Would you pay to be a member of SBR?

[pavyracer]

I know JJ wouldn't pay to post here for sure.

[MJFtheGenius]

Simple answer, points and contests. I'm unaware of any other sites with a better system here than SBR...

If you have to pay for points then it kind of defeats the purpose

[Dirty Sanchez]

Depends on the content...but I would say yes because I've made some solid money off picks in MLB and Soccer.

[bobbyfk]

wow..I didnt know SBR points were putting food on the table for some

what about web hosting? keeping things running ship-shape here?..etc..

[2daBank]

Not sure. I'd always thought there should be 2 parts to the site: One where people can just fluff around, have fun, drop in every so often and give their 'locks', check out the sportsbook reviews, etc... and then the other where those who are more serious gamblers can give their plays daily, discuss betting strategy and Think Tank quality topics without having to deal with trolls.

But now I'm not sure. There are people who give out their plays every day after putting in the hard work to ensure the plays are decent and offer advice to fellow posters. For free. And to think of them paying a fee in order to continue to do this doesn't make much sense as they're already providing a lot of value to the site. Tough call.

Shari you so smart ...after i said yes if it got rid of some ppl i starting thinking wait a fukkin minute i along with many others should get a free pass even if it is a pay site

[chase1]

SBR pays us with points to be on here...I'm not doing a 180 and paying them to be a member.

[poker_dummy101]

we are already paying by losing at sportsbooks

i know i know all of u fukks are winning though

[pavyracer]

we are already paying by losing at sportsbooks

i know i know all of u fukks are winning though

You should be surprised on how many of the people who sign up here for point contests actually ever deposit at the books.

[MJFtheGenius]

As a paid poster If it means an increase in my hourly wage then I am for it

[tunaguitar76]

of course not, it would defeat the purpose. If i wanted to pay for information or picks.. I wouldn't be on a message board to begin with. It's unlikely to happen anyway.. I think it would be terrible for their business for a number of reasons.

Aren't the points provided so you use the offers you find here and not someplace else? I can't think of any other reason to offer them.

[EmpireMaker]

that would be the quickest way to make this place a ghost town !!!!

[SBR_John]

Never say never I guess but a pay site is not in the 5 year strategic business plan at last check. What you will see more is SBR heavily rewarding those who have funded sportsbook accounts and converesly watering down the rewards for those who do not have a funded sponsor account. SBR is kind of a 'get paid' site but starting soon and into the future those benefits will be focused on those who are active players.

[obamaismyuncle]

Never say never I guess but a pay site is not in the 5 year strategic business plan at last check. What you will see more is SBR heavily rewarding those who have funded sportsbook accounts and converesly watering down the rewards for those who do not have a funded sponsor account. SBR is kind of a 'get paid' site but starting soon and into the future those benefits will be focused on those who are active players.

[THE PROFIT]

here's the problem. There would have to be a lengthy free trial. I love this site, love the info, love the guys here, its great during football season & college hoops. Solid advice, solid picks, PT is great for slow time when not capping, love the contests, the points, the store, but if it had been a pay site I would probably not know any of this because I would never have joined.

SBR makes its money from the books, the books pay because of the traffic seeing their advertisements & promotions & the traffic are sports betting enthusiasts who are their demographic market. I know you say that charging would bring in more serious gamblers who are better for the sponsors, but theres alot of guys here who have alot to offer this forum who would not pay, and would in turn really hurt the sponsors.

So SBR, if you need money, charge the books more, they'll pay it. Posters won't! But my suggestion would be to leave shit alone

[tunaguitar76]

my suggestion would be to leave shit alone

looks like it's safe for now from what sbr_john said. Although.. if the poker thing takes off... I wouldn't be surprised to see things move in that direction faster.

[3PtShooter]

what would i receive different if this became a pay service,,at 1st thought I say no because I would not pay for a tout sevice such as mike warren, marc lawerence etc..

