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  • Maxmillion
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    • 05-18-10
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    #71
    Originally posted by freelee
    so is this why there aren't more starting white running backs in the NFL?
    because they are not good enough for the most part, dont ask me why but thats just how it is...... and like i said above the pool of black qbs is small is because they may not be good enough to play qb at a high level but i dont think its due to skin color. but if you had more black kids playing qb at a younger age in hs and whatever you may get better black qbs like your mcnabbs, moons etc.
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    • jayroy25
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      • 11-18-09
      • 1578

      #72
      Next thread please
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      • jayroy25
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        • 11-18-09
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        #73
        Although has been decades since black qb won sb
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        • muldoon
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          • 01-04-10
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          #74
          Originally posted by freelee
          Don't be mad bro just pointing out some facts
          The fact that you

          (A) took the time to tally up these stats
          (B) Posted this as some sort of "hmnm...what do you think" thread

          Speaks volumes. Don't forget to add starch to the hood in the dryer.
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          • freelee
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            • 02-02-10
            • 751

            #75
            Originally posted by muldoon
            The fact that you

            (A) took the time to tally up these stats
            (B) Posted this as some sort of "hmnm...what do you think" thread

            Speaks volumes. Don't forget to add starch to the hood in the dryer.

            I still don't understand why it's considered racist. Do you consider everyone racist who thinks black running backs are superior to white running backs because if so i think about 90+% of the world is racist.
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            • OldSchool75
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              • 08-22-10
              • 155

              #76
              Originally posted by freelee
              I still don't understand why it's considered racist. Do you consider everyone racist who thinks black running backs are superior to white running backs because if so i think about 90+% of the world is racist.
              Racism is what sissy liberals cry when the truth of the matter of race is unflattering for the minority or minorities invloved. They've been using these tactics for decades. If the subject of race is involved and the minority will or will likely appear inferior when the results are gathered....the liberal will attempt to twist the argument by hurling ad hominem's (or a personal attack against the man). It's a way to deflect the real issue and to try to scare the person who is making the case, into not broaching the issue again. The person who rails against truth brought to the surface, does so because of inner-weakness.


              "I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken
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              • Preston09
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                • 05-19-09
                • 1834

                #77
                Anyone considering this racist is out of there mind...
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                • teaserpleaser
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                  • 08-14-08
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                  #78
                  maximillion touched on it the pool of black high school QBs is large but when they get to D-1 because they are many times the best athlete on the team Like Lsu russell shepperd or VT tyrod Taylor These guys get asked to play wr,rb, cb because of their speed. Some of the dont have the strongest arms see pat white and russ shep. But so say they cant play QB is silly. i wonder how many of you are on jacory Harris and the canes vs pitt?
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                  • teaserpleaser
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                    #79
                    since we are talking about racism

                    Is it racist that i look like this everytime Byu plays florida st or TCU? 1) because i dont really care for mormans 2) I know i can win a good chunk of cash because its a bunch of fast brothas vs a bunch of slow somoans, Tongans, and white guys. If you watched the games the last few years you know what im talking about. Is that racist?
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                    • Patrick McIrish
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                      • 09-15-05
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                      #80
                      If you think an entire race of people aren't smart enough to play QB based on the color of their skin then yes you're a racist. A fuc-king idiot to boot.
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                      • teaserpleaser
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                        • 08-14-08
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                        #81
                        im almost sure an sbr poster sent it to Jacory

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                        Updated: September 19, 2010, 4:17 PM ET
                        Jacory Harris gets hate message
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                        CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Miami quarterback Jacory Harris said he received at least one racially motivated hate message following the Hurricanes' loss to Ohio State last weekend.

                        Harris said Sunday he received at least one comment on Twitter from someone saying the Hurricanes should not have "a black quarterback," making the revelation five days after the school told its football players to discontinue using the social messaging site.

                        "Not really worried about it," Harris said. "I know people say things like that. It's part of the sport. Got to get used to it."

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                        Harris did not divulge exactly what was written or the sender's identity. He said he could not recall if the tweet contained any threats, and his Twitter account was deleted last week. The tweet he cited could not be found when searching Harris' former username Sunday.

                        It's far from the first time that racially insensitive comments have been directed toward Harris, who is black.

                        "It's flat-out wrong," Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt said. "It's sad. It's disappointing. In a position that we celebrate, living in one of the most diverse communities in our nation, to have this type of behavior is appalling. It's not tolerable. Jacory is a very talented young man. We'll just continue on focusing to do the right things and rise above these type of comments."

