Further Proof that Pitching Wins

[mackave]

Tristan may no hit these bums

[mackave]

lmao guardians are gonna eat this bum fairbanks

[KRIT]

I don’t get the hype with the guardians. They probably get by Tampa, but these guys have no hitting and no power. I just don’t see how they can consistently manufacture runs. Just pitch around Ramirez and take your chance with everyone else. I get they have great pitching, but don’t see how they can consistently string together hits against playoff arms. These two teams might be the worst in the entire playoffs.

[Chief Wahoo]

Have to bump this up as this guy Nasher on fire. Kicking ass and taking names!

I'm back on Cleveland again, game two.
I'm multi tasking like a bunny rabbit at home here, I'll go into details later.
Right now, I got tons of real life house work going on.

Glasnow for TB can't go more than three innings, TB is going to have to fill six inning worth of pitching out of the bullpen, and TB's bullpen is not very dependable, very wild with all those wild pitches and hight walk ratio.

Once Glasnow is gone, I expect Clevelands sticks to do some damage off of that leaky pen/

Had a very nice day yesterday.

Clevelands is the play (-108 man to man pick 'em)
41/40 is the wager,

Be back later folks.

*not for nothing*
Your pal Nasher's football upset of the day.

Purdue +3 to win outright on the road agaist Maryland.

Want some?
Go get some.

[stevenash]

Have to bump this up as this guy Nasher on fire. Kicking ass and taking names!

Thank you for those kind words, I appreciate it.
One of the simple laws of gravity says what must come up, must come down.
I have a cooler in me that's due, it's inevitable.
In the meantime I'll try to sustain this streak.

Thank you ever so much for the shoutout again.

There's one game left in round one, that's the Mets and SD
I have no dog in that fight or series, I broke down that game, and there is IMO no value either way there.

I don't trust Basset at -140, and there isn't any value in Musgrove on the road in NYC at +120
Taking a big fat pass (no action at all) on this game.

If one is asking me if I have an opinion or a slight lean, I would probably say something non committal like "It wouldn't shock me if SD did win tonight's game".

In the NFL I do like one total, I like the OVER in the Browns game.
I'll see you guys later after I give my dogs and family some Sunday loving attention.
Sports and sports writing is fun and all, but priority number one is still family first.

Best of luck.
Like a bad check, I'll be back later.

[str]

Have to bump this up as this guy Nasher on fire. Kicking ass and taking names!

Great to see this.
Nice job Chief.

Keep up the solid work Nasher.

[stevenash]

Round 2
Series lines:

There's a couple of live dogs in this quartet of best of fives:

Atlanta -185
Philadelphia +155

Houston -220
Seattle +185

New York -210
Cleveland -175

Los Angeles -210
San Diego -175

I've been talking up Cleveland for over a month now.
I loved the way they ran down the Twins and the White Sox winning the AL Central.
Impressive.

I think they're on a magic carpet ride.

Conversely, the Yanks may be in a state of disarray.
The Judge story was one for the ages, it was also a big distraction as well.
Now Chapman is the distraction, he misses a practice, Boone suspends his ass.
There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes with the Yanks. a lot of not good.

I'm feeling Cleveland at very juicy plus odds.
The gun is cocked, locked and loaded, the finger is on the trigger.
I just haven't pulled the trigger.
Yet.

I'll post what I do here later.
Fade, pass, or tail, it's all good

[stevenash]

I'm on Philly to beat Atlanta +155 (Best of five series)
I'm also on the team formerly known as the Cleveland Indians to beat the New York Yankees +175 (Best of five series)

Even if I split and win one and lose one I still turn a profit.
That's just my style, I'm a spot play, underdog bettor.

I look for value in situations where I believe underdogs have a better than even chance of cashing, and even chance of winning, or reasons to believe can win based on the collection of statistics and data, which is the very definition of the business of sports analytics.

If one wants to talk about sports analytics and such with me, dial me up, I would like that.
Even if you're not big into sports analytics and don't think it's a big deal, that's fine, actually it's finer that fine, I would like to hear from those people. On two conditions, I dislike ignorance and disrespect.

Now isn't the time though.
I'll be back later.

