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  • obamaismyuncle
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-31-08
    • 17801

    #596
    Originally posted by Seven4os
    How does one go from this-- to this--

    OMG LOL

    Money.
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    • obamaismyuncle
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-31-08
      • 17801

      #597
      Originally posted by pavyracer
      Blackie consider the posts you make in this thread as personal interviews to potential customers like myself. Many posters are asking legitimate questions before trusting their hard earned money with your top class service book.

      Will you care to explain to a potential customer like myself why are the parlay payouts 15% lower than the advertised odds?
      Great question.
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      • BLACKIE
        SBR Sharp
        • 09-25-09
        • 430

        #598
        I will but first I'd like all you sharps to answer my question. Is there any rule in Vegas or anywhere else that dictates the premium that can be charged over true parlay odds by a sportsbook?
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        • Igetp2s
          SBR MVP
          • 05-21-07
          • 1046

          #599
          Blackie, turning to a more improtant topic, what is the story with the exchange? We're already almost halfway done with football season.
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          • -105
            SBR High Roller
            • 07-20-10
            • 208

            #600
            Hey "blackie" you didn't know about this "highly complex decimal rounding" before and how much money it makes yet in a few days it's fixed. Maybe you were drinking and doing a little too much blow this weekend and after sleeping for the first time in days realized that changing the rounding option was better for your bottom line (and just maybe you shouldn't have run your mouth). This explains why you couldn't go two words without a typo. Your guilty of being a bottom feeding lowlife with your little parlay payout shorting people that don't know an honest book like yours would short them with a software glitch. How the hell do people still play with you when you steal from, talk sh*t and lie to their face? Open a business school and I'll pay to learn this. At least I will have some use for you because your books are crap with betting limits tailored for Mcdonald's workers.
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            • BLACKIE
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-25-09
              • 430

              #601
              Maybe you should get a job at McDonalds so you can through a few bucks into a sportsbook.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82532

                #602
                Originally posted by BLACKIE
                I will but first I'd like all you sharps to answer my question. Is there any rule in Vegas or anywhere else that dictates the premium that can be charged over true parlay odds by a sportsbook?
                I don't live in Vegas so my gambling is limited to the books sponsored at SBR. So if I can get true odds at other sponsors I will bet there. And if a book in Vegas is charging a premium is irrelevant to me. I only do business with the sponsored offshore books.
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                • -105
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 07-20-10
                  • 208

                  #603
                  Originally posted by BLACKIE
                  Maybe you should get a job at McDonalds so you can through a few bucks into a sportsbook.
                  When I'm playing poker tonight for more money then you take on bets I'll think of you.
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                  • Iwinyourmoney
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-18-07
                    • 18368

                    #604
                    Originally posted by -105
                    When I'm playing poker tonight for more money then you take on bets I'll think of you.
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                    • 22dsnyd22
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-26-09
                      • 386

                      #605
                      Originally posted by BLACKIE
                      Maybe you should get a job at McDonalds so you can through a few bucks into a sportsbook.
                      Hahaha why would you say that. Why would you even give a shit what this dude thinks of your mcdonalds book. He obviously will never play at it.
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                      • BatemanPatrickl
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-21-07
                        • 18772

                        #606
                        Originally posted by -105
                        When I'm playing poker tonight for more money then you take on bets I'll think of you.
                        There's no need for this. Blackie is a great guy and he has always been very generous. If you don't like RW don't play there but I have always been paid on time and in on instance within hours after I asked.

                        I know for a fact Blackie does very well and unless you are playing for millions you may want to think twice before posting.
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                        • -105
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-20-10
                          • 208

                          #607
                          Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                          There's no need for this. Blackie is a great guy and he has always been very generous. If you don't like RW don't play there but I have always been paid on time and in on instance within hours after I asked. I know for a fact Blackie does very well and unless you are playing for millions you may want to think twice before posting.
                          I'm not putting my dick on the table here, This guys net worth and mine are not being measured. What is being measured is my pocket 8's can make me more money tonight then any straight bet on queerbatewager.
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                          • BatemanPatrickl
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-21-07
                            • 18772

                            #608
                            Originally posted by -105
                            I'm not putting my dick on the table here, This guys net worth and mine are not being measured. What is being measured is my pocket 8's can make me more money tonight then any straight bet on queerbatewager.
                            Good for you tough guy. You must be a mind reader to know what cards you are being dealt.
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                            • -105
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-20-10
                              • 208

                              #609
                              Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                              Good for you tough guy. You must be a mind reader to know what cards you are being dealt.
                              Typical QBW customer thinks mindreading alters cards being dealt.
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                              • BatemanPatrickl
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-21-07
                                • 18772

                                #610
                                Originally posted by -105
                                Typical QBR customer thinks mindreading will change what cards you are dealt.
                                That makes sense thanks for clearing that up kid. Good luck with your pocket 8s. Say hello to Worm for me.
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                                • -105
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 07-20-10
                                  • 208

