Florida and the points; this will be a three point game.
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Mac I will bet you 500 points that on October 1st 2005 Bama gave the hammer to FloridaComment -
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I just now realized what you were saying and how ridiculous of a statement about a football game that is. SO four years after the fact Bama was forced to forfeit 20 something games and that was one of them.Why do you think I said... "(cheaters stay quiet)". Are you so sure Bama won in 2005? Would you like to make a wager that Bama lost that game??? Like I said... Bama hasn't beaten UF at home since 1978.
Bama is 1-5 in the state of Alabama against UF since 1980... Also, the line did go up. I had hoped it would hit 10 but 9.5 was a gift.
Luckily for you Meyer remembers that game as a loss and im sure he is not into NCAA victories like some of his pathedic fans.Comment -
I'm just trying to figure out if everyone in this thread has watched the same Florida team as I have!?!? They have beaten 4 pretty miserable teams. Please keep betting Florida down so I can get Bama -7. I want Bama to lose as much as anyone, but Florida still has a little ways to go.Comment -
Nah... Give me Boise St. I am tired of the commie,pinko fag, liberal press hyping there ass. I hope Ohio St loses and Boise St runs the table and faces Alabama in the Championship game.. The Liberals want Boise to get there shot and hope they do. I would love to see Bama lay a hammer job on Boise to the tune of 49-10.. Maybe that would quite the liberal press about Boise deserving a shot.
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Nine was a huge line and im not sure where it will be at game time but I dont see why Florida can't keep it close.Comment -
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Alabama players cheated that year, not 4 years later. Half of them wouldn't even be eligible to have played in the game. We're not talking 1 player. That's no different then if they would have put Peyton Manning or Rickey Williams in the starting lineup after they used up their college eligibility. You can spin it all you want but Bama cheated, was caught cheating and had to vacate wins for there misdeeds. They should be lucky that the punishment was minor because they should have gotten the death penalty.
The records show that Bama LOST that game...
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - The NCAA placed Alabama’s football program and 15 other of the school’s athletic teams on three years’ probation for major violations due to misuse of free textbooks, stripping the Crimson Tide of 21 football wins over a three-year period. The NCAA said 201 athletes in 16 sports obtained “impermissible benefits” by using their scholarships to obtain free textbooks for other students. Alabama identified 22 athletes, including seven football players, as “intentional wrongdoers” who knew they were receiving improper benefits.
As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins, including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of Florida earlier that season.Comment -
Thanks for losing to Utah that year btw.Nah... Give me Boise St. I am tired of the commie,pinko fag, liberal press hyping there ass. I hope Ohio St loses and Boise St runs the table and faces Alabama in the Championship game.. The Liberals want Boise to get there shot and hope they do. I would love to see Bama lay a hammer job on Boise to the tune of 49-10.. Maybe that would quite the liberal press about Boise deserving a shot.Comment -
ha i want to bring that up as well but didnt. and being close alabama and their banwagon fans i got to hear all them talk about how the game didnt matter, that they were undefeated in the regular season, and what was always fun to hear was the bama fans saying "man Fvk bama".
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Up until recently, Auburn had never lost at BDS either. Past doesn't mean squat now does it? And to have to claim an NCAA vacated victory....how lame. Doesn't change a thing about what happened on the field. Oklahoma still had its ass handed to them by USC in 2004.
Now all silliness aside, if the losing team wins out (which either team is capable of doing) a loss in this particular game will not hurt in the eyes of pollsters as much as one of the other games. That is a compliment to both programs and the reputation they have built.Comment -
They cheated? How did they cheat? They got free text books and took the fall. Im sure you have never known anyone who played big time college football but I have known and know several and "cheating" happens at every school. You dont think Travis Carrol got a big time pay day to leave Bama and go back to UF in 99. Please. If you actually were part of either of these programs you know exactly how UF "cheated". All of the schools "cheat". But facts are facts and Bama won that game in 05 31-3 and trust me Meyer doesnt count it as a win in his column.
How effing lame to claim a NCAA victory. Mac I had respect for you but you have lost it all here. Who claims an NCAA awarded victory as part of the rivalry and past? Not to mention it doesnt have an effect on this game one bit.
