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Moss vs Packman in battle of the battered women
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pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#1Moss vs Packman in battle of the battered womenTags: None -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#2Moss charges look like bull shitComment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#4Actually, it's not that clearcut. The woman had her attorney threaten Moss over the course of the last couple weeks, demanding a six figure payday. So, if she were truly abused, I have to believe she'd press charges or go to the police right away.
Moss was undoubtedly advised by his legal team to make an official statement, but you can be damn sure his attorney didn't want him answering questions. Still, Moss came back and answered questions after he said he wasn't going to. He really comes off as genuine in this one, and I wouldn't be quick to condemn him. Sounds like a gold-digging ho is after some cash over what's probably something blown way, way out of proportion.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#5
Seems genuine to me.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#6FOXBOROUGH – After giving an initial statement today and saying he would not be answering questions from reporters, WR Randy Moss changed his mind and ultimately took questions.
Some of the Q&A:
(On his thoughts regarding this issue)
“It’s unfair to athletes if a person makes a false claim. You know, there is nothing we can do. The only thing we can do is either pay up or sit back and listen to what’s been said or what’s being written. I can honestly say I am a … I don’t know what the word is to use … that’s what position I’m in. For someone to make a false claim about me, I’m kind furious. It kind of hurts me deep inside for someone to do something like that, because I’ve always said time and time again that I am going to stand up for what’s right. If I’m right, I’m right. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. And that’s where you have your attorneys, your friends, so when you’re wrong someone can tell you you’re wrong. You know what I mean? My situation is where I felt that I did nothing wrong. It was an accident. Whatever happened, it was an accident. I wish I could sit here and yell you all what happened. But there is a lawsuit or whatever is been coming against me, I can’t really explain or tell you all what is going on. All I want to say is that I’m going to continue to play football. I think that last Friday, this man wanted to come out with it, to try to distract the team and distract me. You know what I’m saying? There was much more said, a lot of verbal, a lot of cuss words, a lot of things that I should be doing – ‘you better do this or else, you better do this or else’ – well, I thought it was bad because now you’re threatening me. So I brought it to Coach and said ‘Look Coach, I’m being threatened to do something that I have no idea of what I need to be doing.’ I was advised to just focus on playing football and then I’ll handle this once the season is over. Whenever the season is over, I plan on sitting down and really getting to the bottom of this. Right now, I have a job to do.”
One report indicated you hurt her hand…
“I’m not really getting into that. I just told you guys, I mean, I don’t want to get in trouble for anything I might say that I’m not supposed to say when it comes to an attorney and a client. There is a lot of things I want to sit here and tell you guys to prove my innocence. But for the fact there is an investigation going on …”
Is she making up this story?
“You do your homework. Like I told you, there are a lot of things I want to sit here and tell everyone sitting here flashing, with all these microphones. I’m not trying to be funny about the situation, because this is a serious matter. What I’m saying is that it’s unfair to us as athletes that when a situation like this occurs, it’s up to you guys to make an assumption. Is this guy or this girl telling the truth? Or are they lying?”Comment -
BrentCrudeSBR MVP
- 11-16-05
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#7Why do athletes put themselves in these positions?
I'll never understand why athletes put themselves in the position of being accused of this kind of stuff.The risk and reward factor is so lopsided where any normal minded person would not risk going to some club or even coming in contact with bitches,ho's,pimps,homeys,bimbos,dudes,m an whores etc.
When you are an athlete you are placed on such a high pedastal for no good reason where you think the world is some playground provided to you where you possibly can't be falsely accused because the table has been set for you where you are just supposed to be adored and revered by your subjects.Comment -
Yung MulaSBR Rookie
- 12-25-07
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#8Pull a Randy Moss, pull a Randy Mosssssss.Comment -
isetcapSBR MVP
- 12-16-05
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#9As long as the woman isn't a traffic agent trying to do her job, then there is no precedent for Moss being abusive.Comment -
isetcapSBR MVP
- 12-16-05
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#11
But I have to admit that same side of me can see a fractional amount of logic in displacing a traffic agent whose primary concern in life is preventing you from making a late-night u-turn.Comment -
picantelSBR MVP
- 09-17-05
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#12I'll never understand why athletes put themselves in the position of being accused of this kind of stuff.The risk and reward factor is so lopsided where any normal minded person would not risk going to some club or even coming in contact with bitches,ho's,pimps,homeys,bimbos,dudes,m an whores etc.
