Professional gamblers

[BuddyBear]

Obviously from someone who isnt a professional, knows no professionals - and from someone who has only his limited knowledge and experience to go on.

I "work" sometimes 10 hours a week. Some hours I work 50. But for you to assume that everyone who is a pro works 80 is absurd. Have meetings with who? Who are my contacts?

Please. Go watch some more tv. Absurd.

Well Vanzack....i read that article, i've talked to pros before, i keep up with the industry and this is what I was told. Pros work very hard. They don't wake up in the morning, make thier picks and go **** women and get drunk all day. Sure some weeks are less hectic than others but other weeks can be very overwhelming in terms of time spent. Maybe the 80 hours is too much or overstepping it...big deal. Would you have preferred i said they work 5 hours.

Anyway...There wasn't a whole lot you got right in all your discussions about the gaming industry the past 6 months if I remember correctly so I really wouldn't try to slam me for saying something that you find incorrect. I could go over to covers now and write a 100 pg volume of all the things you said that turned out to be overwhelmingly wrong...so don't consider yourself an authority on everything. I know you specialize in dick measuring contests so I am sure i'll here about how much you bet per game in your next post or some shit like that

[goldengoat]

check out the pics of my 5000 sq ft house, convertible and escalade

If you would like to meet me I throw a huge bash every year on the strip. Its at the mgm signature this year. message me if you would like to come.

will there be a lot of sexy ho's there?

[trustbutverify]

There better be. non-negotiable

[operaman]

yikes what did i start.

It seems every gambling game that has ever been invented has had a loophole that can be exploited at some time.
Its funny when a smart investor finds a way to fairly beat a game, gamblers say its lowlife scum behavior to use it.
In the gambling world a pro is someone who takes home the money. The profession of gambling investing is not about ego.

When I meet people now I can't even tell them what I do, because they will invariably tell me that no one can beat the game (casinos, sb, poker). In essence telling me I am an idiot.

One of the worst things about being a pro is that you get absolutly no respect.

[xxx]

yikes what did i start.

It seems every gambling game that has ever been invented has had a loophole that can be exploited at some time.
Its funny when a smart investor finds a way to fairly beat a game, gamblers say its lowlife scum behavior to use it.
In the gambling world a pro is someone who takes home the money. The profession of gambling investing is not about ego.

When I meet people now I can't even tell them what I do, because they will invariably tell me that no one can beat the game (casinos, sb, poker). In essence telling me I am an idiot.

One of the worst things about being a pro is that you get absolutly no respect.

What do you tell someone that askes you if you ever loss money at gambling right after you told him your up profitwise since you started gambling?

[trustbutverify]

So the sexy ho's- not gonna happen?

[BuddyBear]

So the sexy ho's- not gonna happen?

Dude...you are halfway smart. You should realize that guy is bullshitting you.

[operaman]

What do you tell someone that askes you if you ever loss money at gambling right after you told him your up profitwise since you started gambling?

Don't think anyone has ever asked me that.
If they did ask i would say; I lose money all the time. Nothing like working 8 hours and being down 2k for the day.
although now days i am a big weenie and sacrifice tons of ev for lowered variance.

[Chris2010]

I was just wondering if there were any pros in here. By that I mean handicapping is all you do. If there are any, I was wondering how many hours you avg capping a day? Your fav books? Limits and amount of books you use to stay "under the radar", is capping all you do or do ya mix it up with casino games?, and do you thank your God everyday your good at this and can make a living at it. Thanks guys. Great site.

I'm making a living from betting on sport for almost 2 years now and believe me I'm not the only one, there are a lot of people that make a very good amount of money. You need a lot of free time, some days when there are a very high amount of games available you need from 8-12 hours daily, maybe some people are more "blessed" so they need a little less but I can just say for my self. I use three books for my "job" and they are bwin, bet365 and pinnaclesports. I never played and probably will never play casino games because you only can lose money from my perspective.
I don't make millions but a respective amount of money to have a good life.
I hope I could help!
Good luck to everyone

[noyb]

i don't want to upset anyone, but to be honest i find it pretty hard to believe that any pro gambler would use "only" three sportsbooks. and it's getting even harder to believe when these three include bwin and b365, both famous for cutting limits to a few cents for every professional and even every recreational player that is not totally retarded.

[bigloser]

i don't want to upset anyone, but to be honest i find it pretty hard to believe that any pro gambler would use "only" three sportsbooks. and it's getting even harder to believe when these three include bwin and b365, both famous for cutting limits to a few cents for every professional and even every recreational player that is not totally retarded.

I guess it depends what standard of living you require and where you live. I would imagine it is possible to live in some remote eastern european nation from these books. Cant see it anywhere else though.

[trustbutverify]

i don't want to upset anyone, but to be honest i find it pretty hard to believe that any pro gambler would use "only" three sportsbooks. and it's getting even harder to believe when these three include bwin and b365, both famous for cutting limits to a few cents for every professional and even every recreational player that is not totally retarded.

