Worst choke of all time?

Poker_Beast · 02-03-08, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by ChuteBoxe

What does everyone think? The cheating scenario, backed up by an 18-0 season, just to choke when it counted the most. The Super Bowl.

Definately! Could not have happened to a better team.

tullamore · 02-03-08, 11:34 PM

To me the AFC Championship game against the Colts was a bigger choke. But I interupt choking as having a large lead and then losing the game or the seriers. The Pats never had a large lead in this Super Bowl.

Wrigley · 02-03-08, 11:36 PM

I dont think they were the biggest point spread favorite ever to lose a SB.

SBR Lou · 02-03-08, 11:36 PM

that's what happens when your QB is sacked 5 times, knocked down 10+ times, and never is allowed any comfort. offensive line got outplayed, the defense did their job, they allowed 17 points, obviously they couldnt seal the deal at the end but what more could they have done. the pats offense could not get anything going because of the lackluster performance by their offensive line, i know its a team game but those guys on the offensive line really let Tom down.

its surprising to hear people think brady choked, he did everything like he normally does, only his protection wasnt there, anytime he had Moss wide open he was hit as he was throwing or pressured into an off tempo throw. when he had time, he led them to points.

louisvillekid · 02-03-08, 11:37 PM

i don't think so, the Bills consecutive losses were a big choke, and many others.....

rugbybdyb · 02-03-08, 11:38 PM

I dont think the biggest choke ever, I still have to give that to Mickleson last year

charlie64 · 02-03-08, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by crazyl

that's what happens when your QB is sacked 5 times, knocked down 10+ times, and never is allowed any comfort. offensive line got outplayed, the defense did their job, they allowed 17 points, obviously they couldnt seal the deal at the end but what more could they have done. the pats offense could not get anything going because of the lackluster performance by their offensive line, i know its a team game but those guys on the offensive line really let Tom down.

its surprising to hear people think brady choked, he did everything like he normally does, only his protection wasnt there, anytime he had Moss wide open he was hit as he was throwing or pressured into an off tempo throw. when he had time, he led them to points.

This is got nothing to do with what you said.What I want to know is who is that rubbing all that soap on her titties

rugbybdyb · 02-03-08, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Wrigley

I dont think they were the biggest point spread favorite ever to lose a SB.

I think they talked about that today and said that superbowl three was the biggest upset in superbowl history and I think its was the jets and the colts but I could be wrong on that.

rugbybdyb · 02-03-08, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by charlie64

This is got nothing to do with what you said.What I want to know is who is that rubbing all that soap on her titties

I dont think its soap, looks like shaving cream to me.....

goldengoat · 02-03-08, 11:44 PM

oilers choke to bills

ravens choking it away to patriots 2007 worse than this

this SB was not much of a choke imo

Wrigley · 02-03-08, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by rugbybdyb

I dont think the biggest choke ever, I still have to give that to Mickleson last year

Other golfers Greg Norman blowing a 6 shot lead going in to the final round of the masters years ago

or the Fenchmen blowing a 4 shot lead in the british open going in to the last hole

diogee · 02-03-08, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Wrigley

I dont think they were the biggest point spread favorite ever to lose a SB.

I think the largest fav to lose was the Rams -14 to the Pats.

tullamore · 02-03-08, 11:45 PM

The biggest choke ever has to be the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS.

Wrigley · 02-03-08, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by goldengoat

oilers choke to bills

ravens choking it away to patriots 2007 worse than this

this SB was not much of a choke imo

Giants defense was the reason the better team won today

diogee · 02-03-08, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by rugbybdyb

I think they talked about that today and said that superbowl three was the biggest upset in superbowl history and I think its was the jets and the colts but I could be wrong on that.

Second thought I think you are correct I think the line was 16

rugbybdyb · 02-03-08, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by rugbybdyb

I think they talked about that today and said that superbowl three was the biggest upset in superbowl history and I think its was the jets and the colts but I could be wrong on that.

