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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #351
    Originally posted by BLACKIE
    As much as I try it's not in my nature. I put a lot of personal time and effort into our sponsorship of this forum and when I constantly get bashed by the same group of posters that have never actually deposited or played with their own money it pisses me off. You never see members complaining it's just the same group of floaters and freeloaders that have nothing better to do with their time. As far as the vig I'm hoping to give everyone a sneak peek of the exchange next week.

    This was a very fair response, something the NON-RW players should take note of......................
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    • katstale
      SBR MVP
      • 02-07-07
      • 3924

      #352
      Wasn't it Richard Pryor in one of the Superman movies who first figured this out? pure genius
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      • Cookie Monster
        SBR MVP
        • 12-05-08
        • 2251

        #353
        The problem with rounding fairly is that in no time the freeloaders will be abusing the rounding. Bet $5 at -110 to win $4.54 = $5, getting true +100 odds. And surely some of the nastiest complainers here will do it. In their view, if the book keeps the cents it is stealing, if they do they are smart. LOL
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        • Richkas
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-03-08
          • 19396

          #354
          Originally posted by BLACKIE
          So it's ok for sam to slam me on a personal level but I should bite my tounge? If some punk talked shit to you in a bar Richie what would you do?
          Since you put it that way, I see your point
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          • yisman
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #355
            Originally posted by RonPaul2008;68***33
            It's extremely simple. Bet to win instead of to risk. Problem solved.

            Will it not let you play a -115 to win $10? They do have the option to do by risk or win right?
            Again, it ruins money management to only be able to bet in certain increments.

            If it's a -115, that means you can only risk certain amounts, like $230.

            You can't risk cents, so you can't do 11.50 to win 10. You'd be doing 12 to win 10, the equivalent of -120.
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • WeinketoWarrick
              SBR MVP
              • 05-30-09
              • 1698

              #356
              One shot kid, that's one shot.
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              • rhymenocerous
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-27-10
                • 324

                #357
                Ahh, the old Superman III scam in effect. Works every time.
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                • Boscoe
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-08-10
                  • 2811

                  #358
                  "docent" has to be one of the most awesomely bad misspellings that i've ever seen.
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82532

                    #359
                    I'm pretty sure SBR will investigate and will give the proper grade to this book once the investigation is completed. I suggest keep records of all your bets with screenshots and submit to SBR for review. If it is found that players were withheld winnings due to rounding down they should be offered rebates.
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                    • Euphoria38
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-04-08
                      • 1188

                      #360
                      Wow they suck im never going there
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                      • Cookie Monster
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-05-08
                        • 2251

                        #361
                        Originally posted by yisman
                        Again, it ruins money management to only be able to bet in certain increments.

                        If it's a -115, that means you can only risk certain amounts, like $230.

                        You can't risk cents, so you can't do 11.50 to win 10. You'd be doing 12 to win 10, the equivalent of -120.
                        Yisman, I respect you a lot and see your point. But it is much less problem than you suggest. A -115 bet bet gets no rounding with a $23 bet or a multiple ($46, $69, etc). If you need more granularity, any 23 multiple + $15 would lose 4 cents ($15, $38, $61) and any 23 multiple + $7 would lose 9 cents ($7, $30, $53). So, in any amount you want to bet, there is a low loss within $4 dollars. If your money management is so precise that cannot take a difference of $4, it is too inflexible.

                        The only time that it may be important is when close to busting (and getting a rebate). In that case, you must bet it all in one bet. So I find a line that would not round too badly. I have never asked, but maybe they would give you the rebate if you go below $5 (the minimum bet), giving more flexibility.
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82532

                          #362
                          Originally posted by Cookie Monster
                          Yisman, I respect you a lot and see your point. But it is much less problem than you suggest. A -115 bet bet gets no rounding with a $23 bet or a multiple ($46, $69, etc). If you need more granularity, any 23 multiple + $15 would lose 4 cents ($15, $38, $61) and any 23 multiple + $7 would lose 9 cents ($7, $30, $53). So, in any amount you want to bet, there is a low loss within $4 dollars. If your money management is so precise that cannot take a difference of $4, it is too inflexible.

                          The only time that it may be important is when close to busting (and getting a rebate). In that case, you must bet it all in one bet. So I find a line that would not round too badly. I have never asked, but maybe they would give you the rebate if you go below $5 (the minimum bet), giving more flexibility.
                          It might be just change but change adds up. This is the same as going to the store and not getting change back. Maybe 27 cents change doesn't mean much for you but I give all my change to my kids every day and they put them in their piggy bank and once every couple months we open it up and they get to choose to buy their favorite toy.
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                          • 22dsnyd22
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-26-09
                            • 386

                            #363
                            Originally posted by BLACKIE
                            So it's ok for sam to slam me on a personal level but I should bite my tounge? If some punk talked shit to you in a bar Richie what would you do?
                            obviously. your supposed to be a professional. Unless you put yourself on the same level as Sam. Why are you blogging so much. Get A rep to do it. You seem like a child on a rant. And after all these posts, really all you said was... its the software and sam is poor. Go back to work and quit blogging.
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                            • prop
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-04-07
                              • 1073

