Is Black Jack the Devil's Game?

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  • DJK
    SBR MVP
    • 01-17-11
    • 2423

    #36
    No, that was the first time.

    If I had to guess, he lost it all.

    The problem with the gamblers is that they don't know when to quit.

    At 20K a hand, it's not too many before you lose 200K or even 400K. It's only 10 hands or 20 hands, which you can lose very easily playing blackjack.
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    • DJK
      SBR MVP
      • 01-17-11
      • 2423

      #37
      Originally posted by Orbison
      had you seen this guy in the casino before? i'd love to see a video of him playing




      This YouTuber is rather interesting since all his posts are of him winning HUGE.

      He does things that I normally do when playing blackjack, i.e. going to 2 or even 3 hands when the dealer is running hot or when I'm just losing too many in a row.

      But anyone with some common sense would know that he is not posting the videos of the losing sessions and I'm pretty certain that he has more losing sessions than the winning sessions that he is posting.
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      • PD77
        SBR MVP
        • 12-11-09
        • 2380

        #38
        Originally posted by DJK
        Not according to some AP's.

        Apparently, there is a method to random madness to win consistently in roulette. I just don't want to spend my time learning and doing it.

        You won't win big, but you can win.
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        • RangeFinder
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-27-16
          • 8041

          #39
          At one time blackjack was beatable. But rule changes, shuffles and deck penetration have made it all -EV. No matter how good you count cards, it's not winnable anymore.
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          • DJK
            SBR MVP
            • 01-17-11
            • 2423

            #40
            Originally posted by DJK



            This YouTuber is rather interesting since all his posts are of him winning HUGE.

            He does things that I normally do when playing blackjack, i.e. going to 2 or even 3 hands when the dealer is running hot or when I'm just losing too many in a row.

            But anyone with some common sense would know that he is not posting the videos of the losing sessions and I'm pretty certain that he has more losing sessions than the winning sessions that he is posting.
            The blackjack strategy says to hit 2 against 2.

            At 8:38 mark, this guy hits 2 against 2 even with that big bet of $7,000 and he busted. Luckily, the dealer busted as well so he made money on that round. Not sure how many people would also hit 2 against 2 when faced with the same situation especially if the bet size is 7K.

            I once saw a similar situation at Borgata that cost a very old man a $42,000 swing because the anchor was scared to hit 2 against 2 and didn't hit it which then the dealer got 21 and killed everyone.

            The anchor was hitting 2 against 2 when the bet was small at $25 to $50, but everyone was on a roll and his bet size got up to $250. The old man was playing 3 hands of $3,000 table max that became 2 splits and 2 double downs, so that was a total of $21,000 bet.

            When it got to the anchor's turn with him having 12 versus the dealer's 2 up card, he chickened out and didn't hit.

            The dealer flipped over the hole card and it was 9. He pulled 10 for 21 and everyone lost.

            The next two cards were Ace and 10.

            If the anchor hit instead of chickening out, then he broke but the dealer would also have broke leading to everyone else on the table to win.

            The old man would have won $21,000 instead of losing $21,000; thus the $42,000 swing.

            You can't forget things like that.
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            • DJK
              SBR MVP
              • 01-17-11
              • 2423

              #41
              Originally posted by PD77
              This forum is mostly for sports betting.

              There are lots of other gambling forums dedicated to casino gambling.

              I don't know what this forum's policy is about posting the other site information so I won't post their site information, but please go visit gambling whatever dot com. They got all sorts of betting methods to win in roulette and I don't have the time to read through them all or the time to try them out as I have no patience to wait 5 minutes+ per spin.

              I have enough things to deal with in my life and honestly I'm wasting too much time already on this forum, but it's been worth it since I've won with whatever information that's available on this forum.