[shari91]

SBR makes its money from the books, the books pay because of the traffic seeing their advertisements & promotions & the traffic are sports betting enthusiasts who are their demographic market. I know you say that charging would bring in more serious gamblers who are better for the sponsors, but theres alot of guys here who have alot to offer this forum who would not pay, and would in turn really hurt the sponsors. So SBR, if you need money, charge the books more, they'll pay it. Posters won't! But my suggestion would be to leave shit alone

Do you really think SBR makes the majority of its money from advertising revenue? If you're ever bored, take a little peek around the Internet and look at how much money books pay out to affiliates. The big money is made each time someone clicks a banner, deposits money into a book and loses. And that money is received from that poster into perpetuity regardless if they are still an active member of SBR or not. As long as you're funding that book that you signed up with through the banner, SBR is making cash.

If those people who weren't willing to pay left SBR tomorrow, not only would they be replenished by those who would prefer this site steered clear of the inane rubbish that seems to flood it from time to time and actually have money to gamble with as opposed to the high number here who seem to solely exist on the site for free points and/or to troll, but massive revenue would still be pouring in via its affiliate programs.

[pavyracer]

Shari you are very wrong on this one. For every 9 squares that los3 $25 dollars at the books there is one sharp that kills the books for thousands. Guys like Fishhead, Nicky Santoro, Chi Archie, Paco and myself never lose at the books so SBR gets zero affiliate money when we sign at books. As long as there are sharps in the game they will always surpass the deposits that the wannabe squares deposit every day. I remember there was a very well known poster here (won't reveal his name) but he was so excited when he made a $41 dollar bet on a -175 line during the WC and said it was his biggest bet ever. Off course the square bet he made lost and SBR got his $10 affiliate check from him enough to pay the bills for 1 min. Most people who deposit after joining here bet no more than $10 a game. The ones who win bet much more.

[Doug]

Shari you are very wrong on this one. For every 9 squares that los3 $25 dollars at the books there is one sharp that kills the books for thousands. Guys like Fishhead, Nicky Santoro, Chi Archie, Paco and myself never lose at the books so SBR gets zero affiliate money when we sign at books. As long as there are sharps in the game they will always surpass the deposits that the wannabe squares deposit every day. I remember there was a very well known poster here (won't reveal his name) but he was so excited when he made a $41 dollar bet on a -175 line during the WC and said it was his biggest bet ever. Off course the square bet he made lost and SBR got his $10 affiliate check from him enough to pay the bills for 1 min. Most people who deposit after joining here bet no more than $10 a game. The ones who win bet much more.

Then the books lose overall by having a link to SBR ?

I think not !

[shari91]

Shari you are very wrong on this one. For every 9 squares that los3 $25 dollars at the books there is one sharp that kills the books for thousands. Guys like Fishhead, Nicky Santoro, Chi Archie, Paco and myself never lose at the books so SBR gets zero affiliate money when we sign at books. As long as there are sharps in the game they will always surpass the deposits that the wannabe squares deposit every day. I remember there was a very well known poster here (won't reveal his name) but he was so excited when he made a $41 dollar bet on a -175 line during the WC and said it was his biggest bet ever. Off course the square bet he made lost and SBR got his $10 affiliate check from him enough to pay the bills for 1 min. Most people who deposit after joining here bet no more than $10 a game. The ones who win bet much more.

I understand what you're saying but I don't agree Pavy. Did you sign up through SBR? I strongly suspect the majority of the 'sharps' on this site were members of those books before they ever posted on SBR. Yes, a few of them may have signed up through a banner, but one aspect of being a 'sharp' is to maximize your money by finding the best first-time deposit bonus and the best ones are rarely offered here. So the 'sharps' for the most part need to be taken out of the equation and just thought of as regular clients of the book.

What I'm referring to is your every day poster here at SBR. There are far more of them then there are Nicky's, Paco's or Pavy's. Even if the 'squares' are small-time bettors, they're filling their account with deposits no matter how large or minimal. SBR will get a cut of that money as long as that person continues to lose and by very definition of their being 'square', they will. That money adds up rather quickly.

