Message from ThePrick - 2010 BTP: $160k Football Contest

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  • Thor4140
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-09-08
    • 22296

    #246
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    Konck,

    With the $5,000 guaranteed now it is like last year in terms of prizes awarded weekly. So the free loaders will be stupid not to deposit $50. If it was left as originally planned it would have created problems.

    Kudos to SBR_John for making a smart decision.

    Surprised John moved on this. I'll have to go eat some crow. Be back later.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #247
      SBR_John,

      You need to take a look at this. I don't see any mentioning about a guaranteed $5,000 cash prizes each week.

      Beat The Prick 2010
      sponsored by Diamond Sportsbook

      Weekly Prize-Pool
      1. $10,000 will be prorated among all eligible winners who outscore 'ThePrick' that week. If 700 players enter picks in one week, $2,000 will be added to the weekly pot. For every 100 over 700 an additional $2,000 will be added.

      Season Ending Prizes
      1. $5,000
      2. $2,500
      3. $1,000
      4. $750
      5. $400
      6. $200
      7. $150

      Must deposit $50+ to Diamond Sportsbook to be eligible. Players with balances still must deposit. If you do not have an account already, you must register one here. All prizes are cash and carry 6X rollover. If you do not fund your sportsbook account, you will receive SBRpoints instead. A $100 prize will be applied as 100 SBRpoints.

      What 'ThePrick' does
      By midnight Tuesday of each week, 'The Prick' will make 4 picks on NFL/NCAAF sides or totals. Nobody can enter any picks until 'The Prick' makes his picks. The games which he selects will be taken off the board.

      Objective of Contest
      Your objective is to out-perform 'ThePrick' each week. If he goes 4-0, no money changes hands. If he goes 3-1 +3.00, and you go 3-1 +3.01 or better, you will have beaten 'ThePrick' that week.

      You must make 4 picks per week. If you make less than 4 picks, you will be unable to win a prize that week.

      You must designate one pick as a "Best Bet", which is a 2-unit play.

      You must be positive units to have "beaten the Prick".
      Contest Format: BeatThePrick
      Start Date: Tue, September, 7, 2010
      End Date: Mon, December, 20, 2010
      Round Duration: Every Week
      Max Round Plays: 4
      Min Round Plays: 4
      Max Plays: 60
      Min Plays: 48
      Bet Range: 1
      Base Betting: Yes
      BestBets Required: 1
      BestBet Multiplier Value: 2
      Show Pending: No
      Grading Method: Net Units
      Grand Prize: $10,000.00
      Round Prize: $10,000.00
      Sport Leagues Sides ML Totals
      NFL yes no yes
      NCAAF yes no yes
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      • Dark Horse
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-14-05
        • 13764

        #248
        Originally posted by konck
        This will be a good contest but the funding should be higher lets attract the books the players here shouldnt have concerns with a nickle with a 100 min balance after funding the nickle I mean we are here to play
        Why not add an option, for those so inclined, to buy in for a couple of hundred for season ending prizes only? If 500 contestants throw in 200 bucks, that's 100K to divide among top finishers.

        The 'problem' I'm seeing is that there are so many different types of players that it becomes tough to please everyone, or keep everyone interested. So if you're going to give away free points at the lower end, why not raise the stakes a little at the other end?

        You could have three types of contestants, instead of two. Those playing for points, without a deposit. Those playing for cash, with a deposit. And a third group that plays for cash, but has also bought in for higher season ending prizes.
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        • tim0402
          SBR Sharp
          • 03-18-09
          • 492

          #249
          when will the signup start?
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          • samdapatriotsfan
            SBR MVP
            • 10-10-08
            • 1585

            #250
            Originally posted by tim0402
            when will the signup start?
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            • TWEETS
              SBR MVP
              • 10-22-08
              • 2114

              #251
              It's already started, there was a post over the weekend. go to Beattheprick.com if you cant find the post.
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              • tltaylor89
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-19-09
                • 19610

                #252
                So what is the verification process by Sbr to make sure everyone deposited?
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                • BigDaddy
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-01-06
                  • 8378

                  #253
                  so any deposit of $50 or more from today until the start of the contest will be good for full cash prizes

                  is that correct?

                  or do we have to maintain a balance of $50 or more in the account throughout the season?

                  thank you
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                  • Bill Dozer
                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                    • 07-12-05
                    • 10894

                    #254
                    Originally posted by BigDaddy
                    so any deposit of $50 or more from today until the start of the contest will be good for full cash prizes

                    is that correct?

                    or do we have to maintain a balance of $50 or more in the account throughout the season?

                    thank you
                    $50 can be in your account when you join or anytime before your first BeatThePrick play is off the board at game time.

