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  • rake922
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    • 12-23-07
    • 11692

    #1
    Tom Brady has never covered in a superbowl when Pats are favored....
    Does this make you lean toward taking the Giants
  • Deuce
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    • 01-12-08
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    #2
    Raker, Raker, No Raker.
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    • MBENZ
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      • 01-07-07
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      #3
      Originally posted by rake922
      Does this make you lean toward taking the Giants
      No
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      • mofome
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        • 12-19-07
        • 13003

        #4
        Originally posted by rake922
        Does this make you lean toward taking the Giants


        thats ridiculous.
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        • 5 star bomb
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          • 10-12-07
          • 5370

          #5
          Originally posted by rake922
          Does this make you lean toward taking the Giants




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          • durito
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            • 07-03-06
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            #6
            That's a huge sample size of 2
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            • Tchocky
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              • 02-14-06
              • 2371

              #7
              Do you have any stats to back up your assertion? What was the line on the Pats on their previous trips to the Superbowl?
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              • durito
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                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                Originally posted by Tchocky
                Do you have any stats to back up your assertion? What was the line on the Pats on their previous trips to the Superbowl?
                2004/05 Pats -7 v Eagles W 24-21
                2003/04 Pats -7 v Panthers W 32-29
                2001/02 Pats +14 v Rams W 20-17
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                • MadCapper
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                  • 01-27-08
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                  #9
                  You have a point...

                  Then again the Pats were never 18-0 going into any of those Superbowls either.
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                  • Tchocky
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                    • 02-14-06
                    • 2371

                    #10
                    Originally posted by durito
                    2004/05 Pats -7 v Eagles W 24-21
                    2003/04 Pats -7 v Panthers W 32-29
                    2001/02 Pats +14 v Rams W 20-17
                    So they failed to cover when they were the favorite and won when they were the dog. Thanks. That's good enough for me.
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                    • 5 star bomb
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                      • 10-12-07
                      • 5370

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MadCapper
                      You have a point...

                      Then again the Pats were never 18-0 going into any of those Superbowls either.

                      Madcapper is here? Hell ya! Whats up bro?
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                      • MadCapper
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                        • 01-27-08
                        • 4179

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                        Madcapper is here? Hell ya! Whats up bro?
                        Hey 5*.

                        I'm doing well. Just stopping by a for a few. Hows everything with you?
                        My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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                        • 5 star bomb
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                          • 10-12-07
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MadCapper
                          Hey 5*.

                          I'm doing well. Just stopping by a for a few. Hows everything with you?

                          Good to hear madcapper, im doing alright just overlooking some games right now. Trying to see what I like... You're one of the best who are you on tonight?
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                          • durito
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                            • 07-03-06
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MadCapper
                            You have a point...

                            Then again the Pats were never 18-0 going into any of those Superbowls either.
                            What point is that? That they didn't cover in 2 previous games is hardly significant at all. In fact, it's probably an exception as the Super Bowl winner has won by 14+ pts in 21 out of the 41 games. So, super bowls tend to be blowouts. 41 games isn't a very large sample size either, but it sure beats 2.
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                            • rake922
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                              • 12-23-07
                              • 11692

                              #15
                              Originally posted by durito
                              What point is that? That they didn't cover in 2 previous games is hardly significant at all. In fact, it's probably an exception as the Super Bowl winner has won by 14+ pts in 21 out of the 41 games. So, super bowls tend to be blowouts. 41 games isn't a very large sample size either, but it sure beats 2.
                              so half of the games have had a final score of somebody winning by 2 TDs?
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                              • durito
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                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #16
                                Originally posted by rake922
                                so half of the games have had a final score of somebody winning by 2 TDs?
                                14+ as in 2 TDs or more
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                                • mofome
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-19-07
                                  • 13003

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MadCapper
                                  You have a point...

                                  Then again the Pats were never 18-0 going into any of those Superbowls either.


                                  **!!! great to see you on man! we've had some good battles in the past but i hope you're around for the end of ncaab and bases. getting to know you a bit better off the boards has been a pleasure.

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                                  • 5 star bomb
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                                    • 10-12-07
                                    • 5370

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mofome
                                    **!!! great to see you on man! we've had some good battles in the past but i hope you're around for the end of ncaab and bases. getting to know you a bit better off the boards has been a pleasure.


