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[trade88]

You might want to learn how to spell retarded before calling someone that.

You also might want to avoid debating hockey with a guy who knew more about the game 20 years ago than you ever will. I truly can't be bothered constantly explaining to you how wrong you are.

"The Hawks won't finish above 7th and Giroux is the next Forsberg". You're a hockey genius, or as you'd type it, a hockey genuous. If anyone at this forum is foolish enough to follow your expert advice they deserve to lose their money.

[Deuce]

You might want to learn how to spell retarded before calling someone that. You also might want to avoid debating hockey with a guy who knew more about the game 20 years ago than you ever will. I truly can't be bothered constantly explaining to you how wrong you are. "The Hawks won't finish above 7th and Giroux is the next Forsberg". You're a hockey genius, or as you'd type it, a hockey genuous. If anyone at this forum is foolish enough to follow your expert advice they deserve to lose their money.

Spot on. Go Wings.

[Baxter Man13]

You might want to learn how to spell retarded before calling someone that. You also might want to avoid debating hockey with a guy who knew more about the game 20 years ago than you ever will. I truly can't be bothered constantly explaining to you how wrong you are. "The Hawks won't finish above 7th and Giroux is the next Forsberg". You're a hockey genius, or as you'd type it, a hockey genuous. If anyone at this forum is foolish enough to follow your expert advice they deserve to lose their money.

Let me know when you want them to trade88, again

and PS. I dont care if you have 50+ years in hockey history, still don't mean you have all the answers lol so whats that make you, 40's 50's? Wtf are you doing on a forum 24/7 at that age, dont you have a family? kids? grand kids?

[Baxter Man13]

You might want to learn how to spell retarded before calling someone that. You also might want to avoid debating hockey with a guy who knew more about the game 20 years ago than you ever will. I truly can't be bothered constantly explaining to you how wrong you are. "The Hawks won't finish above 7th and Giroux is the next Forsberg". You're a hockey genius, or as you'd type it, a hockey genuous. If anyone at this forum is foolish enough to follow your expert advice they deserve to lose their money.

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I said 6th pal

[cecil127]

Let me know when you want them to trade88, again and PS. I dont care if you have 50+ years in hockey history, still don't mean you have all the answers lol so whats that make you, 40's 50's? Wtf are you doing on a forum 24/7 at that age, dont you have a family? kids? grand kids?

what do you expect? his family (kind of a stretch, i know) has probably banned him from using the remote control at his age and are about sick of his constant references to hockey games played 30 & 40 years ago. the internet is his captivated audience where he can really show his stuff. too bad they taught him how to use the scanner

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

Forsberg was a physical force (35 pounds heavier than Giroux) and arguably the best all-around forward after the Wayne and Mario eras. Has Claude ever thrown a bodycheck in the show?

Giroux is a nifty little player but, this is a ridiculous comparison.

you've never seen Mr. Giroux play, right?

And I guess you missed where I wrote Giroux=Forsberg Lite, or did you just conveniently ignore that to make your obtuse point?

[PuckOff]

That's comical.

Maybe it's because you Flyers fans never saw Forsberg anywhere close to his prime in Philly but you're comparing a guy who has been an NHL player for a year and a half (and not even come close to scoring a point a game) to a certain Hall of Famer.

Forsberg was a physical force (35 pounds heavier than Giroux) and arguably the best all-around forward after the Wayne and Mario eras. Has Claude ever thrown a bodycheck in the show?

Giroux is a nifty little player but this is a ridiculous comparison.

I'm a Leaf fan, but I also follow Giroux closely as I traded for him when he was 17 years old in my keeperpool. To compare Giroux to Forsgerg is just wrong. Forsberg was an absolute force when he played especially for the Avs. Very sad that his career was cut short due to a wonky foot.

[PuckOff]

You might want to learn how to spell retarded before calling someone that.

Couldn't agreee more!!!

That's like that picture of the dude with a sign that has moron spelled moran. Too funny.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

To compare Giroux to Forsgerg is just wrong.

you guys must be really, really smart.

because Simon Gagne has compared Giroux to Foppa, and he's played with both:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521319

Now, maybe I'm completely clueless, but I'm inclined to take the word of a proven NHL All-Star over gambling-message-board-posters...