Philadelphia +155 (Series)
50/78

Cleveland +175 (Series)
100/175

No game plays today.

[Shark]

You would not turn a profit if the Phillies win and Guardians lose..

[stevenash]

You would not turn a profit if the Phillies win and Guardians lose..

You have an eagle eye sir.
The point I was driving at, but neglected to mention, and that's on me and I appreciate you pointing it out is, what I meant to say, but did not, is if you bet two dog's at + money, equal money for each wager, you would turn a profit.

The point I wanted to make, which I did is I like the Cleveland bet better.

You sir, from a semantics stand point, is 100 percent spot on.
Thank you for pointing that out to me.
If I were in charge of dealing out karma points, I'd throw some your way.

It's all good.
Best of luck today.

[Goat Milk]

reg season means nothing

you have to pitch and hit when it counts

diving on loose balls in reg season basketball games makes ppl think you're better than you are

just see the utah jazz as a prime example

try so hard to get the 1 seed every year

bounced out of the 1st and 2nd round every year

true superstars don't care about worthless games

they show up when the lights are brightest

tigers had 5 cy young winners on 1 team, they got smoked by the hitting of the red sox in the playoffs

[Fred The Hammer]

I also took a flyer on the Phillies to win the series, but went $200 on Over 10.5 Live today and Eflin just bailed me out.

Robertson got hurt celebrating Harpers HR last game and Eflin is shaky AF as a closer. May come back to haunt Philly even if he holds on here

[KRIT]

Don’t see Cleveland getting past NY. They are a fun story, but don’t see how they score enough runs. If they do beat Yanks, they will need to win a lot of 2-1 kind of games.

My Mariners looking nice, they feel like they have the makeup of a team that can go all the way.

[stevenash]

reg season means nothing

you have to pitch and hit when it counts

diving on loose balls in reg season basketball games makes ppl think you're better than you are

just see the utah jazz as a prime example

try so hard to get the 1 seed every year

bounced out of the 1st and 2nd round every year

true superstars don't care about worthless games

they show up when the lights are brightest

tigers had 5 cy young winners on 1 team, they got smoked by the hitting of the red sox in the playoffs

I have mentioned several times, there are exceptions to every rule.
Like I also mentioned for every case you can make for hitting wins out over pitching, I can make two cases, and back it up, that pitching beats good hitting.

Without using the thin air in Denver as your primary and only talking point, which is true but not that relevant, why haven't the Rockies won a ring. (And only sniffed a championship just one time)

Some of those Rockies teams from twenty years ago had some of the most prolific lineups in the history of the game.

[stevenash]

Cleveland +140
50/70
(Bieber only)

Spot play here using the better starter theory is the primary reason for the play.
Bieber has been rock solid this season across thirty plus starts.

If you like the NYY, that's fine.
I'm not the be all and end all, don't even pretend to be.

Best of luck to all.

[Goat Milk]

Not sure but I always trust hitting over everything else

Rockies always had a good hitting field but they never really had stacked hitting lineups like other champions have had

I remember people on this site telling me the Mets were gonna beat the Royals in that WS because of all this great pitching.

I didn't watch much baseball that year.

You know how I capped that series literally?

I took one look at the Royals lineup, and I said, Alex Gordon hitting 8th/9th for the Royals? What the penetrate? What kind of lineup do you have to have for Alex Gordon to be hitting 8th/9th.

Then I just looked at the lineup, and I was like, there's no way any pitcher, I don't care who they are, is going to stop this lineup from getting on base and scoring.

Everyone on SBR on the Mets cause of pitching. Will never forget that.

Never forget that every single sport, no matter the sport, favors the offense. The problem in baseball, and I've said this before, and ppl have laulghed at me, is that the 7th hitter in the lineup is just as important as the 3rd hitter. In the playoffs, the 3rd hitter really isn't gonna get more at bats, and if so, it's 1 more at bat every few games or so.

It's not like basketball where a star player can just take over. You get your plate appearance and that's all you get. So when you have a balanced hitting lineup where everyone can carry their own weight, you are a contender.

It is very very easy to spot the world series in contenders in baseball with one look at the hitting lineup. That's why dodgers and astros have been so good last 5 years.

