Unadvertised special from DSI (Diamond Sports - rated A-)

**Illusion** · 08-23-05, 03:07 PM

Sounds good, thanks for the info Mud.

**SBR_John** · 08-23-05, 03:57 PM

Tis the season. I think we will see a ton of these offers over the next 4 weeks.

Players remember: Try to max out the signup bonus; its a 1 time deal.

We get players telling us they signed up with Pinnacle and they just wanted to test them with a $100 deposit and then a few days later they decide they love the book and send in $5000. Total bonus = $10 (10% of $100). And there is not a thing we can do to help those guys.

**Mudcat** · 08-23-05, 04:06 PM

Good point.

FWIW, this deal at DSI is not just for sign-ups but also for "Welcome Back's." Check with Brian for your eligibility status.

But yeah, it sounds like it is a one time thing which players would be wise to max out - then you revert to the normal 20% freeplay reload bonus.

**Cobra** · 08-26-05, 05:06 PM

That 30% free play has a 4 time roll over.

**Mudcat** · 08-26-05, 06:58 PM

Welcome to the forum Cobra.

Brian at DSI is telling me 3X rollover sir.

**Kaka** · 08-27-05, 01:07 AM

I have heard 4 times roll over as well - but still a f.... great offer

**jjgold** · 08-27-05, 08:57 AM

This bonus stuff is too confusing to me and just not worth it

**moses millsap** · 08-27-05, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

This bonus stuff is too confusing to me and just not worth it

Same here, lol. I'm content with the way things are and don't want to have to deal with hassles cashing out later. I'm lazy.

**Mudcat** · 08-27-05, 01:11 PM

If this stuff is confusing to you then fair enough, but saying it's not worth it is just nuts IMO.

I picked up an extra $600 in bonus money from this deal (maybe three hundred more if the Chargers go over 8.5 wins this year).

If you saw $600-$900 lying on the sidewalk would it be worth it to bend over and pick it up? For me it would be. And that's about the amount of extra effort that goes into earning this bonus money. All I have to do is place some bets at an "A" rated sportsbook - which is something I do every day anyway.

On top of that, it will be fun to follow the Chargers this year because of this free bet.

I dunno man. I really think you guys are over-complicating this stuff. It's pretty simple and hassle-free.

**Bill Dozer** · 08-27-05, 10:47 PM

Some new players are skeptical of any kind of deal that includes fine print. They don't want to think about tracking roll-overs (which some software can't even do adequately) and trying to quote the deal they got on the phone. The answer for that player is to go with reduced juice outs.

**pags11** · 08-28-05, 03:50 AM

yeah, the less tricky the bonus, the better...

**marc** · 08-28-05, 01:51 PM

There are only 2 types of bonuses that you ever have to be weary of. The first is the sticky bonus that carib and the betcom sites always offer. SOme players don't understand taht you can never withdraw the bonus, and that you risk losing the bonus once you withdraw some of your funds. The other thing you need to be careful about are the bonuses that come with 30 day or 60 day holds. For instance, the betwwts bonus is kind of nice. But if you win big right away, suddenly what was a 20% bonus witha 30 day hold may start to look more like a 5% bonus witha 30 day hold. Thats why I hate holding periods. I'd much rather give twice the rollover than commit to having my money trapped for a lenghty period of time.

As far as the rollover goes, that is the simplest part. Lets say the rollover is 5x. All you do is ask yourself, how much action do I think i can do in 1 week. You take that number, you divde it by 5, and thats how much you should deposits. And then you know in about a weeks time the roll is completed. The people that run into problems are the people who say wow, 205, or 25%, and they send way too much money, for the amount of action they plan to give. If you stick to the rules of never sending more that wha you plan to wager over the course of 1 or 2 days, rollover should never be a problem.

**why** · 08-28-05, 02:17 PM

Bonuses are to me a lot easier to understand then trying juggle 10 books at a time. Is it freeplay or 30% cash added to your account.

**Mudcat** · 08-28-05, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by why

Is it freeplay or 30% cash added to your account.

Both the 30% deposit bonus and the 10% futures bet are freeplays.

**Terris** · 08-29-05, 06:48 PM

its 4x rollover for me too. They told me that "most" of their bonuses have a 3x, but i guess 30% is a bit too high for 3x (even thou its "only" a freeplay not cash).
Anyway, thanks Mudcat

**Mudcat** · 08-29-05, 07:35 PM

I guess some people are getting 3X and others 4X. I definitely got 3X. It's right there in my transaction history.

Dunno what's up with that.

**rara51** · 08-30-05, 12:34 PM

Hey Mudcat Its Rara51 Just A Quick Question . Ive Got Close To 3000 Dimes Of Free Play To Lay On Nfl Future Totals (wins + Loses) Whats The Best Way To Bank Some Cash (PLAYS ETC...?) (OH BY THE WAY BRIAN AT DSI TOLD ME THAT SINCE YOUR POST SAID ITS A 3X ROLL OVER HE'LL HONOR IT HOWEVER ITS OFFICIALLY A 4X ROLL)

**Mudcat** · 08-30-05, 01:18 PM

Well it was not my intention to create controversy about the rollovers. I was told 3X, I personally got 3X, and so that's what I reported. That was good of Brian to honor that for you anyway.

rara, are you looking for a mathematical method to maximize the amount of guaranteed cash to come from the freeplays (i.e. - hedging) or are you looking for capping advice on team performance projections? (Because I'll tell you right now, when it comes to this kind of capping, I don't consider myself much more reliable than a coinflip. My mind is on MLB right now. There are some much more NFL knowledgable people around here though.)

**rara51** · 08-30-05, 06:52 PM

im also still busy with baseball however i have free money and just need direction on what to do with it can you suggest any good places that could advise me?

**Mudcat** · 08-30-05, 07:57 PM

Well if you are looking for ideas on good value for NFL team totals futures, I'd say start a thread right here. You'll get some suggestions. Maybe split your money between a few of them.

If you just want to mathematically maximize the amount of guaranteed cash, you would basically just do something like this (I think you're saying it's a $3000 freeplay so I'll use that.)

Take as much of a dog as you can with the freeplay. Let's say

Tenn OVER 6.5 +105 (to win $3150)

Then you'd have to bet them UNDER 6.5 somewhere else. I won't start checking all the books right now but say you could get it Tenn UNDER 6.5 at -120, you could throw $1725 (to win 1437).

No matter what happens, you're guaranteed to turn your $3000 freeplay into $1425 or $1437 cash.

I don't know if you want to tie up funds for that long though.

I'd suggest sticking with O/U numbers that are uneven. I'm not sure what they'll be doing with pushes on these. Normally DSI just gives you back your freeplay, but I'm not sure how that would work with a long-term futures bet like this. I guess I should ask about this tomorrow.

**square** · 08-30-05, 08:05 PM

Brian is an honest , hardworking guy have known him and several family members for many years but ENOUGH on the dsi advertising here guy's.

As we all know dino, and david are not honest period and of-course "A" is running that show now, which is a solid "out" BUT STOP advertising here please enough on dsi.

If you want MARKETING guy's then PAY the $ to be up-top here easy !

**jjgold** · 08-30-05, 08:26 PM

what is website for DSI?

What is website for Legendz?

**square** · 08-30-05, 08:34 PM

thanks j.

**Terris** · 08-30-05, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

what is website for DSI?

What is website for Legendz?

700+ posts and now i know why...spamming sucks my friend, if you know SBR you MUST know that you will find a link to those bookies here...