                                  #611
                                  I just gave you more points than blackie lets you bet on a moneyline dog in usd. Want to come jump on my johnson for awhile?
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                                  • 22dsnyd22
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-26-09
                                    • 386

                                    #612
                                    Originally posted by -105
                                    I just gave you more points than blackie lets you bet on a moneyline dog in usd. Want to come jump on my johnson for awhile?
                                    haha whats got you all wound up. Is it true you really cant bet a dime at RW
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                                    • BigDaddy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-01-06
                                      • 8378

                                      #613
                                      Originally posted by sharpcat
                                      ^^Bonus whoring at its finest here^^

                                      How much of a freeplay were you given BigDaddy?
                                      unless you missed it when the threads got merged

                                      my account was closed.


                                      it was none of my business to question how blackie runs his own business as i was not even a depositing player at RW

                                      i won a $10 FP in a SBR contest and all hell broke loose

                                      i don't need that shit in my life.

                                      i am moving on from RW and i wish them the best of luck.

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                                      • Sam Odom
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-30-05
                                        • 58063

                                        #614
                                        BigD got intimidated by RW's lackeys

                                        sad but true
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                                        • blackbart
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-04-07
                                          • 3833

                                          #615
                                          i think pavy asked some relevant questions, that i would like to hear answered.
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                                          • Seven4os
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 09-10-10
                                            • 61

                                            #616
                                            Can someone please tell me how many other SBR Sponsored books pay out less in their parlays the way RW does?
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                                            • pokernut9999
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-25-07
                                              • 12757

                                              #617
                                              If you guys were as sharp as you say , you would not be betting parlays anyway.
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82532

                                                #618
                                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                If you guys were as sharp as you say , you would not be betting parlays anyway.
                                                Most of my plays are parlays. If you have two great plays why bet them separately?
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                                                • pokernut9999
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                  • 12757

                                                  #619
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Most of my plays are parlays. If you have two great plays why bet them separately?
                                                  No such things as great plays for one.

                                                  And I am pretty sure the parlay odds were only reflected by posters using free plays.

                                                  In over 2 years I have never seen any of the things mentioned in this thread.

                                                  If posters actually read the facts they would see this but their agenda is to just bash.

                                                  Wonder what kind of person wastes so much time of their life bashing a book that they do not play at

                                                  The most common reply is we are looking out for uninformed gamblers

                                                  If that is the case quit posting all your losers on the forum

                                                  Lock this , quarantee this , cant lose , all -in !!!!
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82532

                                                    #620
                                                    I am a prospective customer and asking reasonable questions. Who did I bash?
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                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #621
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      I am a prospective customer and asking reasonable questions. Who did I bash?

                                                      It was directed in general to all posters not just you.

                                                      Their soccer odds are not good so you will never be posting up there.
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                                                      • BLACKIE
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 09-25-09
                                                        • 430

                                                        #622
                                                        Here's your answer to you question Pavy. This info comes from SBR parlay calculator and anyone can reference the facts if the like.

                                                        • Mathematical Odds: The theoretical odds that would imply zero vig on the parlay
                                                        • True Parlay Odds: The odds implied by the underlying bets
                                                        • True Parlay Risk/Win Amount: The risk or win dollar value based on true parlay odds
                                                        • Premium Paid Over Mathematical Odds: Total vig charged on parlay (negative number would imply player edge)
                                                        • Premium Paid Over True Parlay Odds: The additional amount paid by player as percentage of parlay amount over and above that implied by the underlying bets (a negative number would imply the parlay was offered at a discount)

                                                        Sportsbooks can charge a higher or lower premium based on the risk or action they want to attract. Books such as Cascade charged a reduced premium to attract business. Everyone knows how that worked. We choose to charge a higher premium for the risk that we take as a matter of protecting our bottom line and ultimately protecting our players. The larger shops can charge a smaller premium because they have the volume to offset the risk. Once our volume offsets our risks we may choose to offer a more standard premium for contest players and sharps but until then we will only offer true parlay odds on parlays for our existing, depositing member base.
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                                                        • Shonner
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-05-10
                                                          • 1361

                                                          #623
                                                          Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                          Here's your answer to you question Pavy. This info comes from SBR parlay calculator and anyone can reference the facts if the like.