[Fred The Hammer]

Not sure but I always trust hitting over everything else

Rockies always had a good hitting field but they never really had stacked hitting lineups like other champions have had

I remember people on this site telling me the Mets were gonna beat the Royals in that WS because of all this great pitching.

I didn't watch much baseball that year.

You know how I capped that series literally?

I took one look at the Royals lineup, and I said, Alex Gordon hitting 8th/9th for the Royals? What the penetrate? What kind of lineup do you have to have for Alex Gordon to be hitting 8th/9th.

Then I just looked at the lineup, and I was like, there's no way any pitcher, I don't care who they are, is going to stop this lineup from getting on base and scoring.

Everyone on SBR on the Mets cause of pitching. Will never forget that.

Never forget that every single sport, no matter the sport, favors the offense. The problem in baseball, and I've said this before, and ppl have laulghed at me, is that the 7th hitter in the lineup is just as important as the 3rd hitter. In the playoffs, the 3rd hitter really isn't gonna get more at bats, and if so, it's 1 more at bat every few games or so.

It's not like basketball where a star player can just take over. You get your plate appearance and that's all you get. So when you have a balanced hitting lineup where everyone can carry their own weight, you are a contender.

It is very very easy to spot the world series in contenders in baseball with one look at the hitting lineup. That's why dodgers and astros have been so good last 5 years.

KC Mets? Didn't watch 1 pitch of that WS, but you can always pick out 1-2 examples that don't fit with everything else.

Don't know how old you are but that 88 Dodger team had the shittiest lineup I've ever seen vs the Bash Brothers McGwire, Canseco, and the rest of the A's. My REds couldn't hit half as well as Oakland either in 1990 but the A's lost both series badly.

Consistent deep lineup matters though and the Braves had that last year. A couple of aces and a bad ass pen doesn't hurt either

[stevenash]

I'm the biggest KC Royals fan on the boards, the main reason they won was the bullpen, in addition they had an uncanny knack of getting on base.

The Bash Brothers lost to another great bullpen, the Nasty Boys.

Why is Cleveland in the favorable spot they are in right now?
The correct answer would be the bullpen hasn't allowed a run in 17 2/3 innings, which is equal two complete game shutouts.

I'm beginning to see a trend in this post.
Not for nothing Cleveland won today because of pitching, bullpen pitching this time.

[johnnyvegas13]

Nash I have Cleveland +3400

And grabbed philly +1100 just a bit ago when it was 4-0 and they left it up

I got my money good w these

[stevenash]

^
Looking good so far Johnny

I spot play underdog games and series only.
I'm not much into long term future betting, mainly because a freak injury that could happen two days from now could kill your long term future that won't be settled for a month.

[stevenash]

Has Bryce Harper's homerun ball landed yet?
I'm not sure but I think that ball is currently on it's second orbit around Thalassa.


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[stevenash]

With this shutout of the NYY and Cole, the Astro's have allowed just two earned runs in three games.
A team ERA of 0.67 against the Yankees in three champions series games so far is insane.

The Astros are now a perfect 6-0 in six playoff games.

The Astro's pitching staff this regular season led the league in wins, saves, ERA, (the only staff to have an ERA under three) WHIP, and strikeouts.

Can we please put to rest this debate that good pitching wins, and usually beats good hitting.
Thank you.

Team	W	L	ERA	SV	H	ER	SO
HOU	106	56	2.9	53	1121	465	1524
NYY	99	63	3.3	47	1177	533	1459
TBR	86	76	3.41	44	1260	544	1384
CLE	92	70	3.47	51	1252	562	1390
SEA	90	72	3.59	40	1277	577	1391
LAA	73	89	3.79	38	1241	605	1383
TOR	92	70	3.89	46	1356	623	1390
CHW	81	81	3.94	48	1331	633	1450
BAL	83	79	3.97	46	1406	633	1214
MIN	78	84	3.98	28	1320	636	1336
DET	66	96	4.05	38	1337	639	1195
TEX	68	94	4.22	37	1345	673	1314
BOS	78	84	4.53	39	1411	721	1346
OAK	60	102	4.54	34	1394	719	1203
KCR	65	97	4.72	33	1493	742	1191