                        No. 19 Miami (1-1) visits Pittsburgh (1-1) on Thursday night. Harris threw four interceptions, matching a career-worst, in Miami's 36-24 loss to Ohio State on Sept. 11.

                        Harris used Twitter on Wednesday to apologize to fans for that performance, and said he skipped through many of the messages he received because they were mainly negative.

                        "You see some things and you get kind of hurt, because sometimes it's your fans that say the things," Harris said. "It'll be the ones that probably just before the game wrote you some encouraging message, then after the game say they don't want a black quarterback here. Stuff like that. It's cool."

                        Miami coach Randy Shannon told The Associated Press that the Twitter ban had "nothing" to do with the comment Harris received. Later, Shannon added that while it was "disappointing" that Harris was the subject of such reaction, the coach -- a Miami native and Miami graduate -- said he believes the school has "a tremendous fan base."

                        "We choose to focus on those positives rather than one individual, who chooses to make such ignorant comments," Shannon said. "It's sad that Jacory would be exposed to those types of statements. They have no place in our society and are not tolerated at the University of Miami."

                        In his weekly interview session with reporters, Harris said at least three different times that he was not letting the comments affect him, and urged media covering the team to take the same approach.

                        "It's happened before, but it's nothing that I'm worried about," Harris said. "I'm not worried about it, so you guys shouldn't be worried about it. I'm OK with it. It's not a problem. Not with me."

                        His teammates, however, clearly had a problem with the issue.

                        "Hearing something like that, coming here to a diverse school, you would think we're past that," said defensive lineman Marcus Forston, who was Harris' high school teammate at Miami Northwestern High. "That's in the past. We all came to this school together. We've got a diverse locker room, and in there, you don't want to hear anything like that."

                        Added linebacker Jordan Futch: "We're going to take it with a grain of salt and make it a positive thing. So they're saying that we don't need that type of quarterback or they're saying we're not good enough or that we're supposed to be winning championships? It's because we are supposed to be doing that."

                        Miami is the only BCS school in the country with black coaches for football (Shannon) and men's basketball (Frank Haith).

                        Harris said he's trying to center his energies around getting ready for Pittsburgh, not on the anonymous comments from fans, whether it was of the positive or negative variety.

                        "It is disheartening. It's something that you look it and it kind of brings you to tears, a little bit," Harris said. "But at the same time, you know it's just a comment. Nothing else will be taken after that. There will be no steps taken after that. That's his opinion. That's that person's opinion. Got to live with it."
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                        • freelee
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                          • 02-02-10
                          • 751

                          #82
                          nobody is arguing that the entire race can't or shouldn't play quarterback just that they are inferior when compared to white quarterbacks do you consider
                          this racist or do you think they're exactly equal? Do you also believe white running backs are exactly equal when compared to black running backs?
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                          • freelee
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                            • 02-02-10
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                            #83
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                            • lyon804
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                              • 11-02-09
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by OldSchool75
                              Racism is what sissy liberals cry when the truth of the matter of race is unflattering for the minority or minorities invloved. They've been using these tactics for decades. If the subject of race is involved and the minority will or will likely appear inferior when the results are gathered....the liberal will attempt to twist the argument by hurling ad hominem's (or a personal attack against the man). It's a way to deflect the real issue and to try to scare the person who is making the case, into not broaching the issue again. The person who rails against truth brought to the surface, does so because of inner-weakness.


                              "I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken



                              100% true. I have tried to have a normal discussion here about similar things and it always turns to some left wing nut job like Muldoon twising it. It is what it is. Nice quote at the bottom btw..couldn't agree more.
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                              • Maxmillion
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                                #85
                                some people incorrectly jump to conclusions when you say that maybe black guys dont make great nfl qbs that you are somehow saying that black people are not as smart as white people. dumb conclusion but some people make it.
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                                • freelee
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                                  • 02-02-10
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Preston09
                                  Anyone considering this racist is out of there mind...
                                  I think a lot of people just don't understand what racism actually is
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                                  • freelee
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                                    • 02-02-10
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Maxmillion
                                    some people incorrectly jump to conclusions when you say that maybe black guys dont make great nfl qbs that you are somehow saying that black people are not as smart as white people. dumb conclusion but some people make it.

                                    yeah and some people probably concluded that i think whites are slower than blacks because i stated that blacks make better running backs
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                                    • freelee
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                                      • 02-02-10
                                      • 751

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                      Is it racist that i look like this everytime Byu plays florida st or TCU? 1) because i dont really care for mormans 2) I know i can win a good chunk of cash because its a bunch of fast brothas vs a bunch of slow somoans, Tongans, and white guys. If you watched the games the last few years you know what im talking about. Is that racist?

