Favorite USA president

[brooks85]

abraham lincoln by far, almost freed this country from Europe, until they had him assassinated

imagine how great this country could be if we were not built on the gold standard.

[losturmarbles]

abraham lincoln by far, almost freed this country from Europe, until they had him assassinated

imagine how great this country could be if we were not built on the gold standard.

[brooks85]

exactly

everyone needs to watch the documentary - the secret of oz

[philswin]

Winner of the cold war - Ronald Reagan

[losturmarbles]

exactly

everyone needs to watch the documentary - the secret of oz

what does the gold standard have to do with it?

[brooks85]

who owns the gold?

lincoln wanted to use greenbacks - silver dollars. Silver which the US owned.

[losturmarbles]

We're not on the gold standard. It was all confiscated by FDR. (yes, the same guy people in this thread actually think is the best President ever)

Individuals own the gold. The problem arises when you have a private bank with no transparency issuing and manipulating the currency. ie the federal reserve. It creates money out of thin air and loans it with interest to the central bank, who loans it to other banks, who loan it to businesses or individuals. So everyone down the line is making money off the debt. But the only way for the debtor to pay off the debt and cover the interest is by using more money that was created out of thin air and loaned with interest down the line to someone else.

This ultimatly leads to inflation, the direct theft of the value of our money by the monetary system we use.

Ron Paul on going back to the gold standard:

[brooks85]

yes i know we are not on the gold standard, thats why I said if we were not built on the gold standard. I suggest you watch the documentary if you would like to learn more because the same grip that held us with the gold standard, is the same hand squeezing now.

[brooks85]

and "individuals" do not own the gold

I mean im not talking about jewelry and bracelets

[acarmelo1]

You should just stop printing more bills

[brooks85]

is that what they teach in panama?

[losturmarbles]

yes i know we are not on the gold standard, thats why I said if we were not built on the gold standard. I suggest you watch the documentary if you would like to learn more because the same grip that held us with the gold standard, is the same hand squeezing now.

there is no grip if it's done in a private market and not a government monopoly. the gold standard wasn't/isn't the problem.

[brooks85]

watch the documentary if you would like to learn more about it

[losturmarbles]

and "individuals" do not own the gold

I mean im not talking about jewelry and bracelets

sure they do. Do you own your land?

are you talking about physically holding the gold? certificates or electronic entries would still be used.

gold-pay.com

[gryfyn1]

I am no expert in this field, didn't Oswald have to fire off so many PERFECT shots in a very short period of time at a moving target.

Yes, and it was very doable by a top ranked marine sharpshooter, which Oswald was - he rountinley ranked perfect or near perfect on shooting tests against targets further than the shot with which he killed Kennedy.

[brooks85]

how naive

so "individuals" also own the diamonds then?

[losturmarbles]

the diamonds?

[acarmelo1]

if you stop printing more money, then the money you have now will have more value.

[Sunde91]

Thomas Jefferson, no contest.

Washington is greatest hero.

Lincoln is laughably overrated.

[brooks85]

the diamonds?

thats not an answer, that I am aware of


im not trying to be rude but the fact is I was in your shoes, clueless about the subject, like 90% of the world, probably more. And it is not just something in America, the world is owned, controlled and managed, not by governments.

If you would like to be educated on the subject, you should watch the documentary.

[losturmarbles]

if you stop printing more money, then the money you have now will have more value.

who cares about that if you can create more money and create more debt owed to you by the very action of creating more money?

[losturmarbles]

thats not an answer, that I am aware of


im not trying to be rude but the fact is I was in your shoes, clueless about the subject, like 90% of the world, probably more. And it is not just something in America, the world is owned, controlled and managed, not by governments.

If you would like to be educated on the subject, you should watch the documentary.

what diamonds? wtf are you talking about?

the only one that's clueless is the one that can't articulate what the fukin movie is about!

I plan on watching the movie, but honestly you're doing a horrible job defending what you present as it's premise.

[Chuck74]

Kenedy

[brooks85]

ya so for now on instead of watching anything I am going to go online and have people break it down for me, ya that makes sense....

And I dont know any other way to say diamond, than diamond

I am talking about diamonds, you know rocks?

Do you think diamonds are owned by individuals?

Well, just like gold, they are not. Gold and diamonds are commodities therefore they are controlled.

[losturmarbles]

ya so for now on instead of watching anything I am going to go online and have people break it down for me, ya that makes sense....

And I dont know any other way to say diamond, than diamond

I am talking about diamonds, you know rocks?

Do you think diamonds are owned by individuals?

Well, just like gold, they are not. Gold and diamonds are commodities therefore they are controlled.

So I guess oil, sugar, milk and any other commodity are NOT owned by individuals either.


and you're the one that injected the movie into the discussion.

[brooks85]

that would be correct, you are starting to get somewhere.

[acarmelo1]

So according to that, the goverment can go to my house and take all my milk from the fridge, since it those not belong to me?

[brooks85]

well seeing as the government does not control anything, no

However, lets say they did. The milk carton in your fridge probably accounts for .00000000000000000000001% of the milk industry, so I dont think you need to worry. And you can probably throw in another 10000 0's into that percentage.

Try replacing the European Union, deans food or Kraft, see how far you get. Those are the "individuals" who own milk.

[losturmarbles]

Get your yankee ass off my property this government controlled property

[brooks85]

if the government, or even a business as Pfizer showed us, wants your property, who do you think is going to win?

[losturmarbles]

You should change your avatar

[brooks85]

you should answer the question

[losturmarbles]

it's called private property rights which go back to individual rights and freedom. if the government seizes private property then we're not living in a free world with individual rights then are we?

[brooks85]

wrong again, you need to go educate yourself, because the government does seize private property. Private business's also seize private property.

[losturmarbles]

wrong again, you need to go educate yourself, because the government does seize private property. Private business's also seize private property.

go back and read my post again.