US Customers and Pinnacle

[genyes]

Are there still some US customers of Pinnacle? If so, how are they accomplishing this?

[pats3peat]

Some u.s people probably have family/friends in Canada betting on pinnacle for them...

[SBR Lou]

Dial ---:---:----, ask for ------ and he guides you through the process. His fee is 10% but he is legit. This might get edited by a mod..

[BigBollocks]

Are there still some US customers of Pinnacle?

Yes. Most large punters are and have been the entire time.

If so, how are they accomplishing this?

I'd rather not get into detail about this on a message board. Those who are still around are meant to be there, and those who are no longer customers domestically are not meant to be there. I will say, however, that it is not even close to as difficult as pats is suggesting. GL...

[jjgold]

pinny full of american credit players

[SPECULATOR 13]

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ALL OF THE WISEGUYS IN Vegas!!! or anyone living there whom want to bet big!

If you do not have someone outside of the U.S.,you can do the following:

1)Open a account with a bank outside the usa,to have your winnings deposited there.This can be done through the Internet

2)You might need to hide your IP,this will help:
http://www.hide-my-ip.com/?id=167 or better

http://www.cirrushosting.com/windows-vps-hosting-canada.html

3)use canadian dollars,it's worth more and make for a good cover

[BigBollocks]

ALL OF THE WISEGUYS IN Vegas!!! or anyone living there whom want to bet big!

If you do not have someone outside of the U.S.,you can do the following:

1)Open a account with a bank outside the usa,to have your winnings deposited there.This can be done through the Internet

2)You might need to hide your IP,this will help:
http://www.hide-my-ip.com/?id=167 or better

http://www.cirrushosting.com/windows-vps-hosting-canada.html

3)use canadian dollars,it's worth more and make for a good cover

Completely unnecessary. Again, if you're a "big time player," than you already know what's required to play at Pinny from within the US.

Some of these suggestions are getting crazy. Taking out a fake name, betting in rubles rather than USD, flying to Montreal to click in your wagers, etc, is really stretching your imaginations. I know of a couple of guys within the US who pop the NFL maximums several times over, and both they and Pinny are completely on the up and up about the situation.

I won't go any further as I have nothing to gain by running my mouth, but y'all can put away your McGyver or CSI secret covert op plans in order to play at Pinnacle domestically. GL....

[SPECULATOR 13]

Completely unnecessary. Again, if you're a "big time player," than you already know what's required to play at Pinny from within the US.

Some of these suggestions are getting crazy. Taking out a fake name, betting in rubles rather than USD, flying to Montreal to click in your wagers, etc, is really stretching your imaginations. I know of a couple of guys within the US who pop the NFL maximums several times over, and both they and Pinny are completely on the up and up about the situation.

I won't go any further as I have nothing to gain by running my mouth, but y'all can put away your McGyver or CSI secret covert op plans in order to play at Pinnacle domestically. GL....

BUT BOLLOCKS ,if someone is not a HUGE player and want to bet from states and do not go(or cannot afford) to go down to the PINNY HQ in person and have "a understanding" with the boys than what else do you want them do?

[idontlikerocks]

i would like an answer to this as well. in english please.

[Justin7]

I have spoken with Henry, as well as their CFO. Pinnacle's policy towards US players is very clear - you cannot bet from the US.

If you do a lot of work, you *might* be able to get away with it. But realize, they have ways of ID'ing not just your IP address, but the proxy server you are using. I hope I am never involved in a dispute with a US player versus Pinnacle...

Make your life easy, and play at books that welcome your action... Unless you're betting 50k+ a week, then find an extra-national friend to move for you.

[idontlikerocks]

any chance pinnacle will sell their software to a company that welcomes u.s. action?

[jjgold]

Of course Pinny says not taking usa action

We believe him too

[louis]

You have to physically move to another country guys. You can still have a home in the U.S.A., but you would have to make all your bets from that other country.

Is it worth it just to bet at Pinnacle. Yes, if you are a full time pro - in this case then just move somewhere else. Otherwise, forget it.

All these other ideas are not going to work.

[pico]

damn, you guys should stop talking about this. if you're in the USA, stop using pinnacle, period. there is not that much to gain from pinnacle unless you're betting more than 6k per game.

if you're betting this much, you might as well get a condo in canada.

[jjgold]

who is running the sheets with USA players

[pico]

a win is a win, it won't make sense if you lose 10k at 20 cents juice vs 10k on a 8 cents juice. plus pinnacle does not always has the best line. go open a matchbook account and get a better line there.

also if you do parlays, pinnacle has 20 cents parlay lines, which is the same as other sites. they don't have if bets.

[jjgold]

pico can I set up a sheet with you?

5k settle?

[durito]

there is not that much to gain from pinnacle unless you're betting more than 6k per game.

that's ridiculous

there's just as much a % improvement of the odds no matter what you are betting.

over the course of an entire year, even a small time player will see huge savings at -105 vs -110.

[pico]

pico can I set up a sheet with you?

5k settle?

i don't take blow jobs as settlement for payment, jj

[pico]

that's ridiculous

there's just as much a % improvement of the odds no matter what you are betting.

over the course of an entire year, even a small time player will see huge savings at -105 vs -110.

then you should really use matchbook rather than pinnacle. because mathcbook always has better odds than pinnacle.

[durito]

then you should really use matchbook rather than pinnacle. because mathcbook always has better odds than pinnacle.

after you add the commission that's not the case about 50% of the time. throw in the lack of liquidity, lack of sports, etc, and pinnacle is still necessary -- though i play at matchbook a lot

[pico]

after you add the commission that's not the case about 50% of the time. throw in the lack of liquidity, lack of sports, etc, and pinnacle is still necessary -- though i play at matchbook a lot

let's do a little math here. pinny usually has 8 cents lines, for simplicity, that is -104 sides.

matchbook has 2 cents (before figure in the commission), for simplicity, that is -101 sides. with 2 cents commission, that is -101/.98= -103.06

-103.06 is still better than -104. if you're using pinny for better lines, then you should really use matchbook for even slightly better lines.

[increasedodds]

Do not use a proxy - they can figure that out.

Use dialup or your own virtual server. Either one is basically fool proof. Combine that with an Ontario ID and you are home free...

Sean