First of all I have been a life long Twins fan with some of my earliest Twins memories comming when they beat St. Louis in the 1987 World Series. Twins have now lost 12 straight playoff games with the last win comming against the Yankees in 2004. Gardenhire seems like a good guy and may even be named Manager of the Year. This is no longer the Twins team with one of the smallest payrolls in the game, they are 11th among all MLB teams(98 million), and also have the new ballpark. The Pohlad family who owns the team has told people in the know that Gardenhire can manage the twins for as long as he wants, what a joke. Gardenhire needs to be fired. They will raise their cute little Central Division banner in April, which imo doesn't mean shit...it means you beat out the Royals, Indians, White Sox and Tigers. Enough is enough the guy doesn't know how to manage in the playoffs. Tom Kelly knew how to manage in the playoffs with much lesser talent...enough is enough and the thought of him having the job for as long as he wants makes me wanna puke...**** you Gardenhire.
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the players play the game blame themComment -
Twins weren't exactly 100% this year .It's up to ownership to get a better pitching staff.Comment -
The need to fire everybody and start overComment -
Mauer first.
Looks like Joe Mauer will be a bust from here on out.During the life of that huge contract he signed,he's going to be just an average catcher.His health problems are going to be a factor where they are going to have to play him in right field and DH alot.He has no power4 at Target field and he's a choke artist.Comment -
Twins had to push in the final months of regular season and avoid Yankees. I see them winning vs other 2 teams.Comment -
12 straight playoffs loses, that number is just mind blowingComment -
they have the talent of a .500 team, can't blame the coachComment -
They have a solid pitching staff that is built for the regular season but no ace. That's what they need.Problem is when they develop one, they can not afford to keep him. They will not pay the 100 million to get one .As a result ,they are a very good,very solid ,small market team. They will never beat the Yankees as it stands.
Certainly not the managers fault.They needed to face T.B. or Texas unfortunately.Comment -
Morneau sits down to peeComment -
Not only should Gardy not get fired, but he should win Manager of the Year.
Easy to forget this team had same record as the Yankees with seemingly half the talent.Comment -
I think Gardy actually did well this year. I would have put them at .500 as this years expectations. I think he did some good pitching changes as the season went on as well. Liriano was a 5 starter at the begining of the year and Dunseng wasn't even on the roster. Justin M going down and knowing Velencia was a better move than Punto were good moves. Lets remind ourselves that beating the Yanks post season is not the easiest task at hand. My Opinion.Comment -
No he doesn't need to be fired. When playing the Yankees they have 4 more men on their roster.Comment -
missing Morneau and Nathan hurt
plus the ump screwed the Twins in Game 2[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
12 straight playoff losses tho, I mean come on...12 straight? Bring back Tom Kelly or I would love love love to see Ozzie Guillen manage the Twins..Comment -
Gardenhire had to deal with an injured Morneau for a large portion of the year and still almost had the best record in the AL with a very small budget compared to the Yankees, so no he shouldn't be fired.Comment -
what a stupid effing thread.
its not gardenhire's fault he can't start liriano every night and the twins got matched up with the yankees. the twins are the third best team in baseball, they just happened to get matched up against one of the top 2 in their first round matchup.
this thread is nonsense.Comment -
This!what a stupid effing thread.
its not gardenhire's fault he can't start liriano every night and the twins got matched up with the yankees. the twins are the third best team in baseball, they just happened to get matched up against one of the top 2 in their first round matchup.
this thread is nonsense.Comment -
what a stupid effing thread.
its not gardenhire's fault he can't start liriano every night and the twins got matched up with the yankees. the twins are the third best team in baseball, they just happened to get matched up against one of the top 2 in their first round matchup.
this thread is nonsense.
let me guess you're one of the Gardenhire apologists from Minnesota?Comment -
You can fire him, just make sure you have someone better waiting in the wings. The 49ers fired Mariucci because he plateaued by simply making the playoffs and not advancing, with no clue as to who to replace him with. Now years later they are still looking for someone half as good.Comment -
i'm just not retarded. if that makes me a gardenhire apologist so be it.
fwiw i'm a braves fan first and foremost, but i've always rooted for the twins as my second team and preferred AL team because i love what they do. they're a small market team that always puts a great product on the field. give gardenhire the yankees' payroll and he would win playoff games with no problem.
the twins would beat the rangers, rays, braves, giants, and reds in a playoff series. unfortunately for them they got the yanks first round so they can't prove it.
you're just bitter because they got bumped already, but really, this thread is retarded. i suspect anybody in baseball would say the same.Comment -
Don't try to guess what I am. I am a Twins fan, I do not live and die with their wins and losses. FYI I had Twins +1.5 game #1(lost) and Yanks ML the last two games(won). I believe the Twins would have beated Tampa or Texas, but for a week after the Twins clinched the division Gardy rested most all starters. Gardy should be held most accountable for not going after the best record. 12 straight playoff loses do not lie
Wanna compare Tom Kelly's playoff record to Gardenhire's playoff record? TK did it with much less talent as well. As I said 12 straight playoff losses do not lie..
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He turns crap into caviar every year. Wait a minute, caviar is already crap, sort of.Comment -
The guy is the best manager in baseball. This is a joke. Who else could be this consistent with a low-middle payroll, losing their star player for the second half of the season, and not having a staff ace? If he were fired, the line of teams looking to hire him would be long and plentiful.Comment -
they might have to completly blow up the pitching staff this offseason, i believe liriano and pavano are free agents now right?
its like when the vikings fired denny green, great regular season teams who cant make the next step, they fire their manager and it usually sets them back bigtimeComment -
AL manager of the yearComment -
He doesn't deserve to be fired they just need to figure out how to beat the Yankees.Comment -
If you feel he needs to be fired, what do you feel is he doing wrong?
Im not sure any one could have gotten much out of a huge group of average players and Joe Mauer.
You point out they have a 98 million dollar payroll, bit fail to point out that 25 million of that is tied up in two players on the DL.Comment -
Jason Kubel does.Comment -
they should retain him.
he will lead them to the promise land eventually. who knows what they can do with a healthy morneau, nathan, and perhaps a true ace.
patience, young grasshopper.Comment -