                                    Madcapper's plays = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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                                    • LT Profits
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                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by rake922
                                      so half of the games have had a final score of somebody winning by 2 TDs?
                                      Yes. By AT LEAST 2 TDs
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                                      • LT Profits
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                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Sorry durito, didn't see your response.
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                                        • MadCapper
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                                          • 01-27-08
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                                          Good to hear madcapper, im doing alright just overlooking some games right now. Trying to see what I like... You're one of the best who are you on tonight?
                                          Suns -7.5

                                          Also tennis play that starts soon in you are interested....

                                          101 Sergio Roitman -130 (starts in 20 min)
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                                          • brock
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                                            • 01-07-08
                                            • 8284

                                            #22
                                            Im not a trend better but interesting info
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                                            • MadCapper
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                                              • 01-27-08
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mofome
                                              **!!! great to see you on man! we've had some good battles in the past but i hope you're around for the end of ncaab and bases. getting to know you a bit better off the boards has been a pleasure.

                                              Thanx mofo. Just visiting now. Looks like a nice place here.
                                              My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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                                              • BadNina
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                                                • 11-27-07
                                                • 10491

                                                #24
                                                While both teams have solid defenses, the Giants seem to base their offensive plays on making sure Eli doesn't lose it for them while the Pats play to win. I think they will cover in this one.
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                                                • mofome
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                                                  • 12-19-07
                                                  • 13003

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                                                  Madcapper's plays = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$





                                                  true words my friend.


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                                                  • brock
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                                                    • 01-07-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    ** how you do in susie open tennis betting this year
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                                                    • mofome
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                                                      • 12-19-07
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MadCapper
                                                      Thanx mofo. Just visiting now. Looks like a nice place here.

                                                      soon there will be a strict handicapping forum to go along with this main one and the sports forums, something for everyone. we just need to keep getting those ** tennis plays.

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                                                      • MadCapper
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                                                        • 01-27-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by brock
                                                        ** how you do in susie open tennis betting this year
                                                        aussie i assume?

                                                        i made a little over 600 dollars on it. i bet mostly dogs and no big favs.
                                                        My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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                                                        • brock
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                                                          • 01-07-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MadCapper
                                                          aussie i assume?

                                                          i made a little over 600 dollars on it. i bet mostly dogs and no big favs.
                                                          sorry I meant aussie,, pretty good **
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                                                          • isetcap
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                                                            • 12-16-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Maybe the fact that NEP has not covered the spread in it's last 5 contests is of more importance if you like to bet on trends.

                                                            Perhaps you'd like to look at an ATS record of 2-8 since November.

                                                            These kinds of recent trends lead me to believe that the general public tends to think the Patriots are better than they in fact are.
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                                                            • Poker_Beast
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                                                              • 09-14-06
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                                                              #31
                                                              All of the money has to be going on the Pats, biggest setup of all time???????????
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                                                              • Wrigley
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                                                                • 12-28-07
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Poker_Beast
                                                                All of the money has to be going on the Pats, biggest setup of all time???????????
                                                                Id rather be on the side of the books then the player and the books will take a beating if Giants cover, I like Pats
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                                                                • LT Profits
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                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by isetcap
                                                                  Maybe the fact that NEP has not covered the spread in it's last 5 contests is of more importance if you like to bet on trends.

                                                                  Perhaps you'd like to look at an ATS record of 2-8 since November.

                                                                  These kinds of recent trends lead me to believe that the general public tends to think the Patriots are better than they in fact are.
                                                                  I actually think it's just the opposite: NE's recent ATS woes actually have them undervalued here, as the proper spread should be -14 or maybe even -14.5. Remember, they are sill rated about 15 points higher than the Giants on the LVSC Power Ratings.
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                                                                  • durito
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                                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                                    • 13173

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Poker_Beast
                                                                    All of the money has to be going on the Pats, biggest setup of all time???????????
                                                                    According to the sites that release those stats, sportsinsights, wagerline, carib, sportsbook.omc -- the giants are getting over 60% of the bets
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                                                                    • louisvillekid
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                                                                      • 08-14-07
                                                                      • 9262

                                                                      #35
                                                                      as of right now, however many books sportsbookspy monitors has a total of 57,515 bets, with NYG at 67% and NE at 33% of the bets, now of course i/we don't know the size of those bets going each way.
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