When you are an athlete you are placed on such a high pedastal for no good reason where you think the world is some playground provided to you where you possibly can't be falsely accused because the table has been set for you where you are just supposed to be adored and revered by your subjects.Comment -
astro61200SBR MVP
- 09-15-07
- 4843
#13Can Moss make it rain?
That is the questionComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#14Looks like BS
Don't forget these guys pick trash for girlfriends, friends, ect
These are not polished peopleComment -
picoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-05-07
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#15second that. moss don't seem that type of guy who consider personal character when he want to **** a girl, so it is probably given some one will try to extort money from him.
i wouldn't be suprised if he really hit her...because the NFL players have such good reputations. in america you are innocent until you're proven guilty, the burden of the proof is on her. if the only evidence is her words against his, then there will be no case at all.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#16Moss loves women so much that when he was playing in Minnessota he tried to run them over with his car. He has as much credibility as OJ and Packman. He is treated differently because the league doesn't want to tarnish the image its marquee team.Comment -
picoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-05-07
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#17if you're talented like him, you deserve a break. america worship sports stars, so those women who **** him just because he is a star wide receiver won't get any sympathy from me. it is their own fault to choose a NFL player.Comment -
swede96SBR MVP
- 12-05-07
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#18I can't get past the fact that she didn't go to the cops first. If a man ever hit me, my first stop would be the police station to press charges and have my injuries documented. As far as I know, she's not after criminal charges, she's after money. If he had really hit her, she could have pressed charges and followed up with a civil suit for her pay day...but no, she just wants the cash. That fact in and of itself speaks volumes.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#19Friedberg: Moss accuser sought $500,000
January 17th, 2008 – 8:04 AM by Kevin Seifert
Local defense attorney Joe Friedberg, who remains part of New England WR Randy Moss’ legal team, is telling multiple media outlets that the woman who sought a restraining order against Moss asked him for $500,000 last week to keep the story quiet. Moss refused, and the story surfaced on a Florida radio station Wednesday.
Friedberg represented Moss in 2002 following the now-infamous TrafficCopGate incident in downtown Minneapolis. Friedberg is not licensed to practice in Florida, where the incident happened, but he told KFAN Radio (1130-AM) that he is helping Moss secure local counsel in Florida.
Moss is being accused of injuring the woman, whom he has been friends with for 11 years, and denying her medical aid. Friedberg, however, called the accident a result of “consensual horseplay” between Moss and the victim.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#20Friedberg, however, called the accident a result of “consensual horseplay” between Moss and the victim.
Is there a chance that this guy is not lawyer?
Violence against women should not be tolerated.
I'm pretty sure Moss told the woman something like this. Hey, I'm watching ultimating fighting on TV. Will you like to come over and practice some moves? Then they start punching each other and she's left with a bruise. Is this a fair definition of consensual horseplay?Comment -
picoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-05-07
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#21Friedberg, however, called the accident a result of “consensual horseplay” between Moss and the victim.
Is there a chance that this guy is not lawyer?
Violence against women should not be tolerated.
I'm pretty sure Moss told the woman something like this. Hey, I'm watching ultimating fighting on TV. Will you like to come over and practice some moves? Then they start punching each other and she's left with a bruise. Is this a fair definition of consensual horseplay?Comment -
swede96SBR MVP
- 12-05-07
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#22Hey, I've play wrestled with boyfriends (and boys that are friends before). Once, my ex was tickling me and I fell off the couch and hit my head on the coffee table...got a decent egg on my head from it. I don't consider that abuse. He felt terrible. I've also told my BF to slap my ass and ended up with a welt. Again, not abuse.
If this woman was a friend, she wouldn't be trying to get money out of him.
If she was abused, she'd be filing criminal charges.
If he didn't do this, I feel really sorry for him. Getting screwed over by someone who has been a friend for over a decade has to hurt.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#23Hey, I've play wrestled with boyfriends (and boys that are friends before). Once, my ex was tickling me and I fell off the couch and hit my head on the coffee table...got a decent egg on my head from it. I don't consider that abuse. He felt terrible. I've also told my BF to slap my ass and ended up with a welt. Again, not abuse.
