Originally posted by Hotdiggity11
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Ah yes, the Willard
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Case example.
I got a free one night stay at La Quinta Inn in St.Louis near all the stadiums and arenas.The hotel clerk says,that will be $9.12 please.She gave me a receipt and there were fed,state,local taxes galore who got a piece of that $9.12.Entertainment tax was a hoot because I didn't go anywhere to get entertained when I was in St.Louis.That's the friggin pro team owners that need that money they strong arm you for to get free places to run their pro sports businesses.Isn't that taxation without representation?
So this crap happens in day to day life for everyone many times a day where they keep getting taxed and regulated where they are chisseled to death.So along comes a poor hard working waitress that did her job well where she hopes to get a voluntary few cents per dollar you spent at the establishment she works at.The custome looks in his pocket and there isn't much left so they feel bad and all for the waitress but don't give her much.Cut and dried,this is the scenario why tipping is drying up in the U.S.A.Comment -
This whole Us vs Europe tipping thing is weird to me. I was hanging out with a girl from Ireland a couple months ago who told me that she expects tips at the bar where she works, and Americans are the worst tippers.
I'd rather pay the flat service fee than tip. I usually only tip at restaurants and sometimes cab drivers. I hate trying to figure out who to tip and how much. The system sucks.Comment -
Originally posted by craig4nr
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case by case situationComment -
I know a lot of places that I've been to add the charge to the bill if the party is over 6 people or if it is really late at night. Doesn't seem like it would be that big of an issue from a consumer standpoint if they did that accross the board. The question is then what happens when you have bad service and feel that the charge is not justified.Comment -
The problem with 'tips' or 'gratuities' is they aren't actually tips anymore. The are an expected cost of the item or service. The amount you are expected to 'tip' has no correlation the quality of service you receive.
At the rehearsal dinner for my brothers wedding, it was a buffet the 'tip' was 25% (on a $750 dollar bill); obviously this is seriously ridiculous and wasn't even a tip as it was already on the bill --Comment -
if a service fee is added to the bill, and the guest believes the service was not up to par, the manager will fold like a lawnchair and remove the service fee from the check, after you've been run ragged by your party of 15. $3.65/hr + tips does not cut it boys and girls, especially when w/w's are obligated to claim 10% of their sales, then people 11 and 12 percent your ass all night long b/c they are cheap. w/w's have to tip out bartenders, food runners, and service support staff, b/c the restaurants don't want to pay anyone. this cuts deeply into the money they have made as well, when 6% (of sales) is coming out of their tips to pay others.
i work in a restaurant, and i get pissed when i think about my wife making more money than i, while i run my ass off for needy people, and she's sits behind a desk all day and makes bank. seems like b/s to me.Comment -
they included the tip money when they quoted you on how much you would be charged correct? if not i would dispute that all day long........Originally posted by gryfyn1Comment -
why do tellers at race tracks expect a tip if you bought the ticket in a self service machine. if you got a quick pic from the teller maybe but what did they do? cash the ticket and expect you to leave the change if you hit something for 23.80 they don't like forking over the change. if you give the the .20 to even if off for them they give you a dirty look. thank goodness for the .10 superfectas now i can run off the change balance on dime supers and when i cash out it's only .01-.09 which i leave.Comment -
I really don't expect too much .. I want my order taken ... my glass kept at least half full ... and for you to check on me a couple of times during the meal .... for that ... you get 20% .. maybe 25% depending on the cost of the meal ...Originally posted by gryfyn1
If my glass gets empty .... it drops to 15% ... if your attitude sucks ... and/or you screw up the order ... you might just get a dollar ...
There may well be an "expected" amount - however ... the amount of the tip most certainly depends on the level of service in my case.
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I live in cali wheres minimum wage is 8.25/hr if u live in a state with 2.45 an hour thats your own fault for working a POS jobOriginally posted by OmgUrMomthey should be glad they make like $2.45 an hour in some states?
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It's easy to stiff the waitstaff if you are traveling also. You got their service already and will never return so you could just pay the the $50 tab and "forget" the $8-10 tip you should leave ( if you have a conscience). You wouldn't do that at a place you frequent.
NBA players seem especially adept at stiffing/ or tipping 3%....that blows when they make 10 million a year !
15- 20 % is what I leave, more if excellent. 18% on restaurant.com stuff. 25% + for breakfast. Nothing for fast food.Comment -
Federal minimum is something like $7. $2.45 means they should be tipped ...Originally posted by Killer_Demo
back to service charge or voluntary tip debate. You can't not tip at least 12-15% for satisfactory service.....and ever come back and think about eating the food. It is what it is.
Put yourself in the place of the waitstaff for a moment, sir !
tip the right people, not the mailman.Comment -
i need my all my $$$...let the suckers tip...Originally posted by DougComment -
Guys who complain about tipping
Unreal
Probably the same guys who started the thread about the Subway footlong sandwich not being a "good deal"
Some cheap motherfukers hereComment -
a piece of advice....Originally posted by Killer_Demo
don't eat at the same place twice anytime soon !
