
Is this War good for the United States ecomomy?
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imgv94SBR Posting Legend
- 11-16-05
- 17192
#1Is this War good for the United States ecomomy?Tags: None -
indy62SBR Sharp
- 07-21-07
- 321
#2i would say yes.more magazine sales news watching(ads)news papers then there are the arms that need to be manufactured..and there are jobs(blackwater,boeing)and thelist goes onComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#3wars are great for economies periodComment -
DestroyerSBR Sharp
- 11-19-07
- 416
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HedgeHogSBR Posting Legend
- 09-11-07
- 10128
#5Depends on whether your look is long term or short term. Long term is a definite No. The big increase in the national debt has to eventually be paid. And don't forget about the political ramifications. A better question is whether this is a moral War, and that too is a No, IMO.Comment -
ritehookSBR MVP
- 08-12-06
- 2244
#6The war has been disastrous to the US economy. The federal deficit is at an all-time high, fuel prices are at record levels, and worst, too many US soldiers have died fighting this senseless war.
President Bush should stop policing the world and fix the domestic problems that exists in the US like crime, health care, education, and the federal deficit.Comment -
The SeerSBR Posting Legend
- 10-29-07
- 10641
#7The war has been disastrous to the US economy. The federal deficit is at an all-time high, fuel prices are at record levels, and worst, too many US soldiers have died fighting this senseless war.
President Bush should stop policing the world and fix the domestic problems that exists in the US like crime, health care, education, and the federal deficit.Comment -
thezbarSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-29-06
- 6422
#8This"war" is a waste of time and money. The country is printing extra money to pay for it thus weakening our position in the world economy. Its a foriegn policy that has failed with little or no hope for the future. There are more cost effective ways of dealing with certain issues. The lost of live in this situation is sinful, the united states needs to correct this mess. The sooner the better!Comment -
curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
- 9093
#9Not only is the war a complete disaster for the US economy, but the root cause of the war is an even bigger disaster. Why is it in "US interests" for the US to project power into the Middle East? Oil If it wasn't for oil you wouldn't hear anything about the Middle East. Why does oil still have any importance 34 years after the first "oil shock"? Because the US Congress never even tried to develop a sane energy policy that would make oil irrelevent. The US energy policy is and has been for decades, projecting US power into areas which contain oil in order to ensure easy access to cheap oil for companies friendly to the interests of the US. The shah was set up to enforce this policy of cheap oil. Sadaam was supported in support of this policy. When Sadaam wanted to take action against Kuwait for slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields and stealing Iraqi oil, the US gave Sadaam the green light. Monumental blunders by every US administration since that day have created the mess that the US is now in.
All of this could have been easily avoided. Alternatives to oil exist which do not sound like they came out of a science fiction book. If the US Congress had made developing these alternatives the number 1 US domestic policy issue after the embargo in '73, then the foreign policy disasters which have come from continued US dependence on mideast oil would have been avoided.
Worse still, these alternatives would have created millions of jobs in the Western hemisphere and totally changed the US balance of payments.
The refusal of the so-called "leaders" of the United States to address this issue of getting the US off of its dependence on imported oil is one of the worst domestic economic policy disasters of recorded human history. We will pay a heavy, heavy price for this failure for generations to come.Comment -
BrentCrudeSBR MVP
- 11-16-05
- 4665
#10All presidents in the past 100 years need war to boost the economy.
I could prattle on endlessly as to the trouble this country is in because we have just had a shadow puppet government for almost 100 years.You had clowns from Wilson,FDR,Truman,JFK,LBJ to now Bush who are just laughable inept and or deviant figureheads manipulated by the world banking families that could care less about the citizens of this country.Oh sure,some of the peon citizens on top of the pyramid ponzy scheme are doing ok collecting entitlements or working Keynesian makework jobs for the government or getting sweetheart Tony Soprano government contracts.What about the younger wage slave schmucks in the private sector who are left to sink or swim because they are on the bottom of the pyramid scheme?These poor idiots have to fend for themselves and pay their way and help pay for things like social security and medicare that they will never see.Then there are less legitimate stable opportunities for these people because the socialist Keynesians squelched real meaningful economic development by burdoning free enterprise with excessive taxes,fees,entitlement contributions,regulations and legal litigation.etc.
We have a planned economy and central banks-federal reserve and there is no free market capitalism and national soverenity.Some idiot U.S. citizens are like fans of pro sports teams where they think the team is playing for them.People think they are shareholders in this country by being citizens and in reality they don't own a share in this country because we are sold out.
The pentagon can't even account for a couple trillion dollars lost in the past 20 years.The kids that go to war don't even realize that all of the politicians kids are forbidden to enlist in the military by their politician parents who vote for going to war. I think out of all the senators and congressman,one single kid named Johnson from South Dakota is the only politicians kid in the service?
