I have so much to say about that game!!!

[Louisvillekid1]

that was bad, but the worst thing NE did was not challenge the early fumbled recovery. NE recovered and the man was down before Bradshaw came in and took the ball back. Huge mistake.

Was thinking the same thing at the time, but then realized Bradshaw had his arm in there, and did a great job pulling it out. Would not have been overturned.

[Louisvillekid1]

MO,

We'll just agree not to see eye to eye on this one. Its all good, it was a great game

[mofome]

Fumbling the ball after both knees and the ball hits the ground means nothing, the play is over. Also When A Samuel had a chance for pick (which was a very tough catch) was a miscomunication on the route, who knows who's fault that was. If he gets sacked on that one play, like he should have they lose this game.

well, sir, the ball switched hands and it wasnt intentional. that was Very close to a fumble, he did not have control of the ball for a point in that play, thats not good, nor is it up for debate. risky play that did not cost the giants in the end. the samual pick should have been grabbed and it wasn't. Eli made a poor decision, he was not settled when he threw it, and he got away with one. A few plays prior he lobbed a ball into coverage that, luckily for the giants, fell incomplete. I won on the Giants, im not biased in any way, im just detailing how the final drive unfolded. The stats will read as if it was clutch, the results suggest the same, but the circumstances were not dictated purely by skill. Luck was involved on more than one instance in that drive.

[mofome]

Was thinking the same thing at the time, but then realized Bradshaw had his arm in there, and did a great job pulling it out. Would not have been overturned.

The Pats had the ball laying on the ground, it wasnt as if possession at that point was 50/50. if your on the ground and you have the ball, no one can take it from you. as soon as contact is made, the play is dead.

we'll agree to disagree, thats fair enough. it was one of the best games ive seen in a while.

[5 star bomb]

Eli
Plax
Smith
Tyree
Coughlin
Boss
Spag( D-cord)
Webster
Strahan
Osi
Tuck
Mitchell
Giants confidence/heart

Welker
Moss
Samuel


Pats Gamplan
Brady's lack of poise
NE offensive line

Unbeliveable game, one of the best superbowls ever and one of the biggest upsets ever!

Eli Scrambling on that play when tyree caught the ball on his helmet on the winning drive!!!! UNREAL!!!!! That is up there with the catch, the Miraculus reception and the rest of the great SuperBowl Plays.

Let me just take this all in And ill come back to this thread with a recap!!!

Congrats to The giants!!!

Totally agree bro! Wow what a performance by the Giants overall... Eli played good and got the job done when it counted. Late 4th quarter he gets out of that sack and then tyree makes the catch of the year!! What a crazy game. I cant believe how much pressure they got on Brady either. Unbelievable, The GGGGGG MEN gave one of the best efforts I have ever seen in a superbowl

[Louisvillekid1]

well, sir, the ball switched hands and it wasnt intentional. that was Very close to a fumble, he did not have control of the ball for a point in that play, thats not good, nor is it up for debate. risky play that did not cost the giants in the end. the samual pick should have been grabbed and it wasn't. Eli made a poor decision, he was not settled when he threw it, and he got away with one. A few plays prior he lobbed a ball into coverage that, luckily for the giants, fell incomplete. I won on the Giants, im not biased in any way, im just detailing how the final drive unfolded. The stats will read as if it was clutch, the results suggest the same, but the circumstances were not dictated purely by skill. [B]Luck was involved on more than one instance in that drive.

So it was luck?

[mofome]

So it was luck?

certain plays were lucky, of course. the pats were lucky that the db fell down on their final td. stop trying to find something, read whats there and take it for what it is. ive listed some facts, nothing more.

[5 star bomb]

certain plays were lucky, of course. the pats were lucky that the db fell down on their final td. stop trying to find something, read whats there and take it for what it is. ive listed some facts, nothing more.

Eli getting out of that sack and Tyree making the catch of the year was luck? I would say it was an AMAZING play way before I would call it luck

[ChuteBoxe]

Gotta give the Pats credit here, and to whoever said it was more like the Pats lost the game, then the Giants really being the better team. I thought they were gonna choke back in week 15 against the Jets. Seriously. lol. So, if I was stupid enough to think the Jets were gonna get the Pats to choke. You have to believe I was stupid enough to think the Red-Hot Giants would make the cheaters choke. Been riding that moneyline the whole playoffs. This Patriots team came into this game a little too confident in my opinion, and I have to believe Tom Brady is defintely sore tonight. Spagnulo was amazing on top of it, hopefully the Giants can keep this guys as their defensive coordinator this season. Congrats to the Giants as Super Bowl champs, and what a way to end the 2008 season for me.