Mac please promise me to come into this thread Sat nite or Sun morning and own up to sounding like an idiot with your off the wall prediction on this game.
Mac you really crack me up buddy
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I think the -9 is a good line. With a gun to my head I'd take Bama because I dont think Florida can generate enough offense to stay within 9.Comment -
I played football at UF so I'm somewhat familiar with "big time college football", and I disagree with your logic that all teams cheat. All teams don't cheat, a program like UF doesn't have to cheat. I know that UF tries it's best to run a clean program, free from cheating. Do schools make mistakes? unknowingly break the rules? Yep, but it's how they respond to the mistakes and how they come clean that determines their punishment in most cases.
Somehow your post is trying to justify cheating. Your even proud of the fact that Bama "won on the field", even after you knew they were cheating with ineligible players. I guess you also claim that Ben Johnson won the gold medal while on steroids? You probably think Rosie Ruiz won the Boston Marathon since she crossed the finish line even though she didn't run more than a few miles. You also probably believe that Dora Ratjen won the 1936 high jump even though she really was a man. Oh and you probably clapped when Danny Almonte at 14 was beating up on 12 year olds in the little leagues.
It's unfortunate that you think Bama won and even more that you justify it by saying "everyone cheats". Well everyone does not cheat and Bama got caught for their cheating thus forfeited the game.
I don't have to claim a UF victory for that day but Bama dam sure can't claim a victory, that's for sure. Of course that game has nothing to do with this game but the facts remain that Bama has not beaten UF at home since 1978. Spin it all you want.
I'm not sure what "off the wall" prediction I've made about this game? but I'll be back Saturday night win or lose. If Bama wins then hats off to them. It's just another game. If UF wins or covers, it'll still be just another game. We all win some and lose some. BOL
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Why is it that only Bama fans can justify wins while caught cheating
Something about that is very sadistic and similar to the cheating 2000 Spanish Paralympic team...
So you thought the episode of South Park where Cartman pretends to be mentally disabled to enter the Special Olympics was fiction? Think again. The 2000 Paralympics saw the basketball team from Spain take the gold medal in the “intellectual disability” category. Carlos Ribagorda, an undercover journalist, revealed that the players on Spain’s team had not actually undergone the testing required to prove mental deficiency. It turned out that ten of the twelve players on the Spain basketball team were perfectly normal, making us really, really wish some of these games were on YouTube, just, you know, for research purposes. It wasn’t just the basketball team either, participants in table tennis, track and field, and swimming events were also not disabled, making us really wonder about Spain a little bit. Cause, come on, really? Cheating in the intellectually disabled portion of the Paralympics? I’m not sure it gets a lot worse than that.
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You are talking about people who had a competitive advantage. What Bama did gave them no competitive advantage and as a matter of fact the NCAA didnt take away schollys because of what? It wasnt an on field issue and just an oversight in how books were distributed. About schools cheating I know for a fact of a UF player who was driving an alumni vehicle paid for by alumni money. Lots of people know. Bama did not cheat. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard and you dont even sound remotely intelligent or convincing in your statements. Cheating is competitive advantage. Books that were given to other students is not competitive advantage. Think about your logic. ALL SCHOOLS BREAK NCAA RULES AND BY YOUR LOGIC THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE "CHEATING". Happens at every big time program all the time. Facts are Facts. Bama hammered UF 31-3. Has nothing to do with the whooping they will put on the Gators this weekend or in Dec but to clarify your misstatements Bama did not cheat to beat the crap out of Meyer.I played football at UF so I'm somewhat familiar with "big time college football", and I disagree with your logic that all teams cheat. All teams don't cheat, a program like UF doesn't have to cheat. I know that UF tries it's best to run a clean program, free from cheating. Do schools make mistakes? unknowingly break the rules? Yep, but it's how they respond to the mistakes and how they come clean that determines their punishment in most cases. Somehow your post is trying to justify cheating. Your even proud of the fact that Bama "won on the field", even after you knew they were cheating with ineligible players. I guess you also claim that Ben Johnson won the gold medal while on steroids? You probably think Rosie Ruiz won the Boston Marathon since she crossed the finish line even though she didn't run more than a few miles. You also probably believe that Dora Ratjen won the 1936 high jump even though she really was a man. Oh and you probably clapped when Danny Almonte at 14 was beating up on 12 year olds in the little leagues. It's unfortunate that you think Bama won and even more that you justify it by saying "everyone cheats". Well everyone does not cheat and Bama got caught for their cheating thus forfeited the game. I don't have to claim a UF victory for that day but Bama dam sure can't claim a victory, that's for sure. Of course that game has nothing to do with this game but the facts remain that Bama has not beaten UF at home since 1978. Spin it all you want. I'm not sure what "off the wall" prediction I've made about this game? but I'll be back Saturday night win or lose. If Bama wins then hats off to them. It's just another game. If UF wins or covers, it'll still be just another game. We all win some and lose some. BOL
Bama won then, they won last year, they dominate this year.