Of course a country that spends money ''fiat currency''created out of thin air needs to keep inventing things like wars and made up disasters to spend money on to bolster a dead economy.I suppose around Christmas time if the parents go hog wild with credit cards going in debt buying toys,the kids will say that their Christmas present economy in the household is damn good too just as idiots here think that spending borrowed money on wars is good.Comment -
regularguySBR Wise Guy
- 09-12-07
- 781
#11In the last 10 years, in this country, you have seen one of the most massive redistributions of wealth from the many to the few, in the history of the world, and the "war" has been a key part of that process.Comment -
goldengoatSBR MVP
- 11-25-05
- 3239
#12it has been good for the corrupt scumbag elite getting rich through the blood of the ignorant or brainwashed but bad for the short and medium term interests of the other 98% of the countryComment -
ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
- 4827
#13War is NOT good for the economy... You have to redirect all of your resources and labor towards the war... That's like saying it's good for the body to become very ill so the cells all have something to do in repairing the body...
There is only ONE and I do mean ONE good thing war is good for and that is thinning out the population... This is it's primary function and ALWAYS HAS BEEN!!!!
BCrude you are a little inconsistant in your post... You describe the economy as being planned by the world's elite families (which I agree with) but then go back to the world where these "countries" have to plan wars to boost a dead economy... It just seems like you going back and fourth from one world to another... It is either controlled and planned or it isn't...
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Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
- 13764
#14Good for the economy? Do you know how much we, the people, are paying into this war?!
Who benefit? The weapon industry, and corporations like Halliburton. So I guess the question of good economics is a question of on which side of the fence you are.
As far as I'm concerned, aggressive war is a horrendous crime. Bush, Cheney, and their cronies deserve to stand trial for crimes against humanity, beginning with the most obvious, and most easily proven case: Guantanamo Bay.Comment -
White_TigerSBR Sharp
- 08-29-07
- 465
#15War = $$$$ we all know that. That's why they can sell weapons for billions of $.Comment -
Shark79SBR Posting Legend
- 11-19-07
- 11211
#16Recently heard that the US $ (dollar) will have a big hit next year ... my understanding is that it will fall down about a 3-4% compared to Euros ....Comment -
matskralcSBR High Roller
- 11-26-07
- 202
#17This gets at the basic idea. Wars, by definition, destroy resources and present enormous opportunity costs. There are a lot of things that our young men and women could be doing right now that would be far more productive in the long-term. Wars may provide a short-term boost to an economy, but generally result in medium- and long-term negative effects.Comment -
purecarnaggeSBR MVP
- 10-05-07
- 4843
#18have you seen how well Rockwell has been doing? And its not just the military, they are on fire as well in the commercial sector.Comment -
BrentCrudeSBR MVP
- 11-16-05
- 4665
#19By planned economy Sham I meant structured and confined by the new world order.
Sham,what I meant by a planned economy is how the world banking families have control over everything where they seem to have an accelerator and brake pedal steering and manipulating money,politics,war and trade to benefit their interests.I come from a large family where allot of my elderly uncles,great uncles and grand parents were flag raising patriotic authority figure worshiping citizens and it got many of them mamed or killed in wars.Growing up going to the public schools you were taught that FDR was a father figure that provided sustainance and looked out for everyone's welfare and knew what was best for us.As you got older you started looking at how that form of socialism raised havoc and took away the incentive of most people that were caught up in the dysfuction it wrought.I absolutely cringe when the oldtimers in my family that were in CCC camps during the depression rave about how wonderful it was.These old timers just submitted their lives to being socialist underlings without even realizing it.They talk about how rough it was growing up during the depression and at the same time they whine and moan about meals on wheels being late or other entitlement programs that they looted in later years not being good enough.It's almost like they want and need someone to watch their every move and take care of them.All the rugged individualism and independent spunk has been drained from them and they never make the effort to find out that the government isn't really looking out for their best interest or at least their grandchildrens best interests by providing a quality country with sound finances to live in.They are financially retarded about how an economy should run.hehe! These are the people that Tom Brokaw has labeled the greatest generation!!!!Ya,I suppose if you worship socialism they are the greatest generation that got us in the mess we are in today.
Once in awhile you hear of how some 70 year old guy got out of prison after being there 50 years wants to go back in stir because he misses it.Well,that's pretty close to the way I see my relatives living with their structured socialist entitlement way of thinking and life.It's like they are in a mental box where they dare not reach out to find out what lies beyond what the government tells them.It's sort of like the flat earth society.hehe!
I used to be a bit of a neocon myself where I would listen to Shaun Hannity but in the last few years he really grates on me and I realize what a phoney loudmouth the guy is.There really isn't much difference between the neocon republicans today as compared with the Keynesian socialists like FDR.Politics went full circle.That's still not to say that liberals are any better because they are even more dastardly with their controls and regulations.I guess libertarian is the only way to go for me.
Then you have neocon phoney Newt Gingerich showing up at every FDR celebration praising him and calling WW2 the good war.Liberals that will get you fired from a job for discrimination and sexual harrassment for saying a woman has a nice hair style today are perfectly ok with FDR putting hundreds of thousands of 3rd generation Japanese american citizens in prison camps and stealing their property and belongings.
Look what FDR did to blacks.He pretty much ran the sharecroppers out of business and relocated allot of blacks from independent living in rural areas to inner city blythe.Actually,when the blacks were persecuted before civil rights etc.and before the new deal and great society,they ran wonderful black communities and didn't want big government interference.After generations of the new deala nd great society,that way of thinking in the black community is a distant memory.Do you ever watch films of the old negro league baseball games?What dignity and respect the blacks had for each other back then as compared to today where they live in the nanny welfare state.They had it much rougher back then and there were very few kids who heard the phrase,who's your daddy.Comment
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