Question about Horse Betting

[Dank_Fire]

How is the ''mourning line" crafted? Cant be same way sports are lol

[madmaxx]

Each track has a guy who sets the ML for that track.

[dollarbill]

Thats what I always thought as well, MM.......

I'll use any horse 8/1 and under ML and if I don't that is when the winner pays $43 and the ML on this horse was 8/1

[madmaxx]

For the most part these guys are pretty good and the horse is pretty close to the ML when the race goes off. There are times where you will see a 20-1 ML bet down to 2-1 when they go in the gate and a 5-1 ML gets ignored in the betting and goes off 25-1, especially at the shitty tracks.

[tkim8404]

I was wondering the same exact thing.

[jw]

For the most part these guys are pretty good and the horse is pretty close to the ML when the race goes off. There are times where you will see a 20-1 ML bet down to 2-1 when they go in the gate and a 5-1 ML gets ignored in the betting and goes off 25-1, especially at the shitty tracks.

Personally I think the majority of them do a VERY poor job .. especially at the smaller tracks and when an obvious short price horse is marked up @ 7/5 morning line that you know for sure will go off @ 3/5 or lower ... it gives some nice opportunities to get in early on BetFair though for whatever liquidity is around a few hours before the betting gets serious in a race

[polskboy]

if you want to make some money dont bet on horses.

[Salamander]

if you want to make some money dont bet on horses.

It's too easy a game for me, wish they'd take out 40 or 45% instead of 20-25% to make it more challenging.

[jjgold]

For the most part these guys are pretty good and the horse is pretty close to the ML when the race goes off. There are times where you will see a 20-1 ML bet down to 2-1 when they go in the gate and a 5-1 ML gets ignored in the betting and goes off 25-1, especially at the shitty tracks.

Exactly, the morning lines odds are very accurate and do show where the public money will end up.

[MadTiger]

But it also can be a self-fulfilling prophecy with that morning line betting.

"Oh, I should be betting on Horse X, because he is going off at 2/1."

The favorite only wins the race 1/3 of the time, though.

[cecil127]

keep your eye on early $. keep your eye on late $.
dave browers makes the m/l odds at the meadowlands. by and large he doesnt know jack chit.

[floridagolfer]

These guys do a decent job. I think it's harder than it looks to set the odds on a hundred horses a day and do it four or five or six days a week. But all they're doing is providing a rough estimate as to which horses are contenders and which horses aren't. Yeah, there are going to be times when a horse that's 4-1 on the ML goes off at 12-1, and vice versa, but the whole business hardly is an exact science.

[str]

Thats what I always thought as well, MM.......

I'll use any horse 8/1 and under ML and if I don't that is when the winner pays $43 and the ML on this horse was 8/1

FYI:Most ML handicappers use the 8-1 morning line on all horses that are 1st time starters or whose recent fitness might be in question. This might not be true everywhere but certainly true on most of the east coast. Now if a firster comes with great workouts or from a barn that is very strong it will probably be different(less).
What I am trying to say is that 8-1 ML is a real question mark horse if the info is limited and you should really pay attention to the win pool, doubles and exactas for more info on these horses more so than the others.Considering following the early and late money should always factor in to some extent but do not let it completely change your mind if your opinion is strong.Hope that helps.

[mikemca]

Lonestar and suffolk put up the most accurate mls according to a study done.With aquaduct,hollywood and keeneland close behind.Among the worst are hoosier park and fort erie.Bad mls are a good thing for handicappers and the way to exploit them is through pick 3's and 4's were picks are made in advance and quite a few people just put the top contenders according to the ml in their 3rd and 4th legs.

[Sam Odom]

ML means little, will sway the weak minded

[Richkas]

I never even look at the ML. Means nothing.

[3PtShooter]

main thing on the morning line is earnability

[Pharieswheel]

I've know a couple of morning line makers, No names, but one of them used to set an unusual morning line to tip off his coharts, that something he knows or saw is up and tipped the horse to them this way. Watch the morning line carefully 4-1 is a good tip morning line, especially if the horse is bet in half

[MadTiger]

ML means little, will sway the weak minded

[Dank_Fire]

Solid Info here, THX Guys

[str]

I've know a couple of morning line makers, No names, but one of them used to set an unusual morning line to tip off his coharts, that something he knows or saw is up and tipped the horse to them this way. Watch the morning line carefully 4-1 is a good tip morning line, especially if the horse is bet in half

The misconception that most players have is that these guys really know anything.
Let's tell these guys like it is.
They DO NOT.
They are handicappers that maybe talked to the clocker.
You will go broke in a month listening to that .

[coloradobuff]

like the info