Is The USA Ready For A Black President?

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Is The USA Ready For A Black President?
    I think not yet
  • capitalist pig
    SBR MVP
    • 01-25-07
    • 4998

    #2
    I think not yet also.

    later
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #3
      Bill Clinton was the first Black President.
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      • curious
        Restricted User
        • 07-20-07
        • 9093

        #4
        Al Sharpton says that Obama is not black

        Yes, but according to the professional blacks like Al Sharpton and the Right Reverend Jackson, Mr. Obama is not "legitimately" black. I have no idea what that means. But they are the experts.
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        • Timetopay
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-27-07
          • 781

          #5
          He aint black. Ben Wallace is black
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82839

            #6
            Originally posted by curious
            Yes, but according to the professional blacks like Al Sharpton and the Right Reverend Jackson, Mr. Obama is not "legitimately" black. I have no idea what that means. But they are the experts.
            He is black but he is not an African-American like them. His father or his ancestors were never slaves and this is what makes him different and that's why republicans are scared of him to death because they know McCain has no chance against him.
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            • Jamie_UK
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-07
              • 1103

              #7
              what difference does the colour of his skin make?
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              • curious
                Restricted User
                • 07-20-07
                • 9093

                #8
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                He is black but he is not an African-American like them. His father or his ancestors were never slaves and this is what makes him different and that's why republicans are scared of him to death because they know McCain has no chance against him.
                Are you saying that is what Sharpton and Jackson are talking about when they say Obama is not a "legitimate" black person? But how do Sharpton and Jackson know if they are descended from slaves or not? And what does that have to do with anything anyway? A person's value system is shaped by many factors having to do with things that happen in the here and now, not what their ancestors did 200 years ago.

                I heard a representative of Sharpton try to explain this and she was mostly talking about the urban ghetto black experience and saying that Obama was not from that "culture". I thought this was preposterous because the urban ghetto is not the experience of the minority. I also think it is a stretch to call the urban ghetto a "culture".

                She also said that Obama did not share in the "struggle". I guess she was talking about the civil rights struggle. If by this she means that Obama did not march with Dr. King, that would apply to the vast majority of people in this country. If by that she meant that he has not been discriminated against and so shared in the "struggle" that way, how could she possibly know that?
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                • The Seer
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-29-07
                  • 10641

                  #9
                  Originally posted by curious
                  Are you saying that is what Sharpton and Jackson are talking about when they say Obama is not a "legitimate" black person? But how do Sharpton and Jackson know if they are descended from slaves or not? And what does that have to do with anything anyway? A person's value system is shaped by many factors having to do with things that happen in the here and now, not what their ancestors did 200 years ago.

                  I heard a representative of Sharpton try to explain this and she was mostly talking about the urban ghetto black experience and saying that Obama was not from that "culture". I thought this was preposterous because the urban ghetto is not the experience of the minority. I also think it is a stretch to call the urban ghetto a "culture".

                  She also said that Obama did not share in the "struggle". I guess she was talking about the civil rights struggle. If by this she means that Obama did not march with Dr. King, that would apply to the vast majority of people in this country. If by that she meant that he has not been discriminated against and so shared in the "struggle" that way, how could she possibly know that?
                  I think she meant the struggle of getting out of and living in the ghetto. A black friend of mine said that most blacks don't like Sharpton and Jackson. He said they are self appointed reps of blacks but that blacks don't want the representing them or at least the ones with any sense. Blacks will vote skin color.
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                  • Tchocky
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-14-06
                    • 2371

                    #10
                    If Obama can't win the Democratic nomination, then this country may never be ready for a black president.
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                    • WileOut
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-04-07
                      • 3844

                      #11
                      In 50 years, whites will be the minority. So enjoy your white presidents now. In 100 years there will never be anymore white presidents.
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                      • buztah
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-23-07
                        • 7470

                        #12
                        The US is definitely ready. Won't happen this time though.
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                        • brock
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-07-08
                          • 8279

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                          what difference does the colour of his skin make?
                          Does not matter to me either
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                          • gridiron guru
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 02-21-07
                            • 255

                            #14
                            Obama in November

                            Well well well, if it isnt the age old question "Are we ready for a Black President" and my answer to the SBR family is of course we are. American is stuggling right now and what better person to have the job as president with a stuggling country than someone who knows what it means to struggle...A BLACK MAN!!!

                            He sees the economy struggling, teachers only want to teach to get a pay check, Jobs are dropping out of the US to go overseas, Families cant eat because they dont make enough money, economic and social racism, African Americans (including myself) have been through this and is still going through this to this day so yes he is the man for the job

                            Companies trade in their white sheets and hoods for business suits and briefcases and call themselves CEO's leaving blacks and latinos struggling to find decent work.

                            Kids cant get the proper education because teachers arent properly fit to educate today's children or just dont give a ****, textbooks are out of date, schools are closing because they dont have the funds to operate.

                            Companies rather hire illegals who cant speak english and pay them less instead of hiring Americans who can do the job, Obama sees all this.

                            Families with loved ones overseas at a war (which Senator Clinton voted in favor for) where we really dont know why they are over there. Being deployed 4,5,6 times out of the year. FOR WHAT?

                            Struggle is something Senator Clinton, Senator McClain, Romney, Huckabee, Edwards no nothing about. But Senator Obama, from the south side of Chicago can relate to the country problems

                            OBAMA IN NOVEMBER

                            You may now return to your regularly scheduled program already in progress.......
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                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82839

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WileOut
                              In 50 years, whites will be the minority. So enjoy your white presidents now. In 100 years there will never be anymore white presidents.
                              I disagree. In 100 years the president will be a white man fluent in Spanish.
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                              • The HG
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-01-06
                                • 3566

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Timetopay
                                He aint black. Ben Wallace is black

                                Yes, another black would be Shawn Kemp for instance. Shaquille O'Neal is black. RASHEED WALLACE, now there's a black for you. Let me think, there are many many others. Let me see. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, remember that guy? He's definitely black. Allan Iverson. Jon Amaechi? NOT black, not even close, really.

