logic poll

Jamie_UK · 01-03-08, 04:29 AM

They have "teams" in Tennis?

20Four7 · 01-03-08, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Jamie_UK

They have "teams" in Tennis?

I know it's a stretch Jamie but I"d make a guess he's talking about American Football. The kind of football "real" men play. Not the run around diving hoping to give my opponent a red card football.

20Four7 · 01-03-08, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by picoman

pretty bored waiting for the tennis game to start, so here is a poll.

Team A is the best scoring team in the nation. They have the best QB, back up QB, and three RB that are going to be first round draft pick.

Which is more likely?

Now on a serious note: Who are they playing? We know we have the number 1 offense, but what is the defense like?

vanman · 01-03-08, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by 20Four7

I know it's a stretch Jamie but I"d make a guess he's talking about American Football. The kind of football "real" men play. Not the run around diving hoping to give my opponent a red card football.

Real men don`t wear padding,just incase they hurt themselves.

Jamie_UK · 01-03-08, 10:14 AM

Yank chaseball is the most brain numbingly boring game known to humanity. Just to show I'm not anti-yank, I do like Ice Hockey quite a lot.

pico · 01-03-08, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by 20Four7

Now on a serious note: Who are they playing? We know we have the number 1 offense, but what is the defense like?

it doesn't matter.

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ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Real men don`t wear padding,just incase they hurt themselves.

Well they didn't use to wear all this padding back in the day either... There was no face masks at one point but we like our teeth here in the US...

They added all of these penalties and padding for a reason..

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Jamie_UK

Yank chaseball is the most brain numbingly boring game known to humanity. Just to show I'm not anti-yank, I do like Ice Hockey quite a lot.

Sorry, Jaime, but as a sportswriter for many years of a wide variety of sports, soccer is definately the most brain-numbingly boring game known to humanity.

vanman · 01-03-08, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Sorry, Jaime, but as a sportswriter for many years of a wide variety of sports, soccer is definately the most brain-numbingly boring game known to humanity.

It`s the biggest game in the world.

ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by vanman

It`s the biggest game in the world.

That is such a laugh... The only argument is that it's more popular...

SO..?????

vanman · 01-03-08, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

That is such a laugh... The only argument is that it's more popular...

SO..?????

SO it`s obviously not the most boring game to humanity,only to you yanks.
Sorry you think you are humanity.

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by vanman

It`s the biggest game in the world.

Not in $$$. Baseball and it's fan-gear makes the most money of any professional sport by far. And, try and get someone in the US to pay anywhere from $85 to thousands of dollars to watch a soccer match

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by vanman

SO it`s obviously not the most boring game to humanity,only to you yanks.
Sorry you think you are humanity.

And the yanks are where the money's at, sweets. Just ask the players in the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc.

vanman · 01-03-08, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Not in $$$. Baseball and it's fan-gear makes the most money of any professional sport by far. And, try and get someone in the US to pay anywhere from $85 to thousands of dollars to watch a soccer match

Your dollar is worth shit at the moment.

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Your dollar is worth shit at the moment.

Got beat at your own arguement, so you change the subject and swear. Nice.

ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by vanman

SO it`s obviously not the most boring game to humanity,only to you yanks.
Sorry you think you are humanity.

It's not to most of the world because they don't know any better... If I spent most of my life staring at paint drying on a wall for entertainment that's all I know....

It may not be boring to them but to say it is better (which you did not say) because most of the world likes it is ridiculous.

vanman · 01-03-08, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Got beat at your own arguement, so you change the subject and swear. Nice.

Prove it with hard facts then.

DrunkenLullaby · 01-03-08, 02:32 PM

So, at this moment we now have at least 6 people who shouldn't be allowed to gamble, right Pico?

Louisvillekid1 · 01-03-08, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

It's not to most of the world because they don't know any better... If I spent most of my life staring at paint drying on a wall for entertainment that's all I know....

It may not be boring to them but to say it is better (which you did not say) because most of the world likes it is ridiculous.

Totally agree. . . Quality of Quanity

vanman · 01-03-08, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

It's not to most of the world because they don't know any better... If I spent most of my life staring at paint drying on a wall for entertainment that's all I know....

It may not be boring to them but to say it is better (which you did not say) because most of the world likes it is ridiculous.

Who`s to say which is better,football(soccer as you call it)is a more popular sport the world over.A fact i don`t need to prove.When it comes to sport i will watch anything within reason from beach soccer to beach volleyball to winter sports.

ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Who`s to say which is better,football(soccer as you call it)is a more popular sport the world over.A fact i don`t need to prove.When it comes to sport i will watch anything within reason from beach soccer to beach volleyball to winter sports.

Better is relative I would agree but let's be straight here... Most of the world could not understand football if they tried.. People here have been watching it for years and still have no idea on the x's and o's although it's getting better..

I talk x's and o's to my dad (he also thinks soccer is king) who has been watching football for 30 years and he looks at me like I am explaining differential equations to him...

The world is very simple minded and soccer is a very simple sport... I do not agree that soccer is the most boring... I would rather watch that then chess, poker, fishing, or gulf... I would NOT watch it over the college national cheerleading finals though or of course football and basketball...

tribet · 01-03-08, 02:42 PM

To be fair and objective to everyone soccer is the most popular sport in the world and the most boring,played by a bunch of girls and watched by morons.

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Prove it with hard facts then.

Highest paid player in soccer: David Beckham $50 mill over 5 years = $10 mill a year.

Highest paid player in MLB: Alex Rodrigues: 28 mill for 2007 season.

Highest paid player in the NFL: Dwight Freeny: 72 mill over 6 years = $12 mill a year.

Highest paid player in the NBA: You'd have to go all they way down to No. 42 to find someone who would accept Beckham's salary.

Point in fact: There is no NFL, MLB or NBA all over the world - just in the US - if there was, anyone of those three sports would bury soccer. As Sham's said, if you've just been watching paint dry then soccer is "exciting," by comparison. But, by monetary comparison, no soccer player is making the money of the players in other sports - including golf!

ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Highest paid player in soccer: David Beckham $50 mill over 5 years = $10 mill a year.

Highest paid player in MLB: Alex Rodrigues: 28 mill for 2007 season.

Highest paid player in the NFL: Dwight Freeny: 72 mill over 6 years = $12 mill a year.

Highest paid player in the NBA: You'd have to go all they way down to No. 42 to find someone who would accept Beckham's salery.

Point in fact: There is no NFL, MLB or NBA all over the world - just in the US - if there was, anyone of those three sports would bury soccer. As Sham's said, if you've just been watching paint dry then soccer is "exciting," by comparison. But, by monetary comparison, no soccer player is making the money of the players in other sports - including golf!

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ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 02:50 PM

By the way I voted "Team A" wins... My reasoning was you tried to pull a "US Media" on us by throwing out the fact about scoring, the qb, rb, and all that other sh*t..

That would impact the normal person's perspective I would think...

It doesn't matter how much they score unless they don't kick ANY FG's.. The chances they win are better just because they can win with a FG alone... If you are a Browns fan you would know this right off the bat no matter how "tarded" you are...

vanman · 01-03-08, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Highest paid player in soccer: David Beckham $50 mill over 5 years = $10 mill a year.

Highest paid player in MLB: Alex Rodrigues: 28 mill for 2007 season.

Highest paid player in the NFL: Dwight Freeny: 72 mill over 6 years = $12 mill a year.

Highest paid player in the NBA: You'd have to go all they way down to No. 42 to find someone who would accept Beckham's salary.

Point in fact: There is no NFL, MLB or NBA all over the world - just in the US - if there was, anyone of those three sports would bury soccer. As Sham's said, if you've just been watching paint dry then soccer is "exciting," by comparison. But, by monetary comparison, no soccer player is making the money of the players in other sports - including golf!

Yes american sports stars are paid more as individuals,that wasn`t in question.I said that football(soccer as you call it)is the biggest sport the world over,you haven`t dissproved it yet,nor will you.If you want to compare American sports to English sports then there is no comparison,but alas you missed the point of what i initially said,because all you can see is America is better.Take your blinkers off.

Louisvillekid1 · 01-03-08, 03:14 PM

Sportsgirl,

Freeny is really the highest paid in the NFL?

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Yes american sports stars are paid more as individuals,that wasn`t in question.I said that football(soccer as you call it)is the biggest sport the world over,you haven`t dissproved it yet,nor will you.If you want to compare American sports to English sports then there is no comparison,but alas you missed the point of what i initially said,because all you can see is America is better.Take your blinkers off.

Biggest sport the world over? How? Where's your facts? hard numbers?

And remember, part of my point was that people all over the world can't attend NFL, MLB, or NBA games because they are unavailable - so don't use attendance in your arguement, as it is comparing apples to oranges.