Before the Super Bowl: 33-21 (+53.02)
Final Stats: 34-21 (+85.02)

Sorta sad the season is over already, but really looking forward to baseball. Hope everyone else had a great year too.

[mofome]

Eli getting out of that sack and Tyree making the catch of the year was luck? I would say it was an AMAZING play way before I would call it luck

yes, but who called that play all luck? eli made an amazing play and gave his player a chance to make a catch. that was an amazing play by those guys. Eli gave him a chance, he made a play, thats that. Eli wasn't great in the final drive, but he got the job done. Eli made more mistakes on that drive than he had made in the rest of the game, but the pats didnt make plays and it cost them. Congrats to the gmen.

[Louisvillekid1]

Wow Chute congrats on the terriffic NFL season!

[mofome]

Gotta give the Pats credit here, and to whoever said it was more like the Pats lost the game, then the Giants really being the better team. I thought they were gonna choke back in week 15 against the Jets. Seriously. lol. So, if I was stupid enough to think the Jets were gonna get the Pats to choke. You have to believe I was stupid enough to think the Red-Hot Giants would make the cheaters choke. Been riding that moneyline the whole playoffs. This Patriots team came into this game a little too confident in my opinion, and I have to believe Tom Brady is defintely sore tonight. Spagnulo was amazing on top of it, hopefully the Giants can keep this guys as their defensive coordinator this season. Congrats to the Giants as Super Bowl champs, and what a way to end the 2008 season for me.

Before the Super Bowl: 33-21 (+53.02)
Final Stats: 34-21 (+85.02)

Sorta sad the season is over already, but really looking forward to baseball. Hope everyone else had a great year too.

great stuff CHUTE!

[Louisvillekid1]

5star,

Yea it was a great game dude, Giants really came to play today, as well as their unbelieable Postseason run.

[frostno98]

Eli getting out of that sack and Tyree making the catch of the year was luck? I would say it was an AMAZING play way before I would call it luck

Agreed that play was amazing, luck I guess can be opinionated in many ways. Luck in the NFL is probably anything that is improbable but probable by chance, like farve underhanding a TD pass to Donald driver while stumbling and not really knowing where he is.

[mofome]

Agreed that play was amazing, luck I guess can be opinionated in many ways. Luck in the NFL is probably anything that is improbable but probable by chance, like farve underhanding a TD pass to Donald driver while stumbling and not really knowing where he is.

that play was amazing, the thing is, there isn't a person here who suggested otherwise.

[5 star bomb]

that play was amazing, the thing is, there isn't a person here who suggested otherwise.

yeah i didnt read every post but to call this game luck is completely silly. Giants totally outplayed the Pats.

[mofome]

yeah i didnt read every post but to call this game luck is completely silly. Giants totally outplayed the Pats.

ok, well then you look around and find someone who said the giants got lucky and were out played. then maybe we can have a conversation thats not a 100% waste of time.

[twtb19]

Talk about good karma for playing your starters against them in a meaningless game to end the regular season.

I am surprised to not hear anyone mention the lack of quality commercials this year.

[Quebb Diesel]

How about BB going for 4th and 13 instead of kicking the 49 yard FG? Bit him in the ass a little, huh?

turning point of the game...at least punt the ball and pin them deep

[5 star bomb]

ok, well then you look around and find someone who said the giants got lucky and were out played. then maybe we can have a conversation thats not a 100% waste of time.

LOL, this convo is going no where Ill just shut up now

[babaoriley]

turning point of the game...at least punt the ball and pin them deep

Yep, definite turning point... It was BB's way of saying A) we don't respect you, B) We can score at will, and most importantly C) WE HAVE NO FAITH IN OUR KICKER...

If, by some stretch, this game would have come down to a FG opp to send it to OT, would anyone here have felt confident about the Gostkowski. FG attempt? Me neither.