Well put. International players have great choices available.
Including a coupla pretty good exchanges.

[dodif]

damn ruth chris on flamingo in vegas is the best steak in the world at 1am

Its great being me

[fathead]

There are lots of long term winners in sports and horses on the boards. Most just supplement their other income with this, but there are some that do it full time.

Most bettors lose, longer term, however. It has to be that way, otherwise the books could not pay the long term winners and still make a profit every year.

So most bettors lose long term, the very skilled ones win long term, and the books always win.

[Chris2010]

i don't want to upset anyone, but to be honest i find it pretty hard to believe that any pro gambler would use "only" three sportsbooks. and it's getting even harder to believe when these three include bwin and b365, both famous for cutting limits to a few cents for every professional and even every recreational player that is not totally retarded.

If you think that's "totally" retarded that I have made 564 $ in three days than OK.

[Chris2010]

I guess it depends what standard of living you require and where you live. I would imagine it is possible to live in some remote eastern european nation from these books. Cant see it anywhere else though.

I have won in the last 3 days 436 Euro (564 $) I think with that kind of money you can have a very good life in the US !

[noyb]

well, it's nice you've made yourself some profit in the last three days.. all i'm saying is that if you would have made this kind of profits consistently for the last twenty-four months as you claim, your bwin-account and your b365-account would have been limited to next to nothing twenty-three (twenty at most) months ago.

[Chris2010]

well, it's nice you've made yourself some profit in the last three days.. all i'm saying is that if you would have made this kind of profits consistently for the last twenty-four months as you claim, your bwin-account and your b365-account would have been limited to next to nothing twenty-three (twenty at most) months ago.

If you say so, so follow me for the next "twenty-four months as you claim" and see it for your self. I'm providing people with betting picks and you can choose the bookie you like I don't interfere in that I'm just giving my opinion. Another winner 5 minutes ago !

[bigloser]

I think with that kind of money you can have a very good life in the US !

No you couldn't , about average income.

[Santo]

It's about a $70k salary, after-tax, so effectively 6-figures I'd guess.

[Chris2010]

No you couldn't , about average income.

To have a "about average income" for doing "nothing" isn't "very" good ? Increase your bet unit and you will have a "average²" income and live in Hollywood or lose everything and end on the streets, I really won't respond no more because it tried to help "tink" answering his question and "some visitors" started "attacking" me because I use ""only" three sportsbooks", calling me "totally retarded",...
If I had disturbed somebody with my first statement but I don't know how and why I'm sorry for that no I'm sorry because I tried to help! I hope this statement will be delightful for every visitor of this topic.
Again good luck to everyone
Peace

[Jay Edgar]

Bro,
Tink asked his question 13 months ago!!
He's long gone.

You all seem to have been a little too wrapped up your advanced seminar on striking it rich to notice this.

[trustbutverify]

All I'm saying is that we should have a party with some sexy ho's.

[dodif]

some of the best ho's from spearmint rhino will be there

[curious]

I get a kick out of these posts that assume "pros" have so much more to do than post on message boards.

I have been a "pro" for 5 years. I define that by having no job and making a profit every year, enough to say I make more than 99.5% of the US population (IRS statistic).

My amusement is from idiots who say pros would never post on a message board, as if there is so much else to do that we would never post. Life as a pro overall is pretty boring. Gambling overall is a pretty solitary lifestyle - my neighbors dont gamble, I cant go to a physical gambling club, my family doesnt gamble - so I go to message boards to be with people of similar interests.

Why is this so hard to understand?

I try talking to non-gamblers once in a while about what I do. The way they look at you its like you are talking to them about your latest trip to Saturn.

Yes, I come here for people to talk to.

[LargeMouthBass]

The thing about being a pro at poker or sports betting, general public will think it's impossible since most lose. I agree, I really don't talk about gambling with my friends. They just don't get it... Hence, what better place to discuss about your daily life than here.

[Sawyer]

<b>One of the worst things about being a pro is that you get absolutly no respect.</b>

Hey guys, come on! Reputation, Respect is all about the money, not the job title.

Do you think that society doesn't have any respect for Professional Handicappers? Read on!

Hey, Who cares about damn society? You can be sure that they will be your dog when they see your Ferrari. No matter what’s your occupation/job, everybody will treat you well (even they will admire) if you’re rich. Being a handicapper is like being a rock star. You have a talent and it’s not an ordinary job that everyone can do. Everyone can become a teacher or banker but not everyone can become a handicapper. It requires a true talent, will and discipline. When you got a yatch, 3 sports car, a limo you will get respect no matter what your occopuation is..

[capri5421]

[Nicky Santoro]

there used to be one here but he dont post here anymore..his name was brock landers. this kid was so good that he knew that a game would go over 9.5 in cin and was right.. don't ask me how he knew..

[flyingillini]

This was a great thread at the time.