                    If you don't make it you can still get it in before the following week.
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                    • jordan_gt_99
                      Restricted User
                      • 12-20-08
                      • 174

                      #255
                      A lot of people play this huh
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                      • zert
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-09
                        • 1274

                        #256
                        I only played it a 2 or 3 times last year because you had to have different books each week. But did you have to make your picks all at once? Did the games stay up till start time? The rules do not mention anything about this. thanks if somebody answers
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                        • soli
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-10-06
                          • 2503

                          #257
                          this sounds like a very good contest and I'm all in...Thanks
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                          • forsberg21
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-23-09
                            • 1851

                            #258
                            Anyone know how many people were playing this each week in 2009?
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                            • tblues2005
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-30-06
                              • 9235

                              #259
                              Originally posted by JerseyShop101
                              NP, tblues2005.

                              Another poster mentioned this earlier, they have a 100 for 100 (freeplay offer). For those looking to deposit the minimum $50 for this contest, springing up the extra $50 could be worth it to you. The rollover is steep (10x), but it could still be worth it to you.

                              Thanks JerseyShop. I will put that into consideration for sure. I might put enough to be a SBR Pro with them. I just depends on how much money I have at the time.
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                              • SBR_John
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-12-05
                                • 16471

                                #260
                                Pavy,
                                My idea did not make the final table. The devil is in the detail we would not be able to do my idea. To guarantee a set amount would mean we could not instantly announce the prizes each week because we dont know who deposited, guys enter every week. We did address the scalability issue and added that every 100 players who would participate over 600 would up the pot 2000. That way everyone is assured a better pay out than last year.
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                                • LUCKYCHUCK
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-19-09
                                  • 1059

                                  #261
                                  Looks like i will be playing for points instead of cash
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82839

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                                    Pavy,
                                    My idea did not make the final table. The devil is in the detail we would not be able to do my idea. To guarantee a set amount would mean we could not instantly announce the prizes each week because we dont know who deposited, guys enter every week. We did address the scalability issue and added that every 100 players who would participate over 600 would up the pot 2000. That way everyone is assured a better pay out than last year.
                                    Thanks John. Lets hope that enough people deposit so it would never become an issue.

                                    But you are saying that every week someone new can enter the contest. I noticed that in the rules it doesn't say who is eligible for end of the year prizes. That means that someone can enter the last 4 weeks and go 4-0 on 16 total games and win the whole thing. I believe last year there was a requirement about a minimum amount of weeks to be eligible for season end prizes.

                                    I may be overseeing this in the rules so maybe someone else can figure it out.
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                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-12-07
                                      • 12144

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                      Thanks John. Lets hope that enough people deposit so it would never become an issue.

                                      But you are saying that every week someone new can enter the contest. I noticed that in the rules it doesn't say who is eligible for end of the year prizes. That means that someone can enter the last 4 weeks and go 4-0 on 16 total games and win the whole thing. I believe last year there was a requirement about a minimum amount of weeks to be eligible for season end prizes.

                                      I may be overseeing this in the rules so maybe someone else can figure it out.
                                      Min plays: 48
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82839

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                        Min plays: 48
                                        Thanks.
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                                        • tomcast
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 06-19-06
                                          • 754

                                          #265
                                          Deposit done and I'm ready to go
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                                          • TWEETS
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-22-08
                                            • 2114

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by LUCKYCHUCK
                                            Looks like i will be playing for points instead of cash
                                            Really, are you that sad up that you cant scrape up $50 to send to DSI? You probably shouldnt be on a gambling forum.
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                                            • poker_dummy101
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-03-08
                                              • 6395

                                              #267
                                              so the min 48... that means you HAVE TO atleast have a $50 deposit in DSI 12 weeks prior to the end of the competition to be eligible for the grand prize, correct?
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                                              • Thor4140
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-09-08
                                                • 22296

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by TWEETS
                                                Really, are you that sad up that you cant scrape up $50 to send to DSI? You probably shouldnt be on a gambling forum.

                                                Tweets there will be two thousand of these type of guys and 50 that help the site out with a deposit. The 2 thousand will kill every pot for us 50. Its a win win except for the guys who deposit.
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                                                • BigDaddy
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-01-06
                                                  • 8378

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  Tweets there will be two thousand of these type of guys and 50 that help the site out with a deposit. The 2 thousand will kill every pot for us 50. Its a win win except for the guys who deposit.
                                                  sad but true.


                                                  it really hurts the players that deposit and makes no sense but what can we do about it?


                                                  i dont send 50 i win peanuts i do send 50 i will get that 50 back most likely + money so its a +EV bet for me
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                                                  • JerseyShop101
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 09-04-08
                                                    • 2704

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                    Tweets there will be two thousand of these type of guys and 50 that help the site out with a deposit. The 2 thousand will kill every pot for us 50. Its a win win except for the guys who deposit.
                                                    With the guaranteed payout of 5K to the real players, it is still better than last year.