                              #364
                              Originally posted by BLACKIE
                              As much as I try it's not in my nature. I put a lot of personal time and effort into our sponsorship of this forum and when I constantly get bashed by the same group of posters that have never actually deposited or played with their own money it pisses me off. You never see members complaining it's just the same group of floaters and freeloaders that have nothing better to do with their time. As far as the vig I'm hoping to give everyone a sneak peek of the exchange next week.
                              Once again I'll say: "I'm not playing on your dime".
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                              • SoCalFisher
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-22-09
                                • 769

                                #365
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                The rounding has always been there, Bookmaker did if for at least 5 years or so as well as many other books and only way to cure it is changing software which is not easy I bet the right amounts to avoid the rounding so no issue
                                .....the right amount, too funny.
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #366
                                  One thing with did learn here...

                                  We know how Blackie truly feel about SBRers who participate in his contests and who are reg daily posters


                                  BTW--- Sam Odom never enters forum contests w/books
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                                  • 22dsnyd22
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-26-09
                                    • 386

                                    #367
                                    I see both sides but id have to agree. Why have stupid Black contest at all if this how you feel. Why lower your limits to 50 if this is how you feel. Lots of ppl like me, like to try out sportsbooks with contests and Freeplays before i make a big deposit. just to get a feel for reduced juice days and when the lines come out etc.
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                                    • sharpcat
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 12-19-09
                                      • 4516

                                      #368
                                      Should change their name to refundwager. Lose your account balance and we will refund all of the money we stole from you.
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                                      • BigDaddy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-01-06
                                        • 8378

                                        #369
                                        SBR can you file a sportsbook complaint for $2.53

                                        I am not going to let Blackie stiff me.


                                        If i win the case i don't want the money i just want justice to be served.



                                        please let me know and i will submit the complaint.


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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388189

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                          As much as I try it's not in my nature. I put a lot of personal time and effort into our sponsorship of this forum and when I constantly get bashed by the same group of posters that have never actually deposited or played with their own money it pisses me off. You never see members complaining it's just the same group of floaters and freeloaders that have nothing better to do with their time. As far as the vig I'm hoping to give everyone a sneak peek of the exchange next week.
                                          The guys bashing are just little punks with $10 to their names

                                          Love it, I hear way more positives than negatives on subject
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                                          • Bluehorseshoe
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-13-06
                                            • 14985

                                            #371
                                            Also, a -105 and -110 in a parlay there pays $260 on a $100 wagered.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              It might be just change but change adds up. This is the same as going to the store and not getting change back. Maybe 27 cents change doesn't mean much for you but I give all my change to my kids every day and they put them in their piggy bank and once every couple months we open it up and they get to choose to buy their favorite toy.
                                              Paver I throw change out in the street or in the fukkin brooks for good luck, you need to hang around me more.
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82532

                                                #373
                                                If you win you should donate it to St.Jude's. I will match the $2.53 if you win.
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                                                • firedawg
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-08-08
                                                  • 39219

                                                  #374
                                                  jj.............call blackie. tell him im commin back.
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                                                  • Justin7
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                    • 8577

                                                    #375
                                                    Sure. I've handled complaints over $5; no reason you can't do $2.53.
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                                                    • BigDaddy
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-01-06
                                                      • 8378

                                                      #376
                                                      thanks justin can you link me to the complaint form?
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                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                        • 58063

                                                        #377
                                                        go for it
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                                                        • BigDaddy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-01-06
                                                          • 8378

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          If you win you should donate it to St.Jude's. I will match the $2.53 if you win.
                                                          that is a great idea

                                                          i will ask sbr to do that if they can.
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                                                          • Sam Odom
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-30-05
                                                            • 58063

                                                            #379
                                                            I will donate 5.00

                                                            start a pool
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                                                            • yisman
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-01-08
                                                              • 75682

                                                              #380
                                                              complaint form
                                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                              [/quote]

                                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                              • darys
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 03-23-09
                                                                • 315

                                                                #381
                                                                I'd like to see the documents. sounds interesting.
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                                                                • sharpcat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 12-19-09
                                                                  • 4516

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                                  Also, a -105 and -110 in a parlay there pays $260 on a $100 wagered.
                                                                  Yet another way for a shady book to take advantage of square unknowing players

                                                                  This should pay 272.73 therefore decreasing the players advantage from -10% to -11.94% and increasing the house advantage from 3.84% to 4.59%.
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                                                                  • mtneer1212
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-22-08
                                                                    • 4993

                                                                    #383
                                                                    I hope Blackie delivers it to you personally with a fistful of nickels and a wooden bat.
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                                                                    • jayc88
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 12-30-07
                                                                      • 6785

                                                                      #384
                                                                      i wouldnt trust rebatewager with someonelse's money
                                                                      rw is a shady operation and your funds arent nearly as safe as in top rated books
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                                                                      • BigDaddy
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-01-06
                                                                        • 8378

                                                                        #385
                                                                        complaint submitted

                                                                        thank you
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