[PuckOff]

My cousin plays in the NHL. He once compared my skating to Paul Coffey's.

[Baxter Man13]

it dont even matter now

flyers are in trouble

boucher is starting for the month of october AND LAPPY is out with post concussion syndrome

going to be a rough month boys

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

boucher is starting for the month of october AND LAPPY is out with post concussion syndrome

going to be a rough month boys

this was the same news going into the playoffs in April. almost exactly the same. no worries.

[Baxter Man13]

this was the same news going into the playoffs in April. almost exactly the same. no worries.

Miracles only come once in a lifetime

To start the season off with boucher is just horrific

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

Miracles only come once in a lifetime

To start the season off with boucher is just horrific

the Flyers mishandling the goalie position doesn't piss me off anymore, it's par-for-the-course. They never learn.

[Baxter Man13]

the Flyers mishandling the goalie position doesn't piss me off anymore, it's par-for-the-course. They never learn.

lol true but I was happy with keeping leighton it was boucher i didnt like keeping.

And now he is starting, and starting against all teams , the penguins....OVER OVER OVER 5.5

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

I truly can't be bothered constantly explaining to you how wrong you are. "The Hawks won't finish above 7th and Giroux is the next Forsberg". You're a hockey genius, or as you'd type it, a hockey genuous. If anyone at this forum is foolish enough to follow your expert advice they deserve to lose their money.

I'm a Leaf fan, but I also follow Giroux closely as I traded for him when he was 17 years old in my keeperpool. To compare Giroux to Forsgerg is just wrong.

what do the experts think?

Is Claude Giroux the next Peter Forsberg?

By Scott Burnside

It wasn't that long ago when former NHLer Keith Jones, now a national broadcast analyst, used to have to initiate discussion about promising young Philadelphia forward Claude Giroux.

Now, those conversations come to Jones.

Hey, did you see what Giroux did now?

Claude Giroux has seven goals and five assists in 12 games so far this season for the Flyers.
"I'll give you one guess about who we're being asked about every night in the press box -- Claude Giroux," Jones told ESPN.com this week. "I'm not surprised. That's the player he's becoming."

Just a month into the NHL season, Giroux has proved to be more than worthy of such discussion with seven goals and 12 points in 12 games. He is tied for the league lead in game-winning goals (three) and leads the NHL in short-handed goals (three). If there were a stat for highlight-reel plays, he'd likely lead the league in that as well. All of which suggests the quiet 22-year-old from Hearst, Ontario, might be emerging as the most talented of a very talented crop of homegrown Flyers players.

Giroux will take a four-game points streak into Thursday's tilt against Atlantic Division foes the New York Rangers, a span during which he's scored four times and added three assists.

Giroux's evolution is interesting, yet not completely unexpected. Yes, there's the indelible image of then-GM Bob Clarke momentarily forgetting Giroux's name at the NHL draft in 2006, when the Flyers chose the forward with the 22nd overall pick. But that's a footnote to what Giroux has achieved in the past calendar year.

When Flyers coach Peter Laviolette arrived mid-last season after a tepid start cost John Stevens his job, Giroux was a complementary player, deep in the shadows cast by sniper Jeff Carter, young captain Mike Richards and top-line veterans Danny Briere, Chris Pronger and Kimmo Timonen.

"He was kind of a second wave of offense. A second wave of help," Laviolette told ESPN.com.

But when the playoffs began and top players Simon Gagne and Carter were out with injuries, it was Giroux who was among a clutch of Flyers who seized the moment. Giroux scored 10 postseason goals and added 11 assists as the Flyers made an unlikely charge to the Stanley Cup finals.

Instead of fading into the background as so often happens to young players who have a spasm of success, Giroux has become the Flyers' go-to guy when they need a big goal.

"He's picked up where he's left off. I just think he's going to become better and better," Laviolette said. "He's become one of those guys who won't really take a backseat to anyone now. He sees the ice as well as anyone on our team."

Here's an indication of how valuable Giroux is to a team that has all the tools to make another long playoff run in the spring. When they are healthy, the Flyers are loaded with talented centers, yet Laviolette generally leaves Giroux at center and moves someone like Carter to the wing. That's not to say Giroux cannot play the wing; he has, at times, moved up to play with Richards when Laviolette thinks the team needs a spark.