I think the colts were favored by like 17 points and lost as well

ChuteBoxe · 02-03-08, 11:56 PM

I can see how you can say another game was worse. But, how could anyone say the Patriots didn't really choke at all in this spot? They beat the Dolphins record. Went 18-0! 1 Game away from the perfect season. No team ever went 19-0! Time to go into the NFL history books! What do they do? They get cocky and get outplayed in the superbowl. Classic! That right there, in my opinion, is the 100% definition of a choke.

rugbybdyb · 02-04-08, 12:09 AM

I just dont think it was as much of a choke....I just think the Giants showed up to play and would not let the pats off the mat....I can see where it would be rated as a choke I just dont think it was that bad........But I see you working.

isetcap · 02-04-08, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by crazyl

its surprising to hear people think brady choked, he did everything like he normally does, only his protection wasnt there, anytime he had Moss wide open he was hit as he was throwing or pressured into an off tempo throw. when he had time, he led them to points.

No, he did not do everything like he normally does. He had at least 5 passes that could only be defined as grossly inaccurate even when he had plenty of time to throw, and he played with seemingly zero passion until the 4th quarter rolled around. I'm not sure if it had something to do with his health, but he was lackluster to say the least.

golfguy112233 · 02-04-08, 02:46 AM

they lost the game...they were not up many points to "choke"

rjt721 · 02-04-08, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by tullamore

The biggest choke ever has to be the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS.

Refresh my memory - what exactly happened in that series?

Tough to call the Patriots' performance in this Super Bowl the biggest choke ever when the Giants outplayed them and deserved to win. Sure, Brady missed a few throws he regularly makes, Samuel missed an INT on the Giants' last possession that would have sealed the win, and if they wrapped up Eli on the miraculous Tyree completion they would have won, but the Giants simply played better. NE couldn't stop NYG's pass rush most of the game, and the Pats were the beneficiary of a fluke INT in the 2Q that would have resulted in at least a FG (maybe a TD if Smith held on and the drive continued). I think this was more a result of what the Giants did do, not what the Patriots failed to do, which is why I certainly wouldn't categorize this as a "choke."

SBR Lou · 02-04-08, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by isetcap

No, he did not do everything like he normally does. He had at least 5 passes that could only be defined as grossly inaccurate even when he had plenty of time to throw, and he played with seemingly zero passion until the 4th quarter rolled around. I'm not sure if it had something to do with his health, but he was lackluster to say the least.

We saw a different game. His offensive line was dominated, he was not able to get into a rhythm because he was never able to get a clean release. The few instances which he was able to scan the field relatively untouched his pressure failed at the very last second and if you noticed one play he even under-threw a wide open Moss by about eight yards. that has nothing to do with him making a bad play, his throwing motion was interrupted and he could not get clean releases. The second TD drive his protection was slightly better but he was also releasing the ball a lot quicker, the way I saw it, if someone is to blame it was the lackluster offensive line and the inability of Josh McDaniels to adjust in his play selection.

20Four7 · 02-04-08, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by louisvillekid

i don't think so, the Bills consecutive losses were a big choke, and many others.....

Speaking of the bills, wasn't there a game against Houston? My memory is vague but I recall a team that shouldn't have lost forgetting to show up for the 2nd half and losing. Jan 3, 1993 I believe. Unfortunately they will be remembered for your quote louisvillekid and not this comeback of all time. I think it was 35 to 3 houston at the half.

And of course who can forget the music city miracle between the bills and tennesee.

Wow choke and Buffalo seem to go hand in hand.

jjgold · 02-04-08, 06:55 AM

No choke

Giants kicked the crap out of them

hawk 5 · 02-04-08, 07:15 AM

I agree with JJ, The better team won.

Sportsgirl · 02-04-08, 08:36 AM

The Pats didn't choke in this game - the Giants clearly outplayed them. That's why "Any given Sunday" is a noted phrase. Great defense wins geat football games and that was displayed in this SB.

RageWizard · 02-04-08, 08:40 AM

No choking hear, they just got it handed to them.

The other teams that brought the heat to brady and had balls to cover the receivers one on one almost beat them too.

Poker_Beast · 02-05-08, 12:23 AM

Not the biggest spread but with the perfect season on the line and getting beat by the worst seeded team to ever go to the SB - definately.

Ha Ha cheating pricks!