Would it Really Be This Easy to Beat the Books????

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  • THE PROFIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-09
    • 17701

    #36
    Now Marc Lawrence, on the other hand, hes one of those guys that I may not always like what play he has, but I have to have a damn good reason to go against it. The guy knows his shit, and its not gut feelings or voodoo, its 30 years of doing it with stats & proven angles
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    • limitation
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-25-09
      • 747

      #37
      The biggest difference I see between pro cappers and amateur gamblers is that pro cappers never lay down that huge chalk (I am talking about -200 or more). They find good lines that have +EV and good chance to win most of the times. Even if they end up losing the plays, you won't lose a lot of money because you didn't lay down that -200 chalk. You save money by playing on a reasonable chalk lines compared to getting burned with -200 chalk line.
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      • THE PROFIT
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-27-09
        • 17701

        #38
        I dont do much on bases, but am learning. The biggest thing I have come to realize is if its a +200+ dog, just fukin take it
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        • THE PROFIT
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-27-09
          • 17701

          #39
          That reminds me of something else about Marc Lawrence, 80% of his plays are dogs. His slogan is

          "When you bet a dog 3 things can happen, and 2 of 'em are good!"
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          • JW Cash
            SBR MVP
            • 12-31-08
            • 4453

            #40
            Profit....


            U remember the ULTIMATE Tout Scammer....

            Mike Warren......


            I can still remember his annual TURKEY SHOOT BONANZA on Thanksgiving....

            Go 5-0 EVERY year..he says....

            My buddy and I fell for his garbage one year and lost plenty...

            we were soooooooooo naive then.....
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            • THE PROFIT
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-27-09
              • 17701

              #41
              see, there may be favs on the board that are winners, we all know are winners, but he waits to find that dog that has the best statistical & historical chance of winning SU, and there's not alot of those situations every week, so dont force it
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              • limitation
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-25-09
                • 747

                #42
                Honestly, records are not important. You can go 7-4 and still have losing day because you bet on favorites and paid that -200 chalk. Or you can go 3-5 for the day and still make good profit because you bet on underdogs. I went 4-3 today and still ended up losing 200 dollars because I bet on Rangers and Phillies.
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                • THE PROFIT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-27-09
                  • 17701

                  #43
                  oh yeah, I remember that shit!

                  When I was young I went through them all, lost money, the whole deal. As I got older I had alot of fun fuking with those douchebags. Out of all those scamdicappers Marc was the only one who was trustworthy & worked for the client.
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                  • jolmscheid
                    Restricted User
                    • 02-20-10
                    • 3256

                    #44
                    Yeah I have a lot to learn yet I see...thanks guys for all the help...

                    I think I a gonna stick with 3-4 Solid cappers for now and hopefully I can get to the point where I am following ONLY 1-2 or even just doing it myself!
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                    • limitation
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-25-09
                      • 747

                      #45
                      Just pick one or two sold cappers and follow them 100%. Don't jump from cappers to cappers. That's how most gamblers go broke too. They follow one capper and when one play loses, they switch to next one. The cycle never ends and next thing they know they lost 50% of their bankrolls.
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                      • JW Cash
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-31-08
                        • 4453

                        #46
                        ...jolmscheid......we gotta hit Hooters in DT Mpls.....
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                        • THE PROFIT
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-27-09
                          • 17701

                          #47
                          I have been doing this for over 15 years, and Marc is the only one out of 50,000 touts that I would ever recommend blindly tailing for a newbie who just wants to have some action & knows nothing about capping football. And I just recommend his football plays, hes average in everything else but sharp as hell in football, especially come bowl season
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                          • JW Cash
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-31-08
                            • 4453

                            #48
                            Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                            I have been doing this for over 15 years, and Marc is the only one out of 50,000 touts that I would ever recommend blindly tailing for a newbie who just wants to have some action & knows nothing about capping football. And I just recommend his football plays, hes average in everything else but sharp as hell in football, especially come bowl season
                            The thing with Marc....at least from what I remember....

                            is that he had so many different packages for say, football....I dont
                            like that in a capper....

                            Hell. if you are good...have ONE PACKAGE with your plays...

                            With Marc...he had like an Economy package...a mid-range package and
                            a high end package.....
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                            • reverend
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 06-01-09
                              • 880

                              #49
                              Originally posted by JW Cash

                              The thing with Marc....at least from what I remember....

                              is that he had so many different packages for say, football....I dont
                              like that in a capper....

                              Hell. if you are good...have ONE PACKAGE with your plays...

                              With Marc...he had like an Economy package...a mid-range package and
                              a high end package.....

                              Like you said, Marc is a quality capper, but I agree with you. I want someone I follow to have a list of plays he likes and that is his card. there is no need to segment it up, because after awhile, it just looks like you making picks just to make picks...and to sell some packages.
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                              • THE PROFIT
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-27-09
                                • 17701

                                #50
                                I havent bought one of his packages in so long i cant remember guys, I do know he has one bowl package though.
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                                • reverend
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 06-01-09
                                  • 880

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by limitation
                                  Just pick one or two sold cappers and follow them 100%. Don't jump from cappers to cappers. That's how most gamblers go broke too. They follow one capper and when one play loses, they switch to next one. The cycle never ends and next thing they know they lost 50% of their bankrolls.