                                Oh yeah, LATRELL SPREWELL, one of the greatest blacks of all time. Of course Julius Erving. No but Latrell Sprewell, perhaps the apotheosis of black. Is America ready for a Sprewell/Wallace tandem in the White House? NO WAY. But it would be a truly truly awesome country if we could have that. It would cure most cases of depression in the US instantly.
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                                • buztah
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-23-07
                                  • 7470

                                  #17
                                  I'd like to see Rasheed Wallace give it a go too, HG. Would definitely bring some personality to the White House.
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                                  • robzilla
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-25-07
                                    • 3556

                                    #18
                                    Chris Rock is black.... I'm not sure Obama is blackity black.
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                                    • DrunkenLullaby
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-30-07
                                      • 1631

                                      #19
                                      Regarding the title of this thread...

                                      If asked 7.5 yrs ago "Is the US ready for a retarded president?", how many of us would have said yes?
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                                      • mofome
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-19-07
                                        • 13003

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby
                                        Regarding the title of this thread...

                                        If asked 7.5 yrs ago "Is the US ready for a retarded president?", how many of us would have said yes?







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                                        • The HG
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-01-06
                                          • 3566

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby
                                          Regarding the title of this thread...

                                          If asked 7.5 yrs ago "Is the US ready for a retarded president?", how many of us would have said yes?
                                          Excellent point. Still, there have been many more retarded candidates than black candidates, so even though most of us would have said "no", the undercurrent of acceptability for it was, I think, more present than such an undercurrent for a black President is today.


                                          Another thing to think about is, imagine if Bush's brain were in Obama's head, and the words Bush says came out of Obama's mouth. Can you imagine?? Obama wouldn't be able to get away with for 2 minutes what Bush has gotten away with for a decade.
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                                          • The Seer
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-29-07
                                            • 10641

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gridiron guru
                                            Well well well, if it isnt the age old question "Are we ready for a Black President" and my answer to the SBR family is of course we are. American is stuggling right now and what better person to have the job as president with a stuggling country than someone who knows what it means to struggle...A BLACK MAN!!! .......
                                            I was waiting for one of these type posts.
                                            teachers only want to teach to get a pay check, Jobs are dropping out of the US to go overseas, Families cant eat because they dont make enough money, economic and social racism, African Americans (including myself) have been through this and is still going through this to this day so yes he is the man for the job
                                            Really, how long have you been in the education field? Funny, most all of the teachers I know and work with not only care about teaching, they do plenty and put in alot of time that they don't get paid for. If they can't eat, then they need to get an extra job, I've done it. Get off of your LAZY ASS and work for a change instead of drawing a check.
                                            Companies trade in their white sheets and hoods for business suits and briefcases and call themselves CEO's leaving blacks and latinos struggling to find decent work.
                                            If you are black or latino you can get a free education just because of your skin color so don't give us this bullshit excuse.

                                            Kids cant get the proper education because teachers arent properly fit to educate today's children or just dont give a ****, textbooks are out of date, schools are closing because they dont have the funds to operate.
                                            How about parents parenting their kids. School is a babysitting facility for parents nowadays. If parents taught their kids how to act, we could spend more time teaching them than figuring out how to discipline them.

                                            Companies rather hire illegals who cant speak english and pay them less instead of hiring Americans who can do the job, Obama sees all this.
                                            Many americans are too lazy to work. They'd rather blame someone else for them not having money.

                                            Struggle is something Senator Clinton, Senator McClain, Romney, Huckabee, Edwards no nothing about. But Senator Obama, from the south side of Chicago can relate to the country problems
                                            .......
                                            What would Obama know about struggle? He never grew up "struggling".

                                            This is a typical post of blacks blaming everything on whites or someone else instead of taking care of business themselves. Minorities have more opportunities than whites nowdays so your comments are some of the most racist idiotic statements I've seen on this board yet.
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                                            • mofome
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-19-07
                                              • 13003

                                              #23
                                              I just read the teachers comment because Seer quoted it. My pops is a Teacher and he takes tremendous pride in what he does. it doesn't get any worse than his childhood and where he grew up, but he struggled to get what hes got and now he takes great pride in teaching elem school kids. he gets letters from kids all the time about how much they appreciate him. kids come back from after 5+ years to say hello or give him letters. a girl he used to teach actually works at a local restaurant, by chance, this is a girl he happened to take some school work and a christmas present when she got sick and really had no support from her house. he goes to hid kids soccer, baseball, and basketball games almost every weekend. so, uh, what?
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                                              • DrunkenLullaby
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-30-07
                                                • 1631

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Seer
                                                Iso your comments are some of the most racist idiotic statements I've seen on this board yet.
                                                True...and that's REALLY scary given the ignorant bile that flows freely around here.

                                                Actually, as soon as I saw a big, red "Anti-Pinnacle" in his post I didn't bother to read it.
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                                                • RageWizard
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-01-06
                                                  • 3008

                                                  #25
                                                  Obama has a better shot than Hillary if McCain is the opponent. The people on the right hate Hillary so much that the ones that don't like McCain will stay with the party. If Obama is the nominee, he can kiss the south good by but the Northeast and west will pull through for him. If he picks up a couple of mis western states will some voting electorate points he is in.
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                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                    • 52143

                                                    #26
                                                    The jury is still out.
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