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acarmelo1SBR Hall of Famer
- 09-29-09
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#71Comment -
HoldEmHook!!SBR MVP
- 10-08-09
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#72I dont know our history like I should but as far as the first Persian gulf war, I know what happened I lived it for 14 months of my life and what transpired there may not be the exact reason, it was part of it......Comment -
stealthyburritoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-12-09
- 21562
#73
and the gulf war had nothing to do with the cold war, answered this in my previous post.Comment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
- 06-30-08
- 45360
#74it dealt the fatal blow to the USSR...took more than 500K worth of people to somewhat subdue that mess...its still a ticking time bombComment -
HoldEmHook!!SBR MVP
- 10-08-09
- 2962
#75not at all, the poor economic structures of the ussr could not sustain its military defense spending and they were forced out of their "superpower" facade.
fact is russia was not a superpower from about the early 60s on, but they were able to keep alive the perception that they were one.
gulf war was a totally unrelated event that had to do with the iraqis debt to other middle east countries that they could not pay back accrued from their conflict with the iranians.Comment -
ronjon619SBR MVP
- 09-06-09
- 3675
#76The Iraqi army Had soviet equip. and weapons........That was the soviets big selling point to our opposition world wide " buy from us its as good as the Americans" It was a surprise to us as well.....That was the reason for the build up of large number of troups and amount of equip......we prepared for a tough time due to the illusion that the soviets had instilled in the world but when push came to shove their CRAP suckedComment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
- 06-30-08
- 45360
#77The 1st Iraq war and the USSR collapsing are TOTALLY UNRELATED EVENTSComment -
stealthyburritoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-12-09
- 21562
#78The Iraqi army Had soviet equip. and weapons........That was the soviets big selling point to our opposition world wide " buy from us its as good as the Americans" It was a surprise to us as well.....That was the reason for the build up of large number of troups and amount of equip......we prepared for a tough time due to the illusion that the soviets had instilled in the world but when push came to shove their CRAP sucked
i wouldn't doubt that we played up the role of russian armaments and downplay our own role in equipping the iraqis.
at that point the russians were having a firesale on their military equip., attempting to get their hands on every last dollar to help their self-imploding economy. and by doing this they may or may not have gone through some unscrupulous channels to dump excess armament.Comment -
ronjon619SBR MVP
- 09-06-09
- 3675
#79Yeah, Saddam and Noreiga were both on the payroll from the Agency and the senior Bush sent troops to get both of them. That was the big deal back then.Comment -
HoldEmHook!!SBR MVP
- 10-08-09
- 2962
#80they certainly did but they also had tons of u.s. equipment as well. we aided saddam and his cronies in their conflict against the iranians during the 80s because at that time iranians were the biggest threat to us in the middle east (and one could argue they still are).
i wouldn't doubt that we played up the role of russian armaments and downplay our own role in equipping the iraqis.
at that point the russians were having a firesale on their military equip., attempting to get their hands on every last dollar to help their self-imploding economy. and by doing this they may or may not have gone through some unscrupulous channels to dump excess armament.Comment -
stealthyburritoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-12-09
- 21562
#81
at the time it was no secret we were backing the iraqis with economic and military aid.Comment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
- 06-30-08
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#82Comment -
ronjon619SBR MVP
- 09-06-09
- 3675
#83come on Brock. Second shooter.Comment -
stealthyburritoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-12-09
- 21562
#85
but our funding/backing of the iraqis had nothing to do with the iran-contra.Comment -
ronjon619SBR MVP
- 09-06-09
- 3675
#88I am no expert in this field, didn't Oswald have to fire off so many PERFECT shots in a very short period of time at a moving target.Comment -
HoldEmHook!!SBR MVP
- 10-08-09
- 2962
#90He didnt act alone.....thats why Ruby shot him and then Ruby died from natural causes 6 months later and his family to this day is nice and comfortable......and we did walk on the moon...... did Pat Garrett shot Billy the Kid......just picking a little....I love peoples different outlooks and opinions....makes things interestingComment -
HoldEmHook!!SBR MVP
- 10-08-09
- 2962
#91The Grassy KnollComment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
- 06-30-08
- 45360
#92He didnt act alone.....thats why Ruby shot him and then Ruby died from natural causes 6 months later and his family to this day is nice and comfortable......and we did walk on the moon...... did Pat Garrett shot Billy the Kid......just picking a little....I love peoples different outlooks and opinions....makes things interestingComment -
DougSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-10-05
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#93Reagan was solid, spell his name correctly though if you want me to take you seriously.Comment -
HoldEmHook!!SBR MVP
- 10-08-09
- 2962
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FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#97Herbert HooverComment -
Miley CyrusSBR Hustler
- 06-21-10
- 72
#98Bush Sr.Comment -
maquinaSBR High Roller
- 05-23-10
- 146
#99Clinton.Comment -
1tarheelfanSBR High Roller
- 03-22-10
- 125
#100from that list i would have to chose bill clinton.times under clinton were easier,with most people being in the green.clinton made a bill stating it was illegal for a employ to fire someone because they used the companys insurance to mush.he also allowed moms to take their kids where they worked,and the business had a nursery for the kids to be watched,and clinton also created alot of jobs under him,plus had a big surplus.the only thing i didnt like about clinton was nafta.his idea was great,becauce all the countries were suppose buy and sell equally.instead of us making things we outsourced like hell.the worst thing is my dad has two farms which mostly grows corn,and tobacco.the dumb smokers sued and it was the beginnig of destroying the industry.my dad got a tobacco buy out a few years ago,and the poundage on tobacco has been cut really bad.nobody put a gun to peoples head and told them to smoke.to those people i say **** you.iam sorry guy for my rant at the end.Comment -
JKSBR Rookie
- 10-19-08
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1tarheelfanSBR High Roller
- 03-22-10
- 125
#102i hope you are trying to be funny fishhead.those days were called the great depression and were the worst days in our countries history.i remember my grandparents tellign me it was a living breathing hell.my grandparent lived okay because they could grow there own food.we have a few rich people in our town,and they got it when their grandparents let people borrow money that were not as forunate as they were.the poor people lost everything they had because they couldnt pay it back.franklin d. rosovvelt had to save this country.just think what people in their 60s,and 70s would do without social security.these people would lose their home,and die of starvation.i hope you are joking fishhead.Comment -
stealthyburritoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-12-09
- 21562
#103i hope you are trying to be funny fishhead.those days were called the great depression and were the worst days in our countries history.i remember my grandparents tellign me it was a living breathing hell.my grandparent lived okay because they could grow there own food.we have a few rich people in our town,and they got it when their grandparents let people borrow money that were not as forunate as they were.the poor people lost everything they had because they couldnt pay it back.franklin d. rosovvelt had to save this country.just think what people in their 60s,and 70s would do without social security.these people would lose their home,and die of starvation.i hope you are joking fishhead.
but really, HH wasn't responsible for the great depression, by the time he got into office things were already set in motion toward a collapse that he couldn't stop. really the previous two administrations shoulder the blame for creating circumstance that led to economic collapse (harding and coolidge). by the time hoover reached office, there was nothing he could really do. he is more or less the goat for the depression because he was in office at the time of the stock market crash.
but his approach toward getting the country out of the depression was a big failure, that he gets responsibility for (mainly because he was a fairly incompetent guy).
coincidentally, harding, coolidge, and hoover were all republicans
but seriously, repubs or not they were all idiots, and they took a self centered approach (and were often challenged by members of their own party) toward domestic and international politics at the time (strategic non-binding commitments).Comment -
losturmarblesSBR MVP
- 07-01-08
- 4604
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