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  • acarmelo1
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    • 09-29-09
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    #71
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    • HoldEmHook!!
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      • 10-08-09
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      #72
      Originally posted by Brock Landers
      Chernobyl ENDED the Cold war and USSR..along with ending the Afghan war, read up on your history
      I dont know our history like I should but as far as the first Persian gulf war, I know what happened I lived it for 14 months of my life and what transpired there may not be the exact reason, it was part of it......
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      • stealthyburrito
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        • 05-12-09
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        #73
        Originally posted by Brock Landers
        Chernobyl ENDED the Cold war and USSR..along with ending the Afghan war, read up on your history
        chernobyl was certainly part of a grander scheme of failed soviet economic policies, and probably the most memorable.

        and the gulf war had nothing to do with the cold war, answered this in my previous post.
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        • Brock Landers
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          • 06-30-08
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          #74
          Originally posted by stealthyburrito
          chernobyl was certainly part of a grander scheme of failed soviet economic policies, and probably the most memorable. and the gulf war had nothing to do with the cold war, answered this in my previous post.
          it dealt the fatal blow to the USSR...took more than 500K worth of people to somewhat subdue that mess...its still a ticking time bomb
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          • HoldEmHook!!
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            • 10-08-09
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            #75
            Originally posted by stealthyburrito
            not at all, the poor economic structures of the ussr could not sustain its military defense spending and they were forced out of their "superpower" facade.

            fact is russia was not a superpower from about the early 60s on, but they were able to keep alive the perception that they were one.

            gulf war was a totally unrelated event that had to do with the iraqis debt to other middle east countries that they could not pay back accrued from their conflict with the iranians.
            The Iraqi army Had soviet equip. and weapons........That was the soviets big selling point to our opposition world wide " buy from us its as good as the Americans" It was a surprise to us as well.....That was the reason for the build up of large number of troups and amount of equip......we prepared for a tough time due to the illusion that the soviets had instilled in the world but when push came to shove their CRAP sucked
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            • ronjon619
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              • 09-06-09
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              #76
              Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
              The Iraqi army Had soviet equip. and weapons........That was the soviets big selling point to our opposition world wide " buy from us its as good as the Americans" It was a surprise to us as well.....That was the reason for the build up of large number of troups and amount of equip......we prepared for a tough time due to the illusion that the soviets had instilled in the world but when push came to shove their CRAP sucked
              Also, Iraqi supposedly had a battle tested Army. They had been fighting Iran for years. When the red, white and blue showed up, they folded faster than the French Army.
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              • Brock Landers
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                • 06-30-08
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                #77
                The 1st Iraq war and the USSR collapsing are TOTALLY UNRELATED EVENTS
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                • stealthyburrito
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                  • 05-12-09
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
                  The Iraqi army Had soviet equip. and weapons........That was the soviets big selling point to our opposition world wide " buy from us its as good as the Americans" It was a surprise to us as well.....That was the reason for the build up of large number of troups and amount of equip......we prepared for a tough time due to the illusion that the soviets had instilled in the world but when push came to shove their CRAP sucked
                  they certainly did but they also had tons of u.s. equipment as well. we aided saddam and his cronies in their conflict against the iranians during the 80s because at that time iranians were the biggest threat to us in the middle east (and one could argue they still are).

                  i wouldn't doubt that we played up the role of russian armaments and downplay our own role in equipping the iraqis.

                  at that point the russians were having a firesale on their military equip., attempting to get their hands on every last dollar to help their self-imploding economy. and by doing this they may or may not have gone through some unscrupulous channels to dump excess armament.
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                  • ronjon619
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                    • 09-06-09
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                    #79
                    Yeah, Saddam and Noreiga were both on the payroll from the Agency and the senior Bush sent troops to get both of them. That was the big deal back then.
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                    • HoldEmHook!!
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                      • 10-08-09
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                      they certainly did but they also had tons of u.s. equipment as well. we aided saddam and his cronies in their conflict against the iranians during the 80s because at that time iranians were the biggest threat to us in the middle east (and one could argue they still are).

                      i wouldn't doubt that we played up the role of russian armaments and downplay our own role in equipping the iraqis.

                      at that point the russians were having a firesale on their military equip., attempting to get their hands on every last dollar to help their self-imploding economy. and by doing this they may or may not have gone through some unscrupulous channels to dump excess armament.
                      That stuff was bought from the people that bought from Ollie North......The biggest patsy since Lee Harvey oswald.....
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                      • stealthyburrito
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                        • 05-12-09
                        • 21562

                        #81
                        Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
                        That stuff was bought from the people that bought from Ollie North......The biggest patsy since Lee Harvey oswald.....
                        you are referring to the iran-contra, totally unrelated event to the iraq-iran war.

