happen. I think she will win texas. Clinton does well with Latino Voters, and there is alot of racism down there.

Can Obama win? he could, at this point im rooting for him just from the underdog point of view. Plus i have 50.00 with him at like +1400 odds.

Our current foreign policy is not the best, its sad to say the least. President Bush couldn't negotiate for anything without saying I'll just invade you. Bush Jr is a joke and his presidency will be about starting a war based on incorrect evidence? What else has he done? He's run the country into a recession. Debate it all you want its already here, GM lost 36b btw, as the auto industry goes, so does the countries economy according to an old saying.

Bush bashing is a fun hobby I guess, but the Congress controls trade policies and controls the legislative process that created a n environment in this country where companies are better off exporting our jobs. Congress could change that pretty easily.

Exactly how did the President run the country into a recession? Again, Congress controls the law making ability to correct some of the excesses that led to the recession. They did nothing as usual.

Yes, Bush the lesser got us into a war we shouldn't be in. Bush the elder set the stage for this mess. It all goes back to Iraq invading Kuwait because the Kuwaitis were stealing Iraq's oil by slant drilling into the Iraqi oil fields. The UN could have stopped the Kuwaitis but did nothing except pass a few meaningless resolutions. The Iraqis then told the US ambassador that they planned to stop the Kuwaitis stealing their oil by military intervention. The US reply was "that is a regional issue", which gave the Iraqis the green light. Why did we go to war over Kuwait in the first place? What do we care?

The Clintonistas kept the economic sanctions and the no fly zone in place after the war for the liberation of Kuwait was over. So, they continued the failed policy of Bush the Elder.

Our current foreign policy is simply an extension of the Kissinger doctrine and the cold war. "Project power into areas deemed to be in the interests of the US by any means necessary".

Why are we still in NATO? The purpose of NATO was to defend Europe against the USSR. The USSR is no more. We need to get out of NATO. Why are we in the middle east? We fought a war to liberate Kuwait, then we subjected the Iraqi people to years of economic sanctions and aerial bombing in a pseudo war called "the no fly zone", then we invaded Iraq in order to project power into the middle east because the Iranians are trying to switch the currency that oil is traded in from the dollar to the euro.

Now the arm chair strategists will quote Bush the Lesser on how we are fighting 'them' over there instead of over here. But consider this, the Taliban were defeated before the invasion of Afghanistan began. Several hundred special forces and CIA operatives allied with some local tribesmen made mincemeat out of the Taliban BEFORE the invasion started. There was no reason to occupy Afghanistan and lots of reasons not to do so. Now we are propping up a central government which is propped up by northern warlords some of whom are not even Afghani.

The best way to fight an insurgency is with a counter insurgency. Operation Phoenix in the Vietnam war was fought with a few thousand special forces, CIA operatives and tribal allies (the Montenyard and the Hmong). At the end of Operation Phoenix the Viet Cong was no longer a viable force.

The Iraqis have proven that they cannot form a central government. The Sunnis and the Kurds have proven that provincial governments can work. We have given the Iraqis 5 years to create a country. They refuse. Game over.

[pavyracer]

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round,
round and round.
The wheels on the bus go round and round, all through the town.

[Willie Bee]

Clinton does well with Latino Voters, and there is alot of racism down there.

It won't make a rat's rump of difference which one of the Democrats wins Texas, other than getting their convention delegates. When the election comes this November, all of the electoral votes will go to the GOP candidate. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a racist Texican.

[Sportsgirl]

It won't make a rat's rump of difference which one of the Democrats wins Texas, other than getting their convention delegates. When the election comes this November, all of the electoral votes will go to the GOP candidate. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a racist Texican.

It will work that same way in North Carolina, Willie. This state always goes to the GOP.
In fact, the presidency may go GOP simply because the Dems are so evenly divided between Barack and Hilary that once one of them gets the nom, the other people won't vote at all. It's a love 'em or hate 'em deal with the dems this year. John Edwards is who they should have been pushing, imo.

[jackpot269]

The choices we have for out next president is very scary

Yea so was the case last time too!!!!!!!!!!1

[treece]

I wish we had Bill Clinton to run again. Dumb 2 term rule should be scrapped.

[Sportsgirl]

I think Barack and hilary are actually the same person. It's conspiracy, I tell you!

[curious]

I wish people would stop quoting tacomax.

I wish SBR would ban that piece of garbage tacomax.

[ritehook]

I think Tacomax was referencing his good friend imgv when he was rehashing this statement. Fortunately you appear to be politically cognizant enough that Tacomax does not need to point out your shortcomings, whereas it is often necessary with others.

Just make sure you watch your spelling. Tacomax ran off a "well-respected", "self-proclaimed", "English major" who used to make a lot of picks (but never bet the under).

Oh, OK. Didn't think it was me in that quote, but nonetheless was just about to check myself into a long-term managed care facility when your post came in.

And, of corse, I ahwayz wach my speling

[Bullajami]

The Iraqis have proven that they cannot form a central government. The Sunnis and the Kurds have proven that provincial governments can work.

It took the Soviet Union 69 years to prove their government did not work.

We have given the Iraqis 5 years to create a country. They refuse. Game over.

The Articles of Confederation were written in 1777 and replaced by the Constitution in 1788. We gave ourselves 11 years to make a country. Happily, the instant gratification generation was not officiating back then.

[McBa1n]

Thanks, Taco, for keeping the US protected. I wish I had the cash to snag that magic rock.

[ritehook]

I think if the Cintonistas get the ticket by a backroom "deal" Obama and his supporters will start a 3rd party campaign.

I'm not sure this would happen (tho they'd be some rumblings about it) but I would like to see it come down.

Also like to see the super-rich mayor of New York City make an independent run.

The two parties we have now are all too often like "one party."
Some say a multi-party country has too many inefficiencies, and is often paralyzed.

My reply: Really!!! Promise??

[mrmark]

Boys! Ms Clinton will win this election! Oprah will lose!!!!!!!!

[mofome]

no point, just a thumbs down. how enlightening.

[slacker00]

I agree with tacomax. Buy as much Republican at +166 as you can.

[Cannon]

Put a fork in her she is done. What a bitch.

[tacomax]

Thanks, Taco, for keeping the US protected. I wish I had the cash to snag that magic rock.

You seem like a decent guy - if you're short at the moment, we can come up with a payment plan to suit me. I mean to suit us.

[moses millsap]

Tacomax doesn't **** around when it comes to the Magic Beans. He and they are the real deal.

[isetcap]

The Magic Beans are powerful.

[Willie Bee]

no point, just a thumbs down. how enlightening.

Believe TF was giving a thumb's down to the post that they quoted, mofo.

Taco, are these magic beans of the green, pinto, butter or navy variety?

[McBa1n]

You seem like a decent guy - if you're short at the moment, we can come up with a payment plan to suit me. I mean to suit us.

Ok - for the rock, I'll give you one pudding pop and an extra value meal to be named later. *nod*