But Laviolette's trust in Giroux to win a key faceoff and play smart defensive hockey to get things done at the most important of forward positions is a reflection on the young man's growing maturity.

Jones recalled several Flyers goals this season that directly resulted from Giroux's work in the offensive-zone faceoff circle.

"It shows you that he's always thinking," Jones said. "He can make you look bad."

It was during the latter stages of last season when Jones said he saw Giroux's confidence increasing, saw him willing to take risks offensively without fear it would cost him ice time or positioning on the roster. Those risks were rewarded more often than not, and that confidence has resulted in a point-per-game pace through his past 35 games, including the playoffs.

With his size and deceptive strength, he is extremely difficult to knock off the puck. In fact -- and this is where it gets interesting -- Giroux's play this season reminds Jones of a former teammate, Peter Forsberg.

The idea that Giroux had that kind of potential isn't new. The comparisons came up back in 2008-09, when he had nine goals in 42 games as a rookie call-up from the AHL. But if those early comparisons were wildly premature, Jones said what he sees now suggests they may not be so far off base.

"It's not unrealistic that he could become that good," Jones said. "There are a lot of comparisons to be made. That's how far he's come in a short time."

Laviolette understands that such comparisons are a mug's game. Agree, and maybe the expectations of a player get out of whack; disagree, and maybe you hurt a player's confidence. When asked about Forsberg, the coach notes that, like the great Swede, Giroux is smart defensively and gets the call in all situations.

"Every coach wants a player like [Giroux] on his bench because he's so multifunctional," Laviolette said.

[stevek173]

Is Bobsy the real deal? What a performance tonight.

[dbnmln]

i know it feels weird to have a goalie in net that is playing like BOB right now.

[stevek173]

Seriously. The kid has really been great.

[stevek173]

I am all good with this loss. Sick set up having to go in there playing back to back nights.

Damn good effort to scratch out a point.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

That's comical.

Maybe it's because you Flyers fans never saw Forsberg anywhere close to his prime in Philly but you're comparing a guy who has been an NHL player for a year and a half (and not even come close to scoring a point a game) to a certain Hall of Famer.

Forsberg was a physical force (35 pounds heavier than Giroux) and arguably the best all-around forward after the Wayne and Mario eras. Has Claude ever thrown a bodycheck in the show?

Giroux is a nifty little player but this is a ridiculous comparison.

Flyers ink Giroux to an extension and more hockey people compare his game to Forsberg's. You just keep looking dumber and dumber everyday with this one.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/As-stock-rises-Claude-Giroux-and-Flyers-agree-o;_ylt=AirQZh4uYEYiyTofw6Vhz8x7vLYF?urn=nhl-283536

[whiteout2713]

Is Bobsy the real deal? What a performance tonight.

praying and hoping bob is the real deal. its one thing the flyers have greatly missed is a solid goalie for years. hard to tell if he's just hot or a legit numero uno. he shows remarkable poise for a young kid playing on the big stage for the first time. im interested to see how he responds when he drops a couple games in a row or hits a rough patch

[trade88]

Flyers ink Giroux to an extension and more hockey people compare his game to Forsberg's. You just keep looking dumber and dumber everyday with this one.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-283536

More hockey people? You mean hockey people like the writers who made Mike Green a Norris finalist last year when he's not even close to being a top 10 defenceman in the league? By the way, it's the same source being quoted, Scott Burnside, so this is "more people" lol.

I said Giroux's a good little player and plays NOTHING like Forsberg. Here's a little tip for you dipshyt... if some clueless reporter sticks a mic in Simon Gagne's face and asks him if he thinks Giroux's like Forsberg, Gagne is going to say sure and wait for the next dumb question. WTF do you expect him to say when asked this?

Go back and watch his 100+ playoff games from '96-'02 and then come back here and try and make this comparison. I watched every one of those games while you were probably at band camp.

[whiteout2713]

okay. giroux might not be forsberg's damn clone but what i think people are referring to is giroux vision with the puck, ability to make plays, and the fact that he has been pretty clutch when counted on just like forsberg used to be

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

More hockey people? You mean hockey people like the writers who made Mike Green a Norris finalist last year when he's not even close to being a top 10 defenceman in the league? By the way, it's the same source being quoted, Scott Burnside, so this is "more people" lol.