                        at the time it was no secret we were backing the iraqis with economic and military aid.
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                        • Brock Landers
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                          • 06-30-08
                          • 45360

                          #82
                          Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
                          That stuff was bought from the people that bought from Ollie North......The biggest patsy since Lee Harvey oswald.....
                          so you are saying Oswald DIDN'T kill Kennedy?? This one is pretty simple, the head shot came from one place, and only one possible place....

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                          • ronjon619
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                            • 09-06-09
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                            #83
                            come on Brock. Second shooter.
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                            • Brock Landers
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                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45360

                              #84
                              Originally posted by ronjon619
                              come on Brock. Second shooter.
                              not a single chance in hell
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                              • stealthyburrito
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                                • 05-12-09
                                • 21562

                                #85
                                Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                                you are referring to the iran-contra, totally unrelated event to the iraq-iran war.

                                at the time it was no secret we were backing the iraqis with economic and military aid.
                                i actually shouldn't say these events are unrelated to one another.

                                but our funding/backing of the iraqis had nothing to do with the iran-contra.
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                                • ronjon619
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                                  • 09-06-09
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                  not a single chance in hell
                                  James Earl Ray was set up for the assaination of MLK. Could have happened with JFK also. You think Oswald acted alone that day?
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                                  • Brock Landers
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                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 45360

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by ronjon619
                                    James Earl Ray was set up for the assaination of MLK. Could have happened with JFK also. You think Oswald acted alone that day?
                                    yep, historical fact
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                                    • ronjon619
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                                      • 09-06-09
                                      • 3675

                                      #88
                                      I am no expert in this field, didn't Oswald have to fire off so many PERFECT shots in a very short period of time at a moving target.
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                                      • Brock Landers
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 06-30-08
                                        • 45360

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by ronjon619
                                        I am no expert in this field, didn't Oswald have to fire off so many PERFECT shots in a very short period of time at a moving target.
                                        look into it, not going to explain it now
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                                        • HoldEmHook!!
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                                          • 10-08-09
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                                          #90
                                          He didnt act alone.....thats why Ruby shot him and then Ruby died from natural causes 6 months later and his family to this day is nice and comfortable......and we did walk on the moon...... did Pat Garrett shot Billy the Kid......just picking a little....I love peoples different outlooks and opinions....makes things interesting
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                                          • HoldEmHook!!
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                                            • 10-08-09
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                                            #91
                                            The Grassy Knoll
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                                            • Brock Landers
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                                              • 06-30-08
                                              • 45360

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
                                              He didnt act alone.....thats why Ruby shot him and then Ruby died from natural causes 6 months later and his family to this day is nice and comfortable......and we did walk on the moon...... did Pat Garrett shot Billy the Kid......just picking a little....I love peoples different outlooks and opinions....makes things interesting
                                              you fukking fool, Jack Ruby died January 3, 1967, 6 months later LOL
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                                              • Doug
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
                                                Clinton rode Regans coat tail to success...... president makes such huge decissions, the results arent instant....Regan should have been on the list he was by far the best Pres. He saved social security...And didnt take shit off anyone
                                                Reagan was solid, spell his name correctly though if you want me to take you seriously.
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                                                • HoldEmHook!!
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                                                  • 10-08-09
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Doug
                                                  Reagan was solid, spell his name correctly though if you want me to take you seriously.
                                                  Sounds like you take yourself a little too seriuosly.....lighten up
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                                                  • ronjon619
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                                                    • 09-06-09
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
                                                    The Grassy Knoll
                                                    and what about the MAGIC BULLET?
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                                                    • HoldEmHook!!
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                                                      • 10-08-09
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                      you fukking fool, Jack Ruby died January 3, 1967, 6 months later LOL
                                                      Made you look it up huh.....It was meant in fun...just fueling thread.......One thing I bet we both agree on,,,,,Appetite for Desruction was the greatest debut album of all time......
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                                                      • Fishhead
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                                                        • 08-11-05
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                                                        #97
                                                        Herbert Hoover
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                                                        • Miley Cyrus
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                                                          • 06-21-10
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                                                          #98
                                                          Bush Sr.
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                                                          • maquina
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 05-23-10
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                                                            #99
                                                            Clinton.
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                                                            • 1tarheelfan
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-22-10
                                                              • 125