                                      of course that's not racist because you had a reason for doing it besides race it's the same reason why the line is huge when a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning play a jamarcuss Russell or donovan mcnabb the odd makers aren't racist just smart
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                                      • Maxmillion
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                                        • 05-18-10
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by freelee
                                        I think a lot of people just don't understand what racism actually is
                                        my grandmom grew up in north carolina in the 40s, 50s and 60s racisim yes, someone says that jamarcus russell and charlie batch suck ass racisim no.
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                                        • Patrick McIrish
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                                          • 09-15-05
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by freelee
                                          nobody is arguing that the entire race can't or shouldn't play quarterback just that they are inferior when compared to white quarterbacks do you consider
                                          this racist or do you think they're exactly equal? Do you also believe white running backs are exactly equal when compared to black running backs?


                                          I'd be the last guy to ask that question, I see football players. I don't watch the game to see what positions black and white guys can play better, I let go of that crap a long time ago. A guy can play or he can't play, doesn't matter to me what color his skin is.
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                                          • Patrick McIrish
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                                            • 09-15-05
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by freelee
                                            I think a lot of people just don't understand what racism actually is


                                            Indeed.
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                                            • THEGREAT30
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                                              • 10-04-08
                                              • 8970

                                              #92
                                              Shock post, attention whore post, what should this foolishness be referred to as?
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                                              • Grind House
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                                                • 01-01-10
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                                                #93
                                                For whoever thinks whites are more intelligent than any other race is ignorant to no repair. Just because you throw up some tainted and slanted numbers done by some institution doesn't mean they're correct. That's just like saying blacks make up the majority of welfare when we know it's more poor white trash eating off it more than anybody. Whoever started this thread knows their intentions with this conversation, and got exactly what he was looking for. It's always gonna be racism and I hope it never dies.
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                                                • freelee
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-02-10
                                                  • 751

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by THEGREAT30
                                                  Shock post, attention whore post, what should this foolishness be referred to as?

                                                  a truthful thread that many people seem to have trouble accepting
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                                                  • Maxmillion
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                                                    • 05-18-10
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Grind House
                                                    For whoever thinks whites are more intelligent than any other race is ignorant to no repair. Just because you throw up some tainted and slanted numbers done by some institution doesn't mean they're correct. That's just like saying blacks make up the majority of welfare when we know it's more poor white trash eating off it more than anybody. Whoever started this thread knows their intentions with this conversation, and got exactly what he was looking for. It's always gonna be racism and I hope it never dies.
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                                                    • freelee
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-02-10
                                                      • 751

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Grind House
                                                      For whoever thinks whites are more intelligent than any other race is ignorant to no repair. Just because you throw up some tainted and slanted numbers done by some institution doesn't mean they're correct. That's just like saying blacks make up the majority of welfare when we know it's more poor white trash eating off it more than anybody. Whoever started this thread knows their intentions with this conversation, and got exactly what he was looking for. It's always gonna be racism and I hope it never dies.

                                                      Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:

                                                      Traits of families on AFDC (1)Race--------------White 38.8% Black 37.2 Hispanic 17.8 Asian 2.8 Other 3.4 only about 12% of america is black yet over 37% of the welfare recipients are black sorry but the numbers aren't racist
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                                                      • freelee
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                                                        • 02-02-10
                                                        • 751

                                                        #97
                                                        Patrick McIrish quick without looking it up for 24 SBR points what is donovan mcnabb's skin color?
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                                                        • thechaoz
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                                                          • 10-23-09
                                                          • 12154

                                                          #98
                                                          To me, McNair was the closest to have the attributes of a potential superbowl quarterback. He had a chance vs the Rams. The problem is too many black QB's get into the Vick mode of running around and not learning to throw from the pocket. Works GREAT in college but in the NFL every CB, DB, Safety and most linebackers are just as fast if not faster then you.

                                                          Like I said in a Vick thread, running around will win you a few games, couple more first downs etc. It will NOT win you a Super Bowl or most playoff games.
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                                                          • freelee
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                                                            • 02-02-10
                                                            • 751

                                                            #99
                                                            White QB team
                                                            Tom Brady W 21-27 252 yards 3 tds 0 ints 142.6 4 car 6 yards 1.5 av
                                                            Drew Brees L 30-38 365 yards 3 tds 2 ints 111.1 0 car
                                                            Peyton Manning W 27-43 325 yards 3 tds 0 ints 109.2 0 car
                                                            Aaron Rodgers L 34-45 316 yards 1 td 1 int 92.5 2 car 20 yds 1 td 10.0
                                                            Philip Rivers L 29-53 455 yards 2 tds 2 ints 80.3 1 car 2 yds 2.0 avg
                                                            Tony Romo W 23-30 284 yards 2 tds 0 ints 127.6 0 car
                                                            Jay Cutler W 16-27 221 yards 1 td 1 int 82.5 3 car 37 yds 12.3 avg
                                                            Matt Ryan W 19-30 228 yards 2 tds 0 ints 108.8 6 car 26 yds 4.3 av