If this woman was a friend, she wouldn't be trying to get money out of him.
If she was abused, she'd be filing criminal charges.
If he didn't do this, I feel really sorry for him. Getting screwed over by someone who has been a friend for over a decade has to hurt.Comment -
swede96SBR MVP
- 12-05-07
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#24Why? Why bring that into here?
So there has been a battery charge filed? How long did she wait to file it?Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#25$500k payday for THAT?
It's really hard to talk about this kind of situation without coming across racist, but you guys know what I mean. We all know what kind of woman this is, and what she's after. Probably has four kids, three deadbeat dads, has known Randy for 11 years and used to bang him routinely when he'd be on the road away from his wife.
They had a connection, but her once vibrant personality has faded and she's withered into a cold person, who doesn't feel oh so "special" anymore when Randy comes to tap that ass. She starts to re-evaluate, thinking, you know what LaQuisha... that mothafukka comes here and gets what he wants all the time, and you just lay down fo him gal!!! U needtza start lookin out fo yo mudgkafukkin self fo realz!!! So she scrapes the hard end of a toothbrush inside of her rectum enough to cut but not noticeably, and demands Randy plow that ass when he's over, he's probably hung like a mule anyway so they get down to it and she gets cut open even more and demands to go to the hospital. Randy insists she doesn't and they fall asleep after smoking a blunt. The end.Comment -
swede96SBR MVP
- 12-05-07
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#26
For the record, I may not have taken it that far, but we all know that kind of girl. It isn't even a race thing. There are people of all races that feel entitled to easy money and don't care who they step on to get it.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#27The plot thickens..
The attorney representing Rachelle Washington, who filed a temporary restraining order against Randy Moss, released a statement today:
"For the past 11 years, Ms. Washington has cared deeply for Mr. Moss and has been there for him throughout all of his trials and tribulations. However, she refuses to be further disrespected by him. It has never been her intention to hurt Mr. Moss in any way. However, she has suffered mental and physical harm as a result of his actions. She simply wants him to take responsibility for what he has done. As a battery victim, she has shown great strength throughout this entire ordeal.
"Ms. Washington has been unfairly characterized as someone simply seeking financial gain. In fact, it was Mr. Moss' representatives who first contacted our office to offer a "six figure" settlement with hopes of not having this incident become public record.
"We have heard Mr. Moss' statement regarding the incident. He has acknowledged that he was at Ms. Washington's Florida residence and that he was "guilty" of an "accident" which occurred. However, Mr. Moss fails to mention how his reckless and degrading conduct rendered Ms. Washington unable to drive her vehicle to seek medical attention. As the evidence will show, there is serious doubt that Mr. Moss is capable of recalling with clarity the exact details of what transpired that evening. As Mr. Moss has previously stated, "Do your homework and check his resume. We look forward to presenting all of the evidence at the court hearing on January 28, 2008."Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#28Where there is smoke, there is fire. It looks like poor Randy is in deep shit this time.Comment -
swede96SBR MVP
- 12-05-07
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#29I'm sorry, if a freidn of 11 years has been abusing you, you stop hanging out with them. Period.
Now if that friend makes millions a year.....
Why would he be unable to recall with clarity? Drinking? And she wasn't?
I don't know...something sounds off. I'm not saing he definitely wasn't in the wrong, just that I hope people don't jump all opver him until the facts come out.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#30Yeah. I got the impression it was something of a sexual nature, or related type of accident. If you notice the attorney described his client as feeling degraded in this accident. So, it's clearly not the norm of what you'd expect to hear someone is a victim of "dating violence". Probably something minor that we'd be like "THAT'S what she wants 500k for!?!?", all they're really trying to do is piss off Randy enough to get a cash settlement. If it was truly criminal, any self respecting woman would have gone to the police, not contact an attorney to get a half million dollars.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#31We look forward to presenting all of the evidence at the court hearing on January 28, 2008.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#32Tim DiPiero, agent for Patriots receiver Randy Moss, emailed the following tonight regarding the situation regarding his client:
My communications with Mr. McGill began last Wednesday. He told me that Randy had intentionally hurt his client’s hand and wouldn’t take her to the hospital and that if Randy didn’t pay up, he would go public and file suit in Florida for battery. He gave me until 3 pm Friday to let him know. He demanded that I not come up with “something like $50,000 or $75,000,” but something with “six figures.” He had told me that the x-rays on her hand or finger were negative. I explained that it was my understanding that what occurred was the result of a horseplay-type accident and Randy was sorry it had occurred and he would pay for her medical bills and pain and suffering and that I would prefer to turn this over to his homeowners’ insurance coverage as we normally do with accidents. He said he was not interested in insurance or what her injuries were. He said he was evaluating the claim based on what Randy stood to lose. He threatened that Randy would suffer large amounts of money in future salaries and endorsements and what he claimed would be game suspensions.
