Would it Really Be This Easy to Beat the Books????

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  • jolmscheid
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    • 02-20-10
    • 3256

    #1
    Would it Really Be This Easy to Beat the Books????
    Hey guys...after looking through this forum all MLB season long, I have wondered what combos of cappers may be profitable long term?

    Now I DON"T KNOW how well these cappers have done over the past 5-10 years for ALL sports, but based on their MLB seasons so far, one could follow these cappers and take it to the bank.

    Is this the way to early retirement:

    Teddy Covers (2% of bankroll per pick)
    Marco D'Angelo (2% of bankroll per pick)
    PowerPlay Wins 4 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%)
    Crusher 4 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%)
    Win or Lose POD 4 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%)
    Sports Betting Professor 3 game conservative progression (1%, 2%, 3%)


    Again, all of these cappers have done well THIS year, but I do not know about past years for ALL sports...if their capping is anything like this year, then everyone could make $$$ sports betting. Is it this easy?
  • THE PROFIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-09
    • 17701

    #2
    granted, there's cappers out there that hit 60% & if you follow their plays only & their MM system you could win, but we are GAMBLERS, that means when they don't have a play on a certain game, or a play at a certain time, we will take it upon ourselves to play a game & 99% of us end up losing in the long run
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    • daneault23
      SBR MVP
      • 09-08-09
      • 3873

      #3
      I guess if you follow STRICT money management, and play all their games and don't cherry pick you could win. However, saying it and doing it is two completely different stories.
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      • jolmscheid
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        • 02-20-10
        • 3256

        #4
        Yeah you guys are right...well we need DISCIPLINE men!
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        • ouman101
          SBR MVP
          • 12-02-09
          • 2815

          #5
          What does your picture of Lebron say above it?
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          • jolmscheid
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            • 02-20-10
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            #6
            It says "We Are All Witnesses"...I know that a lot of people don't like Lebron for what he did, but in the end, I think he made a decision that was going to make him happy. I think he handled his interviews and everything like a man...I personally don't blame him for leaving for Miami...He gave Cleveland 7 great years with virtually only HIM as the entire team!
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            • jolmscheid
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              • 02-20-10
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              #7
              ouman101...what do YOU think of the plan of following those cappers above?
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              • poker_dummy101
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                • 11-03-08
                • 6395

                #8
                horrible idea
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                • jolmscheid
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                  • 02-20-10
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                  #9
                  How come Poker?
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                  • THE PROFIT
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                    • 11-27-09
                    • 17701

                    #10
                    This is nothing new jolmscheid. There are cappers I have monitored in the past that come out way+ units every season in their respective sports. But having the discipline to follow them & only them & their unit mgmt is where people have trouble.

                    Marc Lawrence is a capper that I respect more than any other. year after year he is money in football. But those of us that do this thing think we know more than others & go out on our own, some can do it, most cant.

                    Here's an example. I could give you 2 football picks per week every week, 2-0 every week. I could be up 200 units. I could tout a sportsbook & tell you that if you sign up with BetPhoenix or Bookmaker for instance that they will give you a 50% deposit bonus just for saying you follow THE PROFIT. Now why would a book give you extra bonuses & want your business knowing you are a client of a service that is say 90% (not possible but this is for demonstration purposes) documented over 5 years???

                    Because Im 90% on 2 games a week. That isnt good enough for the average fukin degenerate. I give you a game at 12:00 on Sat & MNF, what the fuk are you gonna do all weekend??? Instead of riding the money train you're gonna be in the fukin hole & counting on my MNF play to bail you out, & if it goes down you have to assume an alias & move out of the country

                    gamblers want action, Pros want money
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                    • jolmscheid
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                      • 02-20-10
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                      #11
                      Profit that's spot on! That makes so much sense! How does Lawrence do in other sports? or is he just a football mastermind...I really appreciate your insight Profit!
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                      • Masu485
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-14-08
                        • 7700

                        #12
                        It depends on the prices you are getting. If the touts are getting a much better line than you, even if they do very well for the year you may still only be up a little. If you want to follow a tout with discipline, it's crucial you get the same/better line than them, which can be very difficult. There should always be a point in time when you refuse to play a game because the line has too much -ev.
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                        • THE PROFIT
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                          • 11-27-09
                          • 17701

                          #13
                          to be honest, I dont know his exacts in other sports, as I don't handicap anything but football & some college hoops so I don't bet anything else for any significant amounts.

                          But years ago before I knew anything about handicapping I started following Marc in football & he has always had a great record, he's awesome during bowl season every year

                          I do know that football is definitely his best sport
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                          • JW Cash
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-31-08
                            • 4453

                            #14
                            Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                            This is nothing new jolmscheid. There are cappers I have monitored in the past that come out way+ units every season in their respective sports. But having the discipline to follow them & only them & their unit mgmt is where people have trouble.