                                                            vs

                                                            Black QB team
                                                            Donovan Mcnabb L 19-32 236 yards 1 td 1 int 79.7 2 car 25 yards 12.5 avg
                                                            Josh Freeman L 20-31 184 yard 0 tds 1 int 67.1 6 car 15 yds 2.5
                                                            Michael Vick W 17-31 291 yards 3 tds 0 ints 119.2 4 car 30 yds 1 td
                                                            Vince Young W 10-16 118 yards 1 td 0 ints 105.7 3 car 6 yards 2.0 avg
                                                            David Garrard L 13-30 105 yards 0 td 1 int 38.9 8 car 23 yds 2.9 avg
                                                            Seneca Wallace L 18-24 141 yards 1 td 0 int 103 1 car 0 yards 0 avg
                                                            Charlie Batch W 12-17 186 yards 3 tds 2 ints 106.5 5 car 26 yards 5.2
                                                            Jason Campbell L 0-0 0 yards 0 tds 0 ints 0.0 0 car 0 yards 0 tds


                                                            White RB team

                                                            Toby Gerhart W 3 car 12 yards 0 tds 4.0 avg
                                                            Peyton Hillis L 22 car 144 yards 1 td 6.5 avg
                                                            Brian Leonard W 3 car 16 yards 0 td 5.3 avg
                                                            Jacob Hester L 0 car 0 yards 0 tds 0.0 avg
                                                            Justin Fargas L 0 car 0 yards 0 tds 0.0 avg
                                                            Donald Brown W 7 car 12 yards 0 tds 1.7 avg
                                                            Rashard Mendenhall W 19 car 143 yards 1 td 7.5 avg
                                                            Danny Woodead W 3 car 42 yards 1 td 14.0 avg

                                                            vs

                                                            Black RB team

                                                            Chris Johnson W 32 car 125 yards 2 tds 3.9 avg
                                                            Adrian Peterson W 23 car 160 yards 2 tds 7.0 avg
                                                            Ray Rice W 15 car 80 yards 0 tds 5.3 avg
                                                            Maurice Jones Drew L 22 car 88 yards 0 tds 4.0 avg
                                                            Frank Gore L 15 car 43 yards 0 tds 2.9 avg
                                                            Steven Jackson W 10 car 58 yards 1 td 5.8 avg
                                                            Michael Turner W 30 car 114 yards 1 td 3.8 avg
                                                            Matt Forte W 11 car 29 yards 0 tds 2.6 avg
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                                                            • freelee
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                                                              • 02-02-10
                                                              • 751

                                                              #100
                                                              TOTALS

                                                              White QB Team 5-3

                                                              Black QB Team 3-5

                                                              White Team 2446 yards 16 TD's 6 INT's 106.8 QB rating

                                                              Black Team 1261 yards 9 TD's 5 INT's 88.6 QB rating


                                                              White Team 16 carries 91 yards 5.7 avg. 1 TD

                                                              Black Team 29 carries 125 yards 4.3 avg. 1 TD
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                                                              • scarp
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                                                                • 01-12-10
                                                                • 697

                                                                #101
                                                                Just like every RB is black.... not sure what your post about white qb's is suppose to mean
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                                                                • freelee
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                                                                  • 02-02-10
                                                                  • 751

                                                                  #102
                                                                  TOTALS

                                                                  White RB Team 5-3

                                                                  Black RB Team 6-2

                                                                  White team 57 carries 369 yards 6.5 avg 3 tds

                                                                  Black team 158 carries 697 yards 4.4 avg 6 tds
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                                                                  • freelee
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                                                                    • 02-02-10
                                                                    • 751

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by scarp
                                                                    Just like every RB is black.... not sure what your post about white qb's is suppose to mean

                                                                    that's exactly my point
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                                                                    • DDT
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                                                                      • 03-22-09
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      This reminds me of a theory I learned in school.....BQB=L
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                                                                      • freelee
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                                                                        • 02-02-10
                                                                        • 751

                                                                        #105
                                                                        so after the first week of tracking this it appears i may have been wrong about the white running backs maybe they are being unfairly discriminated against because of their skin color the top white running backs had a much higher avg than the top black running backs but many less carries we'll see if this trend continues
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