I'll pay anyone $100 if you can lose at SBR blackjack!!

**HenPrivilege** · 10-12-10, 02:24 PM

Everyone is playing BJ now

$100 on the table

**rake922** · 10-12-10, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Thanks Sam. Yes, lose 10 hands in a row playing correctly and get $100 no roll over cash. 1st 10

So if I lose 9 of 10..... I get nothing.. awesome

**Boscoe** · 10-12-10, 02:27 PM

So.... surrender doesn't count? Okay... I kept playing and lost one more. How about this...

**Fishhead** · 10-12-10, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by HenPrivilege

Good job

on losing

The casino is rigged!!!

Holy crap!

**landers781** · 10-12-10, 02:30 PM

interesting

I can see why a surrender shouldnt count as a loss but it shouldnt count as a win either

**SBR_John** · 10-12-10, 02:31 PM

I'll give you the $100 because I did not make it clear enough. But you can't surrender and lose 10 in a row. BS says surrender if allowed....for this special you have to lose 10 in a row so do not surrender because a surrender is not allowed. Send me an account number.

Edit; Good point Landers. A surrender will not count as either a win or a loss.

**landers781** · 10-12-10, 02:31 PM

Idunno how you would count a surrender. It isnt a push. What would you call it, you still are losing chips

**landers781** · 10-12-10, 02:31 PM

Ok thanks for clearing that up john

**HenPrivilege** · 10-12-10, 02:32 PM

The verdict on this is interesting.. especially with that 11th loss

**RonPaul2008** · 10-12-10, 02:32 PM

I lost 20 of 25 yesterday playing normal strategy...not good enough?

Funny too, because I won nearly every session with 10 base add 5 if win/back to 10 if lose.
Then I decided to try 25 add 10 and bam, lose like crazy. Coincidence?

I've learned my lesson, no more SBR Casino for me.

**yisman** · 10-12-10, 02:33 PM

Lost six in a row just now.

BTW, surrender should count because that's included in perfect strategy.

**SBR_John** · 10-12-10, 02:33 PM

Obviously there are going to be winners that I will pay. It's just math that at times you will lose 10 hands in a row. Happens every second in Vegas. So no gimmick here just a few rules.

10 point per hand min
Must play perfect basic strategy(I will post)
Surrenders will not count as a win or a loss....
Winners:
Post hand history here
PM me a aportsbook account at any book rated B+ or higher.
Offer limited to first ten.
Splits and doubles count as 1 hand

Yes good idea on surrenders...they will not count as a win or a loss

**Fishhead** · 10-12-10, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by landers781

Idunno how you would count a surrender. It isnt a push. What would you call it, you still are losing chips

It's a losing hand, clear cut.

**Boscoe** · 10-12-10, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

I'll give you the $100 because I did not make it clear enough. But you can't surrender and lose 10 in a row. BS says surrender if allowed....for this special you have to lose 10 in a row so do not surrender because a surrender is not allowed. Send me an account number.

Thanks John....that's generous of you.

**landers781** · 10-12-10, 02:34 PM

Im sure anyone who has played on that casino software knows some tricks on how to trigger the losing hands

I can almost pinpoint when the losing streak is about to hit

**blackbeSSt** · 10-12-10, 02:34 PM

john if i lose 10 in a row with 1 point each can i get $10?

**Fishhead** · 10-12-10, 02:38 PM

A surrender playing perfect strategy should be graded as a losing hand.......not a push.

It is what it is.......a losing hand playing perfect strategy.

**frostno98** · 10-12-10, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Obviously there are going to be winners that I will pay. It's just math that at times you will lose 10 hands in a row. Happens every second in Vegas. So no gimmick here just a few rules.

It's not common for me to lose 10 hands in a row, playing on a table if it's 4 people or more. But playing one on one verses the deal is another story. Rarely found any success.

It's just that playing one on one is already hard in real life, imagine how hard it is to beat the online format that has a rigged element to it(10-20% favoring dealer).

**HenPrivilege** · 10-12-10, 02:40 PM

Even if a surrender is essentially no action on this special.. Boscoe still got 10 in a row

**RudyRuetigger** · 10-12-10, 02:41 PM

I'm still waiting for MonkeyFocker's numbers

**Fishhead** · 10-12-10, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

It's not common for me to lose 10 hands in a row, playing on a table if it's 4 people or more. But playing one on one verses the deal is another story. Rarely found any success.

It's just that playing one on one is already hard in real life, imagine how hard it is to beat the online format that has a rigged element to it(10-20% favoring dealer).