                            Marc Lawrence is a capper that I respect more than any other. year after year he is money in football. But those of us that do this thing think we know more than others & go out on our own, some can do it, most cant.

                            Here's an example. I could give you 2 football picks per week every week, 2-0 every week. I could be up 200 units. I could tout a sportsbook & tell you that if you sign up with BetPhoenix or Bookmaker for instance that they will give you a 50% deposit bonus just for saying you follow THE PROFIT. Now why would a book give you extra bonuses & want your business knowing you are a client of a service that is say 90% (not possible but this is for demonstration purposes) documented over 5 years???

                            Because Im 90% on 2 games a week. That isnt good enough for the average fukin degenerate. I give you a game at 12:00 on Sat & MNF, what the fuk are you gonna do all weekend??? Instead of riding the money train you're gonna be in the fukin hole & counting on my MNF play to bail you out, & if it goes down you have to assume an alias & move out of the country

                            gamblers want action, Pros want money


                            Good Stuff Profit....

                            I couldnt agree more......
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                            • JW Cash
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                              • 12-31-08
                              • 4453

                              #15
                              Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                              to be honest, I dont know his exacts in other sports, as I don't handicap anything but football & some college hoops so I don't bet anything else for any significant amounts.

                              But years ago before I knew anything about handicapping I started following Marc in football & he has always had a great record, he's awesome during bowl season every year

                              I do know that football is definitely his best sport


                              Did you ever get Marc's Black Book for College & Pro Football...

                              Great systems and strategies for every college and pro team
                              in there....but way too many.....I got confused
                              as to which ones to use and which ones to disregard....
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                              • THE PROFIT
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                                • 11-27-09
                                • 17701

                                #16
                                its full of shit! Too much actually, but good stuff nonetheless. Do you listen to his radio show? I used to love when he was on TV on Sat morn, I dont think he still is, if so I dont get the show anymore
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                                • JW Cash
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-31-08
                                  • 4453

                                  #17
                                  I get his comp Preseason Newsletter...but havent got it this year yet..

                                  I used to get his Marc Lawrence College & Pro Football Yearbook every year..

                                  lots of good info in that.............dont know if he still puts in out...

                                  Have not listen to his radio stuff but every now and then I will go to his website
                                  to see whats cookin.....
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                                  • Iceman
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 486

                                    #18
                                    It's called handicapping the handicappers. No guarantees at all. Lock this thread and come back a year from now and see where you will be at from this day forward.
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                                    • JerseyLove
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-15-10
                                      • 2183

                                      #19
                                      Money can be made in anything in life, just have to know what to do!
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                                      • jonmic
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-25-06
                                        • 685

                                        #20
                                        great idea, i recommend you do it
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                                        • jolmscheid
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                                          • 02-20-10
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                                          #21
                                          Well I assume that many cap games themselves, and I do somewhat myself as well, but I don't have much confidence in me only...I guess that's why I would like to follow a handful of PROVEN cappers...
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            If I had to pick one I would say this strategy is the best

                                            Teddy Covers (2% of bankroll per pick)

                                            It is just so hard to have discipline and does most of us in, also so hard to layoff days where we really do not have a strong play.

                                            I have always said if your betting one side the less games you bet the better chance you have to turn a profit
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                                            • JW Cash
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-31-08
                                              • 4453

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              If I had to pick one I would say this strategy is the best

                                              Teddy Covers (2% of bankroll per pick)

                                              It is just so hard to have discipline and does most of us in, also so hard to layoff days where we really do not have a strong play.

                                              I have always said if your betting one side the less games you bet the better chance you have to turn a profit

                                              Absolutely agree JJ

                                              I like Teddy as well...


                                              I have lost enough that I now have no problem laying off
                                              days when I do not have a play that meets criteria.....
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                                              • jolmscheid
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                                                • 02-20-10
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                                                #24
                                                Thanks JJ and JW...so even though the cappers have all shown to be profitable, it is BETTER to just picks a few instead of more of them? Thanks guys I apprecitate the help....
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                                                • mattyend33
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-06-10
                                                  • 155

                                                  #25
                                                  I bet out of certain parts of the season...can't play everyday I can on basketball not baseball tho
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                                                  • limitation
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-25-09
                                                    • 747

                                                    #26
                                                    If it's easy to make money in gambling, bookies would be out of business.
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                                                    • jolmscheid
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                                                      • 02-20-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by limitation
                                                      If it's easy to make money in gambling, bookies would be out of business.
                                                      Of course it's not easy, but would following a handful of proven cappers that have been proven for multiple years make betting profitable for those who have strict money management?
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                                                      • THE PROFIT
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-27-09
                                                        • 17701

                                                        #28
                                                        it is easy to make money betting sports & bookies would still be in business.