I live in Gator country and I cant wait to go to the Ale house and see all the jort wearing Gator fans telling me how oh "we are just getting warmed up. Trey Burton is the next Percy Harvin. John Brantley is better than Tebow."
All I have to say is UF is making a mockery out of the legal system in the state of Florida and its disgusting. How many felons are on the Gator roster? Meyer has successfully trumped Miami and FSU as Thug U.
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Yeah, if Bama didn't shit the bed in the Sugar Bowl and would have blown Utah out that year, we wouldn't be having a dilemma about Boise State. Unfortunately, Choklahoma and Ramma Jammers both screwed up the BCS for everyone else. Oh but they didn't really want to play that dayNah... Give me Boise St. I am tired of the commie,pinko fag, liberal press hyping there ass. I hope Ohio St loses and Boise St runs the table and faces Alabama in the Championship game.. The Liberals want Boise to get there shot and hope they do. I would love to see Bama lay a hammer job on Boise to the tune of 49-10.. Maybe that would quite the liberal press about Boise deserving a shot.
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Mac, the whole book issue did nothing to give anyone an edge. Yes it was wrong. And note...it wasn't only football players. It isn't justifying cheating. USC is being punished for the actions of Reggie Bush. That does not change anything that happened during the time that Reggie played. It doesn't change the fact that Reggie was the best player in the NCAA that year. It doesn't change the fact that USC was the most likely (I threw that in there for the bitter Auburn fans) best team in the NCAA that year. They beat Oklahoma like a redheaded stepchild, up one side of the field and down the other. And the school is paying for that now. I have always been against "vacating" wins because it doesn't change what actually happened. Bobby Bowden won all those games that were taken from him. Actuality proves that. That Bama/Fl game featured one of the all time best catches in it. I would say that if Protho played for Florida. You seem hung up on one issue and have completely overlooked the respect that Bama fans show Florida. You are acting like an Auburn fan.Comment -
There you go again making excuses to cover up cheating. So over 200 athletes in Bama's program were selling books on the side like drug dealers, some making thousands of dollars a semester (one football player made over $3,500 in a week) and you don't see a competitive advantage??? The sad part of it all was that it was going on for several years and everyone knew about it. You don't think athletes talk to other athletes??? Yeah, no advantage at all.
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Well if athletes talk to other athletes and you played football for Florida you then should know exactly what I am talking about inside of the big programs. 99,00,01, and 02 .......im sure if you played for UF you know what happened then. Not for a public forum because I am personally friends with one of the guys involved but you should know.There you go again making excuses to cover up cheating. So over 200 athletes in Bama's program were selling books on the side like drug dealers, some making thousands of dollars a semester (one football player made over $3,500 in a week) and you don't see a competitive advantage??? The sad part of it all was that it was going on for several years and everyone knew about it. You don't think athletes talk to other athletes??? Yeah, no advantage at all.
Bottom line is it wasnt cheating. If it was cheating Bama would of done more than vacate wins. Thats like a slap on the wrist saying to "tighten up"Comment -
Crap...that's right. It was Southern Miss. Awesome catch.
Mac....we all can't score 107 violations in one whack like your precious Gators have done in the past but we try.Comment -
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I'm messing with you man....I'm a Bama fan and would love to see the Buckeyes or even Wisconsin/Iowa in Jan