                                  this is the truth! i see it all the time
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                                  • jolmscheid
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 02-20-10
                                    • 3256

                                    #52
                                    THANK YOU limitation, PROFIT, JW CASH, and REVEREND....you guys have helped me out immensely!!!!!!!!!


                                    SO.....it looks like I am gonna have to pick a few cappers and just be DISCIPLINED!

                                    HA JW, Hooters in MPLS and then hit up a VIKES game! Or the Gophers...even though they suck..ha
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                                    • JW Cash
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-31-08
                                      • 4453

                                      #53
                                      ...jolmscheid....

                                      did you have Teddy Covers Game of the Week tonite on Oakland...

                                      and CRUSHER'S Fourth Straight Win on LA Dodgers....
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                                      • jolmscheid
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 02-20-10
                                        • 3256

                                        #54
                                        YES I was on Oakland AND the Dodgers tonight!
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                                        • jolmscheid
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 02-20-10
                                          • 3256

                                          #55
                                          And JW...could you PM me if I should chase Crusher's plays or not and how exactly I should do that if I was to chase?

                                          Thanks!
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                                          • Robber
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-21-09
                                            • 6432

                                            #56
                                            Most of them are not longterm winners
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                                            • THE PROFIT
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-27-09
                                              • 17701

                                              #57
                                              true robber, vast majority are not
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                                              • rook
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 07-06-10
                                                • 211

                                                #58
                                                in the long time you loose and the bookie will win
                                                rules to live by in betting
                                                1. Dont bet on something you dont know
                                                2. use money management
                                                3. If you wanna bet to much, think how we`ll you feel without that money in your pocket
                                                4. The money in the bookie account are NOT yours untill you will withdraw them.
                                                5. Try to not bet your own money, use their money to bet them, i mean free play, free cash, money from contest, and those contest are always a way to improve and prove that you can win.
                                                And some others...
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                                                • JW Cash
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-31-08
                                                  • 4453

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                                  true robber, vast majority are not




                                                  ..but there ARE 1 or 2 that are the Cream of the Crop......
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                                                  • Poogs
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 04-05-10
                                                    • 116

                                                    #60
                                                    Don't pay for picks. Honestly its the worst thing you can do. These guys fudge their records, they use lines that aren't accesible and staright up lie. Do some work yourself and figure out how to find good spots to bet.
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                                                    • jayc88
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 12-30-07
                                                      • 6785

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by limitation
                                                      The biggest difference I see between pro cappers and amateur gamblers is that pro cappers never lay down that huge chalk (I am talking about -200 or more). They find good lines that have +EV and good chance to win most of the times. Even if they end up losing the plays, you won't lose a lot of money because you didn't lay down that -200 chalk. You save money by playing on a reasonable chalk lines compared to getting burned with -200 chalk line.
                                                      yes no pro cappers would ttouch anything like -200 or higher

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                                                      • skilz4milz
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 08-03-10
                                                        • 276

                                                        #62
                                                        From experience, not jumping from capper to capper is prolly the best advice that was mentioned here imho.

                                                        The other thing that I get from this is to find a good capper in one particular sport and follow him for that sport only. Each new sport rinse and repeat. Is this accurate or will this approach get you in trouble as well?
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                                                        • belvedere86
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-19-10
                                                          • 910

                                                          #63
                                                          I know a very good capper in mlb/nba but the problem is that I live in europe and he in LA. and he never post all his picks in the morning. so I should be awake till 4am my time to be sure that i get all his picks
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                                                          • Hoopman
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 12-31-09
                                                            • 281

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by jolmscheid
                                                            Hey guys...after looking through this forum all MLB season long, I have wondered what combos of cappers may be profitable long term?

                                                            Now I DON"T KNOW how well these cappers have done over the past 5-10 years for ALL sports, but based on their MLB seasons so far, one could follow these cappers and take it to the bank.

                                                            Is this the way to early retirement:

                                                            Teddy Covers (2% of bankroll per pick)
                                                            Marco D'Angelo (2% of bankroll per pick)
                                                            PowerPlay Wins 4 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%)
                                                            Crusher 4 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%)
                                                            Win or Lose POD 4 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%)
                                                            Sports Betting Professor 3 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%)


                                                            Again, all of these cappers have done well THIS year, but I do not know about past years for ALL sports...if their capping is anything like this year, then everyone could make $$$ sports betting. Is it this easy?
                                                            Nothing in sports betting is easy as many have already alluded to. Discipline & MM are 2 of your biggest obstacles as well as the fact that these cappers' past performances don't guarantee future success bro. Next MLB season, it could and probably will be another set of names at the top of the list. For football, the leaderboard list will change also.

                                                            As for the progressive staking, it may work if you're diligent about managing your money. The only problem that always comes into play is when you hit that inevitable losing streak, will you actually stick to your staking plan? Nuts start to get tight after a few consecutive losses. Hopefully all your cappers won't hit a losing streak at the exact same time. That is a small, but very real possibility as it happened to a friend of mine here in Vegas. It was all good for him and he was raking in cash, until that cold streak hit and then the progression took him out of the game for good. Be careful on those progressions.
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                                                            • jolmscheid
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 02-20-10
                                                              • 3256

                                                              #65
                                                              Thanks for the insight Hoopman...I will NOT be doing any progressions as all cappers will go on a losing streak! And you are correct, there will always be different leaders year by year, but just want those cappers who have PROVEN profitable track records for multiple years...I don't care if they are at the top of the list every year for every sport...all I care about is if they will profit year in and year out...
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