[SBR_John]

Pavy sometimes you make sense. For starters there are no sharps except for billy walters and a handful of guys like him. Maybe by your definition you lose less than coin flipping squares but I hate to be the bearer of terrible news to you but you are no sharp. Or prove me wrong. I'll bet you even money you can not finish in the top 100 in BTP a contest filled with squares. You won't and if you do you will lose. "Sharp" is kind of a myth. There are about 5 guys in the world that are truly sharp and thats it. Pinny has kicked out like 4 players in 12 years and you are not one. Everyone aside from about 5 guys is some variation of a square.

[ngates815]

My question is..............What would we be paying for?


Annnnnddddd....IF they started charging, wouldn't 80 percent of the posters move to one of the other forums?

[MJFtheGenius]

Pavy sometimes you make sense. For starters there are no sharps except for billy walters and a handful of guys like him. Maybe by your definition you lose less than coin flipping squares but I hate to be the bearer of terrible news to you but you are no sharp. Or prove me wrong. I'll bet you even money you can not finish in the top 100 in BTP a contest filled with squares. You won't and if you do you will lose. "Sharp" is kind of a myth. There are about 5 guys in the world that are truly sharp and thats it. Pinny has kicked out like 4 players in 12 years and you are not one. Everyone aside from about 5 guys is some variation of a square.

You tell em Johnny

I am one of the few sharps

I am wise

[nadal fan]

hell yes it is an awesome site to be on

[MJFtheGenius]

We would lose so many members if we asked for any payment

it will never happen

[Brock Landers]

i'd pay them with my picks, no cash money though.

[HUSALAH]

i would if anyone else on here would but im guessing they are mostly pretty broke, so actually yes because only the talanted would most likely remain. Maybe 20 bucks a year or something and hopefully we would have more poker tourneys and such.

[HUSALAH]

whats a good baseball pick for tomorrow, maybe give me two, ill bet them both and show u.

[HUSALAH]

brock or anyone else but i was referring to brock

[beanbag]

sure..its only money dude.

[rm18]

$200 a month, raised greatly by the point system

[Dark Horse]

Pavy sometimes you make sense. For starters there are no sharps except for billy walters and a handful of guys like him. Maybe by your definition you lose less than coin flipping squares but I hate to be the bearer of terrible news to you but you are no sharp. Or prove me wrong. I'll bet you even money you can not finish in the top 100 in BTP a contest filled with squares. You won't and if you do you will lose. "Sharp" is kind of a myth. There are about 5 guys in the world that are truly sharp and thats it. Pinny has kicked out like 4 players in 12 years and you are not one. Everyone aside from about 5 guys is some variation of a square.

From five sharps in the world to not finishing in the top 100 in BTP? Just exactly how do you squeeze that into the same paragraph?

I'm willing to make a bet with you. The odds will be stacked against me astronomically, so this will not be a even odds bet. PM me if you're willing to go there, and I will give you the prop. You can then decide to accept or decline. You can set the odds, that I will accept as long as they're reasonable.

[beanbag]

at 200 per month there better be some sweet prizes!!! haha

[yisman]

YES of course.. and we all would be dumb not to pay the 14.95$ a month..

we get each day 6 pts for being here. that is close to 1$ worth of cash.

So that means you get 30$ cash a month.. minus the 15$ for the fee.. you are still up 15$.. so you are now paid 15$ to post per month..

this sure beats every other forum worldwide that offers you 0 to post there..

actually, if we were paying, it wouldn't make sense for the forum to continue to pay us.

Regardless, you're seriously overvaluing points. With the recent inflation, each point is down to a value of about 6 cents. So you're being paid approximately 36 cents a day or about $11 a month.

You'd trade $14.95 for $11?

[VTranX]

This site was built around letting people know what books are good and ones that are not. Just letting you guys know.