                                                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                    It's going to be 10,000 cash and points to the winners with a guarentee of $5,000 given out each week. If we don't reach $5000 then we will give the difference to those with a perfect record that week.
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                                                    • TWEETS
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-22-08
                                                      • 2114

                                                      #271
                                                      Unless you are just a horrible capper, you should easily triple your money on a $50 investment. Sounds like I'm going to be at DSI for a while because I went ahead and put in a 100 to get the 100 in freeplay, however, that has a 20x rollover plus all BTP money will have a rollover. Might get it rolled over by football season next year.
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82839

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                        $50 can be in your account when you join or anytime before your first BeatThePrick play is off the board at game time.

                                                        If you don't make it you can still get it in before the following week.
                                                        Must deposit $50+ to Diamond Sportsbook to be eligible. Players with balances still must deposit.
                                                        Minimum Plays 48
                                                        I'm trying to piece together everything but it appears to me that the latest you can deposit to be eligible for the prizes is the 5th week else you won't be able to win prizes because the 48 play minimum can't be fullfilled.

                                                        So after the 5th week no one should be allowed to sign in. Because everyone allowed to sign in after the 5th will automatically be only be playing for points hence diluting the cash prizes even more.

                                                        Am I reading this all right? It's very confusing..
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                                                        • pavyracer
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 82839

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by JerseyShop101
                                                          With the guaranteed payout of 5K to the real players, it is still better than last year.
                                                          This didn't pass through. SBR_John's idea was voted down. There is a good possibility of prizes being less that 5K per week depending on the number of free loaders beating the prick.
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                                                          • JerseyShop101
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 09-04-08
                                                            • 2704

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            This didn't pass through. SBR_John's idea was voted down. There is a good possibility of prizes being less that 5K per week depending on the number of free loaders beating the prick.
                                                            Thats terrible news.

                                                            Now, the scammers who make just 16 ghost acoounts to guarantee a perfect 4-0 week, will be affecting the real players cash winnings.
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                                                            • mtneer1212
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-22-08
                                                              • 4993

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by JerseyShop101
                                                              Thats terrible news.

                                                              Now, the scammers who make just 16 ghost acoounts to guarantee a perfect 4-0 week, will be affecting the real players cash winnings.
                                                              Judging by the last couple of contests like the 128 man tournament, I think Lou has become vigilant on ghosts.
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                                                              • JerseyShop101
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 09-04-08
                                                                • 2704

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by TWEETS
                                                                Unless you are just a horrible capper, you should easily triple your money on a $50 investment. Sounds like I'm going to be at DSI for a while because I went ahead and put in a 100 to get the 100 in freeplay, however, that has a 20x rollover plus all BTP money will have a rollover. Might get it rolled over by football season next year.

                                                                I read the rollover is 10x, still steep though, especially if the bonus can only be used in straight wagers. (This rule under their 100% promotion contradicts their "House Rules" which states that you can use it for parlays and teasers).

                                                                  • Deposit $100 and get $100:
                                                                  • Fund your account and get a $100 free sports bonus, up to $100. Valid for new players and reactivations only.
                                                                  • Promotion valid from 12/14/2009 to 02/02/2015



                                                                  • Conditions & Restrictions:
                                                                    • Deposit amount $100
                                                                    • 10 Time Rollover
                                                                    • Credit card deposit applies
                                                                    • Max Bonus $100

                                                                  • One bonus per account per household.
                                                                    If eligible, the 100% bonus will be applied to your betting account up to 24 hours after your initial deposit.

                                                                    The maximum bonus payable as part of this promotion is $100 regardless of the deposit amount.
                                                                    The 100% bonus is in the form of a free play.
                                                                    Bonus only applies to straight wagers on the spread and totals.
                                                                    Not available for Moneybookers or Neteller deposits.



                                                                Under House Rules:

                                                                Basic Free Plays Rules 1. Free Plays can only be wagered on:
                                                                • • Football (NFL / NCAA)
                                                                • • Basketball (NBA / NCAA / WNBA)
                                                                • • Major League Baseball
                                                                • • NHL
                                                                • • Soccer

                                                                2. The minimum deposit eligible to apply for a free play is $300 (it may vary according to the promotion).
                                                                3. They can be used only on straight wagers, parlays and teasers


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                                                                • pats3peat
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-23-05
                                                                  • 1163

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Johns idea really needs to go through, 5k minimum guaranteed in real cash.
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                                                                  • Naz18
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-10-09
                                                                    • 4277

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Wish it was a different book..
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                                                                    • DaColts
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-07-07
                                                                      • 1185

                                                                      #279
                                                                      What's the best and easiest way to depoist with DSI from the US?
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                                                                      • tltaylor89
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 06-19-09
                                                                        • 19610

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by DaColts
                                                                        What's the best and easiest way to depoist with DSI from the US?
                                                                        Originally posted by DaColts
                                                                        What's the best and easiest way to depoist with DSI from the US?
                                                                        Originally posted by DaColts
                                                                        What's the best and easiest way to depoist with DSI from the US?
                                                                        Originally posted by DaColts
                                                                        What's the best and easiest way to depoist with DSI from the US?
                                                                        ** just go into a Walmart.
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