[mofome]

LOL, this convo is going no where Ill just shut up now

the quote feature seems messed up. anyway, i said the giants were the better team. i picked the giants to cover. i said eli wasnt real sharp through out his final drive. he made a great play and tyree made one of the best catches of the year. eli got the job done in the end and played a good game. i dont see whats there to argue with, but thats just me.

[MoneySportsGuy]

I think Mofo is right here. He's just trying to say that NE really lost the game more than NYG won it. It took a series of spectacular plays and poor coaching by NE to give this to NYG.

Very frustrated myself with the effort that NE put into this game.

Alright I had enough of the oh the best team in history potentially blah blah they are destined and then something happens and its always the excuse that NE lost and NYG really didnt win it? That is such a B..S. excuse.

There are many factors involved in outcomes of games, but I really love how everybody jumps on the wagon for the popular team, when everything is clicking, and minute something goes wrong, the excuse is well they lost and if wasnt for a few NE mistakes and luck, Giants would lose. @$##@ that nobody gave Giants a chance even with Tampa Bay. Let alone going against Dallas, who the lost twice to in the season, then everybody thought, "Oh its Favre's year, Giants end tonight." Wrong again. Then going against team of possible greatest of all time/destiny and look what they did.

Yes, I realize you need alot of things, but Giants simply didnt get through all those games because of luck. They worked their asses off and they deserve every bit of it.

Some other reasons why they won : they studied game film and figured out what to do that any other team this year couldnt do vs the Pats.

They had luck

They never gave up

They were aware of the magnitude of not just a Superbowl game, but a game where their opponent had a chance to go in the history books and go 19-0. ouch 18-1 now

I will stop with the ranting, but to say NE lost game more then Giants won in my opinion is just not the full story at all. I can understand that rationale in certain aspects, but to make that general and not give credit to Giants isn't right.

[MoneySportsGuy]

yeah i didnt read every post but to call this game luck is completely silly. Giants totally outplayed the Pats.

right on 5 star!!

[MoneySportsGuy]

the quote feature seems messed up. anyway, i said the giants were the better team. i picked the giants to cover. i said eli wasnt real sharp through out his final drive. he made a great play and tyree made one of the best catches of the year. eli got the job done in the end and played a good game. i dont see whats there to argue with, but thats just me.

good job on picking Giants to cover mofo had them as well there and the Giants ML

[Louisvillekid1]

Well said MoneySportsGuy . . . Were on the same page again!

[Seattle Slew]

Belichick's passing on the FG was crazy. That Pats were 4th and 13 and doing nothing on offense. He makes the kick and they are up 10-3. Belichick said after the game he didn't want to give up field position. Stupid answer. The kick only would have cost them 7 more yards if he missed. Instead, you go on 4th and 13?

As for Manning, he played well, but was not all that great. The Giants defense was terrific.

I still don't think Manning will ever be called a great quarterback. Remember, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer played well in their Super Bowl wins because they had great defenses.

[isetcap]

I still don't think Manning will ever be called a great quarterback. Remember, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer played well in their Super Bowl wins because they had great defenses.

Defense was the MVP.

[hawk 5]

What do you think the 72 Dolphin players were doing after the game?

[20Four7]

How about BB going for 4th and 13 instead of kicking the 49 yard FG? Bit him in the ass a little, huh?

I agree he took the worst of 3 options there. I would have kicked the field goal and try for points if your going to give up field position. He obviously thought he was so much better than the Giants.


Belickick showed no class by walking off the field with 1 second left to go. He showed he has no respect for the game, his players or his opponents. I hope the NFL fines him large for that display. In the premier game of the year you don't do that shit.

[Sportsgirl]

I can't believe I'm saying this but Coughlin outcoached Belichick....big time

Eggzactly! That was quite surprising as I expected Belichick to pull his usually halftime antics and for the Patriots to come out in the second half much more motivated to play. Brady had a lack-luster day - but, give all due credit to great play from the Giants D - a defense that in my opinion should have collectively gotten the MVP.

Great, entertaining game and for once, I even watched the halftime show!

[RageWizard]

Your right people, Belicheat actually got out coached. Why didn't he go for the field goal in the third quarter? I tell you arongance that's why.

[Sportsgirl]

There is true arrogance - and perhaps after seeing what the Giants D was bring, a little desperation - to go for it on 4 and 13! Someone should kick his arse for that call.