You might just get some extra toppings for free, or at least poor service.
You have to tip a waitress/ waiter in the US.Comment -
a piece of advice...i dont HAVE to do shit in this country...like i said let suckers like you tipOriginally posted by DougComment -
most of you are a bunch of cheap fuckers but obviously degenerates are usually low on cashComment -
Waitresses come and go so frequently that I doubt you'll get the same server too many times (well in the Washington DC area anyway). And they probably don't have the best memory, who's to say they will even remember you? Also, what if you look like a tip stiffer and they f*ck with your food because they think you are him. You're never safe.Originally posted by DougComment -
I don't like tipping anymore than you do, Killer. I don't tip everybody under the sun. You should tip a waitress, though. I never add an additional tip when it's there already... if they say 15% or 18% and it's in the bill, that's what they get.
I would leave a $2 tip on a $6 breakfast automatically unless the food was bad ( never going back, so zero) or the service was awful.
I'm kind of tight myself, but leave around 15-18% on average....just enough basically !Comment -
Are you Black ? Your excuses for not tipping are poor ! Do you expect to be paid decently for your work ?Originally posted by JimmysEgo
What does a tip stiffer look like ?
maybe a Negro ?Comment -
This looks like a good thread for pts, thx!
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true story...i went to the club and got a bottle of beer...costs 5 bucks already...i give her 5 and this hot 5 star bartender was like are you gonna tip? i told her she walked 5 feet and opened a bottle you expect me to tip you for that/because your hot? AINT GONNA HAPPEN...god I love taking top-notch women off their high-horseOriginally posted by DougComment -
I used to tend bar in a dive place. I'm not a HOT chick, BTW ! The cabbie typically tipped a dollar a beer, the doctor stiffed you. I'd be happy enough with $1 every other beer, or 50 cents average.Originally posted by Killer_Demo
Asking for a tip is out of line, IMO. I wouldn't tip her either ! A tip should be acknowledged as well with a sincere
thank you, even if under $1. We ain't that far apart, Killer !
You'll get your next beer after I serve the cabbie that tokes $1 a beer, though !
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it works to a degree. You'll get your beer first.Comment -
if u dont want to tip your waiters or waitresses then unless they recieve raises you will haae that annoying McDonalds casher that cant understand or speak english helping serve your complete meal, people complain about everything but if u think u had a good waitor then tip them, if not ten dont and leave a note explaining your reasons and ill bet they dont repeat the mistakes for long,Comment -
it's on the customer to tip the waitress for decent service. This is nothing new, always been this way in the US. I'm almost 47, was this way 30 years ago, too !
certain groups are known poor tippers....like a bunch of teenagers aren't going to tip 18% on average, nor will a Black person be likely to tip well, or a Canadian , and probably a European tourist.
It is what it is, deal with it if you are a tip dependent worker.Comment -
or asians/mexicans, american dollar meaans a lot more to themComment -
this is a true story;
when I was a kid I worked as a busboy in this upmarket restaurant, they had all the big names perform there, frank sinatra, liza minelli , you can guess who was running it by those names.
anyway, one day Muhammad Ali came in to watch a show with his crew, guess how much he left as a tip for about 700 meal?
TEN BUCKS
that fukin piece of garbage left ten dollars, fuk tipping, dumb ass ideaComment -
That's a stiff job for sure ! I wouldn't expect a celeb to tip 100% or anything, but $125-150 was called for from a millionaire just to be average.
Is it any wonder that a black beauty can't get a cab ?
I see a correlation to being black and not tipping, that's why a cabbie won't pick your ass up.Comment -
waitress was white also, we know what a racist piece of garbage clay isComment -
WTF that's almost as bad as NO TIPPIN PIPPEN
Scottie Pippen never left a tip in his life
Documented fact in ChicagoComment -
Originally posted by Cougar Bait
NO CLASS THEN for SP. No surprise that a millionaire NBA Niggah stiffs, and won't tip 20 % like a normal human being.
and then they wonder why they can't get a cab ?Comment -
if the service is bad, do you still tip? Because it is expected?Comment -
The thread has gone astray. The point is not who is generous/stiff tipping. The point is: Why do we allow this tipping system to exist? Why not include every expense in the price tag of the service or product offered?
If you ask for a special service, it is OK to pay for it. But paying extra for the normal service that every business must give is not right. If I go to a store to buy a TV, I expect the department guy to show me the models available. If the guy gives me a bad service I should complain, and he may get fired as he hurts the business.
So, why does it works different with food services? The tipping problems are clear: It allows the owner to underpay to his people, and the customer is expected to complement. But often the taxes are cheated, the worker retirement fund is not benefited, the customer may not get a refund of the tip on his business expenses, etc. Then, why is this system allowed?Comment