He also threatened that his client had lots of “dirt” on him. Making such threats is clearly unethical, and in my opinion, criminal. When I tried to ascertain the extent of her injuries, he said that he didn’t know and that it didn’t matter as I just needed to make an offer big enough that she would take it. I sought the assistance of a skilled attorney and friend, Joe Friedberg of Minneapolis, who contacted a friend of his, Richard Sharpstein in Miami, to assist me. Each of them tried to talk to McGill and they both experienced the same attempts to shake down Randy. In fact, he tried to intimidate me by telling me that I would be blamed if the suit got filed. He said in a threatening tone that “it behooved me” to make a big offer and he told me, “don’t blow it.” On Friday afternoon, I contacted the FBI and the US Attorneys’ Offices here in Charleston about his threats. McGill claimed to be driving to the courthouse to file the complaint. I asked if by six figures, he meant $100,000 and he told me to quit “nickel and diming” him. The filing time passed on Friday and he was upset that he had not filed before the Patriot game on Saturday. He kept pushing me to make a big offer. We asked him for a figure and after refusing for awhile, he gave us one, “$500,000, take it or leave it.”
People who know me in West Virginia know that I have had a long relationship with Randy and that I care a great deal about him. His success this year on and off the field has been something those of us who are close to him have enjoyed immensely. The private, glowing reports I have received from folks in the Patriots organization about his daily work ethic and rapport with everyone there made us ecstatic for him, given the difficulties he’s had. The Patriot family has come to know him as we do. With this big game coming up and with the media frenzy that I figured would follow, as it has, I admit that I thought about advising Randy to just pay the $500,000. I knew that Randy, given all the positives this year, would not want this situation to hurt the Patriots, especially now, and to be a distraction for his teammates and would pay much more than he should for the sake of the team. Because I’m too close to the situation, I had to listen to the advice of Mr. Friedberg and Mr. Sharpstein who advised me, correctly, that to pay such an outrageous amount was not the right thing to do. We tried to meet with Mr. McGill on Monday, but he refused to do so. I still didn’t want Randy to face all this craziness, and naturally we wanted to settle this thing and were willing to pay an exorbitant amount to do so, so when he asked for an offer on Monday, we said, something to the effect, “you said six figures, how about $100,000?” He said it had to be $500,000 or nothing. We told him to forget it. He had his client file the domestic petition the next day.
I don’t want to add to the media frenzy, but I must respond to Mr. McGill’s recent inaccurate statement. I want the U. S. Attorneys Offices in Miami and Charleston, the Prosecuting Attorney of Dade County and the Florida State Bar, whoever has jurisdiction over Mr. McGill’s conduct, to know that I am ready to meet with any and all of them and to testify regarding the blatant threats and attempts to extort money from my client.Comment -
gridiron guruSBR Sharp
- 02-21-07
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#33This is what happens when you're in a occupation that pays you a lot of money and you're dealing with broke women. When its all said and done, they will find out that both women are lying to get moneyComment -
BadNinaSBR Posting Legend
- 11-27-07
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#34Sounds like a case of extortion to me.Comment -
BrentCrudeSBR MVP
- 11-16-05
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#35Moss comes from West Virginia where Jerry Springer gets all his guests.
Moss is nothing more than a Jerry Springer guest that made it big and got lucky because he could run fast and catch a football.People like Moss no matter how much fame and fortune they acquire still long to live a dog patch lifestyle and hang out around like minded people.
The best one was the guy in high school Moss and his bully friend beat up that lost a kidney over it that waited years to sue moss and the statute of limitations had just run out.
Sometimes you win when you are guilty and should lose a court case and sometimes you lose when you aren't guilty.When you have as many run ins as Moss has had,it's like passing a loss off as a bad beat in poker where it just goes with the turf.Comment
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