I said Giroux's a good little player and plays NOTHING like Forsberg. Here's a little tip for you dipshyt... if some clueless reporter sticks a mic in Simon Gagne's face and asks him if he thinks Giroux's like Forsberg, Gagne is going to say sure and wait for the next dumb question. WTF do you expect him to say when asked this?

Go back and watch his 100+ playoff games from '96-'02 and then come back here and try and make this comparison. I watched every one of those games while you were probably at band camp.

are you mad because you're wrong?

btw, no reporter asked this of Gagne. He offered it himself. You would know that, if you actually read what was posted

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

I actually have to revist this post because of how completely wrong almost everything typed is. Let's take a peek:

More hockey people? You mean hockey people like the writers who made Mike Green a Norris finalist last year when he's not even close to being a top 10 defenceman in the league?

irrelevant, means nothing, and oh yeah, Mike Green has 11 points in 13 games and is a +8.

By the way, it's the same source being quoted, Scott Burnside, so this is "more people" lol.

No, it's not just Burnside. They reference Sam Carchidi's article in the first few lines. Wrong.

Here's a little tip for you dipshyt... if some clueless reporter sticks a mic in Simon Gagne's face and asks him if he thinks Giroux's like Forsberg, Gagne is going to say sure and wait for the next dumb question. WTF do you expect him to say when asked this?

Never happened. Wrong again. Gagne only played with both guys, so he must have no clue what he's talking about, right?

Go back and watch his 100+ playoff games from '96-'02 and then come back here and try and make this comparison. I watched every one of those games while you were probably at band camp.

Saw a lot of them. Giroux=Forsberg Lite, as I originally stated.

keep it up though, I am entertained by your ignorance and lack of reading comprehension skills.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

Actually, the Giroux/Forsberg comparisons may be a little off base, I admit.

Claude is developing into a much better goal scorer that Foppa ever was. He's on pace for 45 this season and Peter never scored more than 30...

[dbnmln]

what a laugh of a game last night....friggen baseball score..hahahah

I didn't get to watch the flyboys, but where the hell was the D.

[stevek173]

3 straight TB goals to finish it really pissed me off. The fuckign goal line was covering before that.

In Washington tomorrow night so it doesn't get any easier.

I predict our next win will be at home Monday vs Montreal, but I would NOT bet on it with how sick price is now.

[stevek173]

What a great win last night! Statement win indeed, i did not see that coming. Could have done without the late collapse but only the 2 points in the toughest venue in the league counts.

Nice one. Salud.

[stevek173]

BIG game tonight for tops in the league.

There will be bloodshed in Philly tonight.

Go Flyboys!

[keyboarding]

It'll be interesting to see if Pronger can stop Crosby. Other than VAN who was the first win on PIT's streak, they haven't faced any real competition.

[lakerboy]

BIG game tonight for tops in the league.

There will be bloodshed in Philly tonight.

Go Flyboys!

Steve will we beat the pens tonight? I sure hope so but they always play so well in philly the last few years. Seems like we hardly ever beat them at home. Go flyers.

[keyboarding]

Steve will we beat the pens tonight? I sure hope so but they always play so well in philly the last few years. Seems like we hardly ever beat them at home. Go flyers.

I read you were Canadian, how'd you become a Flyers fan? And yes, I do believe everything I read on the Internet.

I think PHI gets it done tonight against PIT, I just don't get how Crosby is going to get it all done on his own tonight. Pronger is going to mash his face in the boards every chance he gets. Hopefully he isn't over the hill. We find out tonight, I guess.

[lakerboy]

I read you were Canadian, how'd you become a Flyers fan? And yes, I do believe everything I read on the Internet.

I think PHI gets it done tonight against PIT, I just don't get how Crosby is going to get it all done on his own tonight. Pronger is going to mash his face in the boards every chance he gets. Hopefully he isn't over the hill. We find out tonight, I guess.

hope you are right . first hockey gmae i watched was between flyers and caps and ended up in a bench clearing brawl and the flyers kicked the crap out of the caps players and i said thats my team. lots of philly fans in the GTA. big following down here and its always electric when flyers come into TO and play the leafs.