What is the rigged element?

**SBR_John** · 10-12-10, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by HenPrivilege

Even if a surrender is essentially no action on this special.. Boscoe still got 10 in a row

Correct. He is a winner.

**goofyre** · 10-12-10, 02:46 PM

I went 1-8-1. Not my game.

**RonPaul2008** · 10-12-10, 02:48 PM

Surrendering 16 with dealer showing face card or ace is perfect strategy...should count as a loss.

**SBR_John** · 10-12-10, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by RonPaul2008

Surrendering 16 with dealer showing face card or ace is perfect strategy...should count as a loss.

Its actually a half loss. For this special I'm going to pay the guy who had a surrender but consider any future surrenders no action. That is consistant with the spirit of the special.

**frostno98** · 10-12-10, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

What is the rigged element?

The rigged element is the dealer barely winning with frequency. Say you got 17, he manages to flop 4 cards and he still gets 18 to beat you.

I seen countless time where I got 16, 17, 18 and the online dealer gets enough just to beat you. I mean this sh1t happens in succession. When I lose live, it's usually because the Dealer hits 20 or 21. Me staying on a 16, 17, or 18 and hoping for a bust usually works against a live dealer, when their showing a small card. That strategy doesn't work in any online sportsbook casino I have played at so far.

**Fishhead** · 10-12-10, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

The rigged element is the dealer barely winning with frequency. Say you got 17, he manages to flop 4 cards and he still gets 18 to beat you.

I seen countless time where I got 16, 17, 18 and the online dealer gets enough just to beat you. I mean this sh1t happens in succession. When I lose live, it's usually because the Dealer hits 20 or 21. Me staying on a 16, 17, or 18 and hoping for a bust usually works against a live dealer, when their showing a small card. That strategy doesn't work in any online sportsbook casino I have played at so far.

Are you saying this is the case with the SBR CASINO?

Tell SBRJOHN this.........or hopefully he has read this post you just made and he can comment.

**Ian** · 10-12-10, 03:17 PM

If my math is correct the odds of losing 10 out of 10 hands is a little less than .1%. Of course, if you play more than 10 hands your chance of losing 10 in a row will go up, but it's still a longshot.

**SBR_John** · 10-12-10, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Are you saying this is the case with the SBR CASINO?

Tell SBRJOHN this.........or hopefully he has read this post you just made and he can comment.

The thing about a random number generator(RNG), used to deal blackjack, over a large sample it will pull every card equally. It could be more random than live play because live play uses a machine or real person to shuffle. They would need to shuffle for a very long time to match the randomness of computerized RNG's.

Personally, I don't think there is any difference at all in blackjack no matter dealt by RNG or live dealer. Online BJ is just dealt much faster. In a live setting you may get off your stool if you get 5 bad beats in a row but online guys just keep on trucking cold table or not.

**dinaro7** · 10-12-10, 03:29 PM

thats hard to do

**Goat Milk** · 10-12-10, 03:31 PM

wow you guys are clueless: SBR John is begging you guys to do this because what are the chances you lose 10 straight hands. The incentive is $100 and for him getting back hundreds/thousands of points for SBR in the casino within a few minutes.

**yisman** · 10-12-10, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

wow you guys are clueless: SBR John is begging you guys to do this because what are the chances you lose 10 straight hands. The incentive is $100 and for him getting back hundreds/thousands of points for SBR in the casino within a few minutes.

Goat, what you said has been said several times already.

**MonkeyF0cker** · 10-12-10, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

So you result to name calling to strengthen your stance? Fukkin dipshit. Boy that helped me wonder where you got your numbers, didnt it?

Just show me the website you got your numbers, as I highly doubt you remember 6 digits past 0 for the hell of it.

I resort to name calling when people are so fukking dense that they try to argue with me when they are clearly wrong. I coded my own BJ simulator. That's where the numbers come from. Good enough for you? When you can comprehend that a PUSH (not a tie) is not a loss, then maybe we can begin to have a discussion. Until then, feel free to carry on with your defensiveness and ignorance so that I might be able to further embarrass you.

**pavyracer** · 10-12-10, 03:55 PM

This experiment looks good for the house. Keep trying until all your points are transferred to the house. If someone wants to buy some beachfront property at the Georgia Mountains PM me and I'll hook you up.

**SBR_John** · 10-12-10, 04:01 PM

We have had a bunch of guys playing today. So far more win streaks than loss streaks.

Still 9 more $100 bills to give out and we will. The game is fair and I'm glad a lot of folks checked it out.