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by acarmelo1
                                                              1)Obama
                                                              2)Bush
                                                              3)Clinton
                                                              4) Lincon
                                                              5) Washington
                                                              6) Nixon
                                                              7) Kenedy
                                                              from that list i would have to chose bill clinton.times under clinton were easier,with most people being in the green.clinton made a bill stating it was illegal for a employ to fire someone because they used the companys insurance to mush.he also allowed moms to take their kids where they worked,and the business had a nursery for the kids to be watched,and clinton also created alot of jobs under him,plus had a big surplus.the only thing i didnt like about clinton was nafta.his idea was great,becauce all the countries were suppose buy and sell equally.instead of us making things we outsourced like hell.the worst thing is my dad has two farms which mostly grows corn,and tobacco.the dumb smokers sued and it was the beginnig of destroying the industry.my dad got a tobacco buy out a few years ago,and the poundage on tobacco has been cut really bad.nobody put a gun to peoples head and told them to smoke.to those people i say **** you.iam sorry guy for my rant at the end.
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                                                              • JK
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                                                                • 10-19-08
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                                                                #101
                                                                Last edited by JK; 06-25-10, 03:06 AM.
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                                                                • 1tarheelfan
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                                                                  • 03-22-10
                                                                  • 125

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                  Herbert Hoover
                                                                  i hope you are trying to be funny fishhead.those days were called the great depression and were the worst days in our countries history.i remember my grandparents tellign me it was a living breathing hell.my grandparent lived okay because they could grow there own food.we have a few rich people in our town,and they got it when their grandparents let people borrow money that were not as forunate as they were.the poor people lost everything they had because they couldnt pay it back.franklin d. rosovvelt had to save this country.just think what people in their 60s,and 70s would do without social security.these people would lose their home,and die of starvation.i hope you are joking fishhead.
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                                                                  • stealthyburrito
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                                                                    • 05-12-09
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by 1tarheelfan
                                                                    i hope you are trying to be funny fishhead.those days were called the great depression and were the worst days in our countries history.i remember my grandparents tellign me it was a living breathing hell.my grandparent lived okay because they could grow there own food.we have a few rich people in our town,and they got it when their grandparents let people borrow money that were not as forunate as they were.the poor people lost everything they had because they couldnt pay it back.franklin d. rosovvelt had to save this country.just think what people in their 60s,and 70s would do without social security.these people would lose their home,and die of starvation.i hope you are joking fishhead.
                                                                    i'm sure he was joking.

                                                                    but really, HH wasn't responsible for the great depression, by the time he got into office things were already set in motion toward a collapse that he couldn't stop. really the previous two administrations shoulder the blame for creating circumstance that led to economic collapse (harding and coolidge). by the time hoover reached office, there was nothing he could really do. he is more or less the goat for the depression because he was in office at the time of the stock market crash.

                                                                    but his approach toward getting the country out of the depression was a big failure, that he gets responsibility for (mainly because he was a fairly incompetent guy).

                                                                    coincidentally, harding, coolidge, and hoover were all republicans

                                                                    but seriously, repubs or not they were all idiots, and they took a self centered approach (and were often challenged by members of their own party) toward domestic and international politics at the time (strategic non-binding commitments).
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                                                                    • losturmarbles
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                                                                      • 07-01-08
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by KC
                                                                      Best Lincoln/FDR
                                                                      2 of the worst
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                                                                      • losturmarbles
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                                                                        • 07-01-08
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by ronjon619
                                                                        I am no expert in this field, didn't Oswald have to fire off so many PERFECT shots in a very short period of time at a moving target.
                                                                        around 4:10 in this video:

                                                                        Last edited by losturmarbles; 06-25-10, 02:37 PM.
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