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Sportsgirl,

Freeny is really the highest paid in the NFL?

For 2007 ...

What is the highest paid NFL roster? - Answers

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The structure of NFL salaries can make any player seem to be making more than any other player, but the averages are not always the net they receive (because of salary cap considerations) or are guaranteed (they can receive more or less). The top 20 players are all in the $16-20 million dollar range for their current contracts.Joe Flacco of the Ravens has the highest guaranteed salary: $51 million for the first 2 years. But other QBs may make more in any given year.The highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL for 2014 are:Aaron Rodgers ($110 million over 5 years)Colin Kaepernick ($13 million guaranteed but up to $126 million over 6 years)Jay Cutler ($126 million over 7 years, guaranteed $54 million over 3 years)Tony Romo ($13.5 million, $108 million over 6 years)Matt Ryan ($104 million, guaranteed $63 million over 3 years)Joe Flacco* ($20.1 million, $120.6 million over 6 years)Drew Brees ($ 20 million, guaranteed $60 million up to $100 million over 5 years)Peyton Manning ($15 million guaranteed, $100 million over 5 years)Matthew Stafford (3 years $53 million)Eli Manning (6 years, $98 million)WR Larry Fitzgerald (7 years, $113 million)WR Calvin Johnson (7 years, $113 million)---The highest paid NFL players as of 2011 were:Peyton Manning who is paid $23 million dollars a year.The rest is in order are as follows:Matt Ryan, QB, Falcons, $43.8 million over 5 yearsSam Bradford Quarterback for the St. Louis Rams: $18.4 million dollars a yearTom Brady Quarterback for the New England Patriots: $18 million dollars a yearMichael Vick Quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles: $15.9 million dollars a yearRichard Seymour Defensive End/Defensive Tackle: $15 million dollars a yearElvis Dumervil Defensive End/Outside Linebacker: $14 million dollars a yearMark Sanchez Quarterback for the New York Jets: $13.5 million dollars a yearGerald McCoy Defensive Tackle for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $12.8 million dollars a yearHaloti Ngata Defensive Tackle for the Baltimore Ravens: $12.5 million dollars a yearPaul Soliai Defensive Tackle for the Miami Dolphins: $12.4 million dollars aNote that because of salary cap manipulations, an individual's salary in a particular year may be much higher or lower. For example, Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was paid over $27 million in 2008. Payton manning

However, you have to factor in that he got 30 mill of his 72 mill in 2007 and the remainder of 42 mill will come across the next 5 years.

vanman · 01-03-08, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Biggest sport the world over? How? Where's your facts? hard numbers?

And remember, part of my point was that people all over the world can't attend NFL, MLB, or NBA games because they are unavailable - so don't use attendance in your arguement, as it is comparing apples to oranges.

Finally you got the point.Fooball(soccer as you call it) is played the world over.Good old popularity.

ShamsWoof10 · 01-03-08, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Finally you got the point.Fooball(soccer as you call it) is played the world over.Good old popularity.

AGAIN.. SOOOOOOOOO WHAT... That is all they know... Can you get a blind person to understand what is it like to see..?

I tried that point with my mom once.. "but all the other kids have one mom"...and she said "if all the kids jump off the bridge does that mean you are going to do it too..?"

Sportsgirl · 01-03-08, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Finally you got the point.Fooball(soccer as you call it) is played the world over.Good old popularity.

Popularity? Try cheap.

Impoverished kids in third-world countries don't play stickball in the mud because it's popular - they play it because it's all there is and all they can afford.

Other countries don't have the NFL, MBL, NBA, etc., because they can't afford to, not because it wouldn't be popular.

Do the math, Vanman - "popularity" is always about the almighty dollar.

vanman · 01-03-08, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Popularity? Try cheap.

Impoverished kids in third-world countries don't play stickball in the mud because it's popular - they play it because it's all there is and all they can afford.

Other countries don't have the NFL, MBL, NBA, etc., because they can't afford to, not because it wouldn't be popular.

Do the math, Vanman - "popularity" is always about the almighty dollar.

Americans answer to everything,throw money at it,like i said earlier it`s worth shit at the moment.
By the way there`s a big old world out there if you care to leave america and go explore.Plenty of people from america have tried it and guess what it broadened their horizons.

DrunkenLullaby · 01-03-08, 03:45 PM

How the Christ did THIS thread become a raging debate on soccer?