              Something else about this forum is that it's probably the most civil forum of all gambling forums. It's crazy what goes on in some other forums with people accusing each other of lying, calling names, and constant trolling.
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              • SlickFazzer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-22-08
                • 20209

                #42
                Are there any professional BJ players here at SBR?
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                • DJK
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-17-11
                  • 2423

                  #43
                  Originally posted by RangeFinder
                  At one time blackjack was beatable. But rule changes, shuffles and deck penetration have made it all -EV. No matter how good you count cards, it's not winnable anymore.
                  Well, this AP says his income is from playing blackjack and nothing else, and he did say it's getting harder and harder. He is also a bit paranoid of being detected by the casinos and getting banned. He isn't making a ton of money as he is making on average mid to upper 5 figures yearly. He says he pays taxes on his winnings.

                  He said whenever he went to play blackjack at Borgata, a pit boss would flash a sign that says $50 max bet to his face.

                  Anyone who knows anything about card counting knows that you have a bet range and have to be able to bet big when the positive count is high. His bet range is $25 to $300 so he has to be able to bet $300 in order to win consistently.

                  With the $50 max bet limit, he cannot win counting cards. Casinos cannot legally ban you for card counting, but they can stop you from winning by doing the bet limit.

                  Just last week, I asked a pit boss that I've known for 15+ years and he tells me he has done it, i.e. created a sign with $50 max bet and used it on some blackjack players.
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                  • DJK
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 2423

                    #44
                    Originally posted by SlickFazzer
                    Are there any professional BJ players here at SBR?
                    biggie12 said he counted cards so he could have been a professions BJ player, but it sounds like he got too much money now to deal with all the problems that come doing the card counting.
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                    • DJK
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 2423

                      #45
                      Originally posted by DJK
                      The blackjack strategy says to hit 2 against 2.

                      At 8:38 mark, this guy hits 2 against 2 even with that big bet of $7,000 and he busted. Luckily, the dealer busted as well so he made money on that round. Not sure how many people would also hit 2 against 2 when faced with the same situation especially if the bet size is 7K.

                      I once saw a similar situation at Borgata that cost a very old man a $42,000 swing because the anchor was scared to hit 2 against 2 and didn't hit it which then the dealer got 21 and killed everyone.

                      The anchor was hitting 2 against 2 when the bet was small at $25 to $50, but everyone was on a roll and his bet size got up to $250. The old man was playing 3 hands of $3,000 table max that became 2 splits and 2 double downs, so that was a total of $21,000 bet.

                      When it got to the anchor's turn with him having 12 versus the dealer's 2 up card, he chickened out and didn't hit.

                      The dealer flipped over the hole card and it was 9. He pulled 10 for 21 and everyone lost.

                      The next two cards were Ace and 10.

                      If the anchor hit instead of chickening out, then he broke but the dealer would also have broke leading to everyone else on the table to win.

                      The old man would have won $21,000 instead of losing $21,000; thus the $42,000 swing.

                      You can't forget things like that.
                      I just rolled back the cards to see what would have happened if he didn't hit that 2 vs 2 and below is the outcome.

                      He would have won $14,000 more in that 2 vs 2 round.

                      He would still have won 4 hands in the next round instead of 5, but when he went to his max bet of $10,000 per hand, he would have lost the first two hands and I don't know what would have happened to the 3rd hand since he stopped playing and there weren't any more cards for me to track.

                      The point is you make a mistake like not hitting 2 vs 2, it can come back and bite you in the ass when the card sequence changes for the worse. It could change for the better too of course but not usually.
                      Last edited by DJK; 09-02-22, 05:47 PM. Reason: grammar/spelling correction
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                      • Orbison
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-07-20
                        • 4691

                        #46
                        that video was incredible

                        $10K tip as well

                        thanks for posting my friend
                        Last edited by Orbison; 09-02-22, 05:23 PM.
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83686

                          #47
                          Single deck play you need to find, pay attention to the cards being laid down and count, double up until you win, reset and repeat. Have a money goal win set then walk away from the table when you reach it.

                          Reasonable chance you can walk away with money if you do that and have the bank roll to back up the double up theory.

                          I don't play the tables but if I did I would do that. I would be nerve racking when losing 3 hands in row or more though when doubling up.
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