                                                        Its easy to have a couple drinks & go home but theres a large percentage of people who take it too far & are alcoholics
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                                                        • jolmscheid
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                                                          • 02-20-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Ha Ha..i like that PROFIT...

                                                          Well it seems to me that I can still do some of my own capping...but when it comes down to it, I need to find some cappers that have done well for years and follow them to the "T"

                                                          I think Crusher, Covers, and the Sports Professor have been good for a longer period of time....

                                                          I DO NOT know how long Win or Lose has been around or how long PowerPlay Wins has been around as they might just be new services that started out hot???
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                                                          • limitation
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-25-09
                                                            • 747

                                                            #30
                                                            The problem with following cappers is most of the people don't follow them 100% all the times. I am sure most of us just look at their plays and then decide whether or not it's the correct play. If you follow them 100%, you have good chance at making profit in a long run with strict money management. The biggest problem is money management. Most of the gamblers go broke because they decide to chase after losing one or two play. Starts to double up their next plays just so they can make up that loss units.
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                                                            • jolmscheid
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by limitation
                                                              The problem with following cappers is most of the people don't follow them 100% all the times. I am sure most of us just look at their plays and then decide whether or not it's the correct play. If you follow them 100%, you have good chance at making profit in a long run with strict money management. The biggest problem is money management. Most of the gamblers go broke because they decide to chase after losing one or two play. Starts to double up their next plays just so they can make up that loss units.
                                                              You're right about that...I'm guilty as charged...will definitely dedicate myself to following these cappers and trusting that I will have losing days, weeks, and months, but will hopefully be very profitable long term...
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                                                              • reverend
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 06-01-09
                                                                • 880

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                                                This is nothing new jolmscheid. There are cappers I have monitored in the past that come out way+ units every season in their respective sports. But having the discipline to follow them & only them & their unit mgmt is where people have trouble.

                                                                Marc Lawrence is a capper that I respect more than any other. year after year he is money in football. But those of us that do this thing think we know more than others & go out on our own, some can do it, most cant.

                                                                Here's an example. I could give you 2 football picks per week every week, 2-0 every week. I could be up 200 units. I could tout a sportsbook & tell you that if you sign up with BetPhoenix or Bookmaker for instance that they will give you a 50% deposit bonus just for saying you follow THE PROFIT. Now why would a book give you extra bonuses & want your business knowing you are a client of a service that is say 90% (not possible but this is for demonstration purposes) documented over 5 years???

                                                                Because Im 90% on 2 games a week. That isnt good enough for the average fukin degenerate. I give you a game at 12:00 on Sat & MNF, what the fuk are you gonna do all weekend??? Instead of riding the money train you're gonna be in the fukin hole & counting on my MNF play to bail you out, & if it goes down you have to assume an alias & move out of the country

                                                                gamblers want action, Pros want money

                                                                I dont think it can be said any clearer than this! Profit points out the biggest issue with your typical gambler, which is discipline. This same phenomenon is easily related to poker as well...do you have the patience/discipline to sit at a card table for 8 hours and play maybe 5 hands per hour. Most dont, which is why they lose in the long run.

                                                                jolmscheid, it's funny your started this thread, because for the first time in my 8+ years of sports betting, I am going to be following 1 person solely this football season. It is going to be very interesting, because there are 2-3 plays max each weekend. Very similar to the example that Profit gave above, my contact has proven to me over the last few years that he can make money with a certain type of bet in a certain situation. So...with that said, I am going to be hitching my wagon to one horse this season. I'm really looking forward to the challenge of staying disciplined!
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                                                                • THE PROFIT
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                                                                  • 11-27-09
                                                                  • 17701

                                                                  #33
                                                                  sounds good reverend, good luck!
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                                                                  • jolmscheid
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah Rev that sounds great! You're lucky to have a special contact like that! I don't know nobody like that! HA
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                                                                    • THE PROFIT
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-27-09
                                                                      • 17701

                                                                      #35
                                                                      limitation makes a great point. You cant chase when you follow a capper, if they lose double up on the next play, etc... they may go on a 4 game losing streak, and it will deplete your bankroll.

                                                                      And you cant pick & choose their plays. At the end of the season they will have a +70 unit record & you'll be -20 because you chased their losses & picked what games of theirs you liked & then say they are a sucky tout outfit that lies about their record when in actuality you are a fukin degenerate who can't manage money. I see it all the time.

                                                                      I haven't tailed someone blindly in years, but what I have done is learn how to handicap the capper. Some of these guys like root for instance, hes easier to predict than 2 teams playing. You have to learn to recognize his hot streaks & cold streaks & adjust accordingly, which means know when to jump on or bail
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