                                                          • Mathematical Odds: The theoretical odds that would imply zero vig on the parlay
                                                          • True Parlay Odds: The odds implied by the underlying bets
                                                          • True Parlay Risk/Win Amount: The risk or win dollar value based on true parlay odds
                                                          • Premium Paid Over Mathematical Odds: Total vig charged on parlay (negative number would imply player edge)
                                                          • Premium Paid Over True Parlay Odds: The additional amount paid by player as percentage of parlay amount over and above that implied by the underlying bets (a negative number would imply the parlay was offered at a discount)

                                                          Sportsbooks can charge a higher or lower premium based on the risk or action they want to attract. Books such as Cascade charged a reduced premium to attract business. Everyone knows how that worked. We choose to charge a higher premium for the risk that we take as a matter of protecting our bottom line and ultimately protecting our players. The larger shops can charge a smaller premium because they have the volume to offset the risk. Once our volume offsets our risks we may choose to offer a more standard premium for contest players and sharps but until then we will only offer true parlay odds on parlays for our existing, depositing member base.
                                                          Blackie: While I don't like your parlay odds I understand your viewpoint. I don't think there is anything unethical about it. Buyer beware. Like you said, if people want better parlay odds they can make the bet elsewhere.

                                                          I think it should be noted that you do offer free payouts (**/**, Prepaid card) and that top notch. No one offers free **/** payouts aside from you that I know of.

                                                          Every book has advantages and disadvantages.

                                                          Overall, you have a very solid book.
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82532

                                                            #624
                                                            Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                            Here's your answer to you question Pavy. This info comes from SBR parlay calculator and anyone can reference the facts if the like.

                                                            • Mathematical Odds: The theoretical odds that would imply zero vig on the parlay
                                                            • True Parlay Odds: The odds implied by the underlying bets
                                                            • True Parlay Risk/Win Amount: The risk or win dollar value based on true parlay odds
                                                            • Premium Paid Over Mathematical Odds: Total vig charged on parlay (negative number would imply player edge)
                                                            • Premium Paid Over True Parlay Odds: The additional amount paid by player as percentage of parlay amount over and above that implied by the underlying bets (a negative number would imply the parlay was offered at a discount)

                                                            Sportsbooks can charge a higher or lower premium based on the risk or action they want to attract. Books such as Cascade charged a reduced premium to attract business. Everyone knows how that worked. We choose to charge a higher premium for the risk that we take as a matter of protecting our bottom line and ultimately protecting our players. The larger shops can charge a smaller premium because they have the volume to offset the risk. Once our volume offsets our risks we may choose to offer a more standard premium for contest players and sharps but until then we will only offer true parlay odds on parlays for our existing, depositing member base.
                                                            OK this is good. I thought that each individual play had a vig hence the -110. So if you take 3 individual bets with a vig and put them in a parlay why do you have to pay a premium on top of the vig you payed for each individual play?
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                                                            • 22dsnyd22
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-26-09
                                                              • 386

                                                              #625
                                                              Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                              Here's your answer to you question Pavy. This info comes from SBR parlay calculator and anyone can reference the facts if the like.
                                                              • Mathematical Odds: The theoretical odds that would imply zero vig on the parlay
                                                              • True Parlay Odds: The odds implied by the underlying bets
                                                              • True Parlay Risk/Win Amount: The risk or win dollar value based on true parlay odds
                                                              • Premium Paid Over Mathematical Odds: Total vig charged on parlay (negative number would imply player edge)
                                                              • Premium Paid Over True Parlay Odds: The additional amount paid by player as percentage of parlay amount over and above that implied by the underlying bets (a negative number would imply the parlay was offered at a discount)

                                                              Sportsbooks can charge a higher or lower premium based on the risk or action they want to attract. Books such as Cascade charged a reduced premium to attract business. Everyone knows how that worked. We choose to charge a higher premium for the risk that we take as a matter of protecting our bottom line and ultimately protecting our players. The larger shops can charge a smaller premium because they have the volume to offset the risk. Once our volume offsets our risks we may choose to offer a more standard premium for contest players and sharps but until then we will only offer true parlay odds on parlays for our existing, depositing member base.
                                                              I know other books that did this same thing. Its like any other business. You have to do whats in best interest for you and your customers. There nothing wrong with these odds. Most dont bet parlays, but if you are a parlay better best to go somewhere else.
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                                                              • blackbart
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-04-07
                                                                • 3833

                                                                #626
                                                                to use free plays you should use parlays
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                                                                • durito
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                                  • 13173

                                                                  #627
                                                                  Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                                  I will but first I'd like all you sharps to answer my question. Is there any rule in Vegas or anywhere else that dictates the premium that can be charged over true parlay odds by a sportsbook?
                                                                  Nope. Parlay odds vary across most books. I don't see what the problem is.
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                                                                  • yisman
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-01-08
                                                                    • 75682

                                                                    #628
                                                                    it's rounding down again, although this was on a freeplay, so maybe they're only doing this with freeplay stuff.


                                                                    to win 7.83 becomes to win 7
                                                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                    [/quote]

                                                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                    • yisman
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                                      • 75682

                                                                      #629
                                                                      ...and we're back to every bet getting rounded down again.
                                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                      [/quote]

                                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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