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  • exstatman
    SBR MVP
    • 11-02-06
    • 1060

    #1
    Shame on Bookmaker/BetCRIS
    How can anyone post a 30 cent line on a Super Bowl prop involving the coin flip?

    COIN TOSS WILL LAND HEADS OR TAILS
    3:30 PM2 /03 /08
    # Money Line
    23029 COIN LANDS HEAD -115
    23030 COIN LANDS TAILS -115
    TEAM TO WIN THE COIN TOSS
    3:30 PM2 /03 /08
    # Money Line
    23031 GIANTS WIN COIN TOSS -115
    23032 PATS WIN COIN TOSS -115

    I'm sure they must have a very low limit on this to prevent a big hit, right
  • pokernut9999
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-25-07
    • 12757

    #2
    Because idiots will bet it.
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    • bigloser
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-19-06
      • 787

      #3
      Wonder if the public has a bias on this?
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      • exstatman
        SBR MVP
        • 11-02-06
        • 1060

        #4
        What, -110 isn't high enough? This is one prop that factually is 50/50, so at -110, anyone would go broke eventually.
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        • exstatman
          SBR MVP
          • 11-02-06
          • 1060

          #5
          Originally posted by bigloser
          Wonder if the public has a bias on this?
          Actually, HEADS was -130 for awhile yesterday, believe it or not.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82839

            #6
            Does anyone have the stats from previous supebowls? Is the AFC or NFC winning more tosses?
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            • pokernut9999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-25-07
              • 12757

              #7
              Originally posted by bigloser
              Wonder if the public has a bias on this?
              Word on the street is the public will push heads to -150 before game time.
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22291

                #8
                gameday made the opposite mistake. they have the cointoss and ball first props and even money, dan then you get loyalty points for betting them. So now what you do is every bet you make you parlay half the bet to heads and parlay half to tails and make an extra couple bucks every play.
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                • Doug
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 6324

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rm18
                  gameday made the opposite mistake. they have the cointoss and ball first props and even money, dan then you get loyalty points for betting them. So now what you do is every bet you make you parlay half the bet to heads and parlay half to tails and make an extra couple bucks every play.

                  same result

                  110=100 straight

                  or

                  -110 with +100 parlays

                  55=155 twice

                  155-55=100, same as straight, lose 110 or win 100.
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                  • rm18
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-20-05
                    • 22291

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Doug
                    same result

                    110=100 straight

                    or

                    -110 with +100 parlays

                    55=155 twice

                    155-55=100, same as straight, lose 110 or win 100.

                    your right about that, but you can still parlay giants with heads, pats with heads, pats with tails, and giants with tails, win one break even, and pick up the loyalty points.

                    Also I guess you don't pick up extra loyalty points but it is a pretty nice way to circumvent the limits if they cut you as well.
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                    • Doug
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 6324

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rm18
                      your right about that, but you can still parlay giants with heads, pats with heads, pats with tails, and giants with tails, win one break even, and pick up the loyalty points.

                      Also I guess you don't pick up extra loyalty points but it is a pretty nice way to circumvent the limits if they cut you as well.

                      55=155 4 times

                      win 155
                      lose 55X3= 165

                      lose 10
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                      • rm18
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-20-05
                        • 22291

                        #12
                        no there are 2 different sets of +100/+100 lines, you parlay them to each other at 3/1 for 4 combinations and pick up the loyalty points

                        Heads vs Tails
                        02/03/2008
                        18:00 000 Heads (100)
                        000 Tails (100)
                        Team to Win Coin Toss
                        02/03/2008
                        18:00 000 Giants (100)
                        000 Patriots (100)
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                        • picantel
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-17-05
                          • 4338

                          #13
                          Tough decision choosing between head and tail.
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                          • Cabo
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-07-06
                            • 5273

                            #14
                            I'll take tails, but I'm not betting.
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                            • Doug
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 6324

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rm18
                              no there are 2 different sets of +100/+100 lines, you parlay them to each other at 3/1 for 4 combinations and pick up the loyalty points

                              Heads vs Tails
                              02/03/2008
                              18:00 000 Heads (100)
                              000 Tails (100)
                              Team to Win Coin Toss
                              02/03/2008
                              18:00 000 Giants (100)
                              000 Patriots (100)
                              That would work then, but the lines may not be parlayable, you may piss off the book, gain is small, it may have limits. Probably not worth it.
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                              • Red_Sux
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-25-07
                                • 1262

                                #16
                                props are 30 cents lines. that is the standard for those books.

                                i doubt the line will move, but if one side get plus money for some reason, i'll bet the limit on that.
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                                • magnavox
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-14-05
                                  • 575

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Red_Sux
                                  props are 30 cents lines. that is the standard for those books.

                                  i doubt the line will move, but if one side get plus money for some reason, i'll bet the limit on that.
                                  It happened many times before.
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                                  • MoneySportsGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-09-07
                                    • 4891

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by picantel
                                    Tough decision choosing between head and tail.
                                    hahaha that is a good one man





                                    I say heads, but you know, .30 is a bit too much for my wagers. I typically like to wager about .10 so you know that is a little high.
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                                    • pokernut9999
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-25-07
                                      • 12757

                                      #19
                                      VIP has both sides at even money.
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        Beted has -125 each way on the coin toss...outrageous!
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