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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    For the hundredth time this week, that metric is wildly incomplete for another month.
    Says the guy saying death rate would go UP

    Go back to reddit
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
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    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
    Yet you can't refute a single thing I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I doubt it will get to NY's death toll, but won't surprise me in FL moves past NJ by the end of July. Let's revisit then. Of course, if it does, you'll just say the numbers are fake, won't you?

    If New Jersey has zero deaths from here until Aug 1 then Florida would need to average 1,249 deaths per day starting tomorrow through July 31 to equal NJ's death rate per million

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    If New Jersey has zero deaths from here until Aug 1 then Florida would need to average 1,249 deaths per day starting tomorrow through July 31 to equal NJ's death rate per million
    It doesn't matter to him. New Jersey now is doing better. What happened in the past is irrelevant. Show me one post from d2bets critical of Murphy or Cuomo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    If New Jersey has zero deaths from here until Aug 1 then Florida would need to average 1,249 deaths per day starting tomorrow through July 31 to equal NJ's death rate per million
    Well that's not what he said. He just said total deaths, so that's what I was comparing. Florida is almost 11,000 away from NJ. 11,000 deaths in 33 days is 333/day. I think we will see that rate in a couple weeks but it may not average quite that. But the gap will narrow significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    It doesn't matter to him. New Jersey now is doing better. What happened in the past is irrelevant. Show me one post from d2bets critical of Murphy or Cuomo.
    I've said Cuomo waited too long to close down. He got his act together, but he fumbled the first weeks of March.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Well that's not what he said. He just said total deaths, so that's what I was comparing. Florida is almost 11,000 away from NJ. 11,000 deaths in 33 days is 333/day. I think we will see that rate in a couple weeks but it may not average quite that. But the gap will narrow significantly.
    1000 bet points says Florida doesn't come within 5000 total deaths of NJ's total at the end of the Day July 31st

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    It doesn't matter to him. New Jersey now is doing better. What happened in the past is irrelevant. Show me one post from d2bets critical of Murphy or Cuomo.

    a case could be made that they aren't even doing better now in terms of deaths.

    NJ 7 rolling avg of deaths is at 36, even after the weekend lull gives them just 5 today

    FL 7 day rolling avg is 39

    so taking population into account. a person was almost 2.5 times as likely to die of covid in NJ over the past week then they were in Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    1000 bet points says Florida doesn't come within 5000 total deaths of NJ's total at the end of the Day July 31st
    Unless we get vaccine by fall, NJ and NY will get hammered in the colder months. Would stake anything on it. Politicians not going to save you. Wear a mask, wash ur hands, distance, don't be a Booya type loser desperate to relive his frat days. That's all you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    a case could be made that they aren't even doing better now in terms of deaths.

    NJ 7 rolling avg of deaths is at 36, even after the weekend lull gives them just 5 today

    FL 7 day rolling avg is 39

    so taking population into account. a person was almost 2.5 times as likely to die of covid in NJ over the past week then they were in Florida
    That's because 3-4 weeks ago Florida had very very few cases - they were averaging less than 1,000/day cases. Now it's 8x times that. So in another 3-4 weeks that 40/day will be 320/day, at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    1000 bet points says Florida doesn't come within 5000 total deaths of NJ's total at the end of the Day July 31st
    Make it 200 betpoints. What source will we use for data?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Make it 200 betpoints. What source will we use for data?
    I will give archie the points. You can't admit the virus is killing as much. It's sad man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Make it 200 betpoints. What source will we use for data?


    you really ok rooting for more deaths somewhere?

    but worldometer if you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    you really ok rooting for more deaths somewhere?

    but worldometer if you are
    Look at the topic of the thread brother. My point has been proven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    you really ok rooting for more deaths somewhere?

    but worldometer if you are
    It's a prediction, a hedge. I don't need to root. You got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    That's because 3-4 weeks ago Florida had very very few cases - they were averaging less than 1,000/day cases. Now it's 8x times that. So in another 3-4 weeks that 40/day will be 320/day, at least
    three major flaws.

    in March/april in NYC if you took 5-10k of positive tests, you were getting positive results from a much sicker, desperate population that was willing to jump through all the hoops AND check enough boxes that medical professionals would actually concede to waste a precious swab on you, so unless you are showing major symptoms AND were very old AND/Or you had very serious underlying conditions they told you to stay home for 14 days


    The early positive results came with a viral load and yield that was on average well over 10x the what we are seeing today in most areas. The patients had been exposed to much more virulent and larger amounts of droplets.

    The first 6 weeks of dealing with the virus was a steep learning curve for medical professionals from all over the world. The positive courses, treatments, and medications have been discovered in real time trials on thousand's of hospitals around the world. That info gets shared very quickly and thus death rates have gone down almost everywhere.


    So you take 5-10k of positive cases in Fl now over the course of 1-2 days and those same patients coming from a much much bigger healthier pool, have a significantly better prognosis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    three major flaws.

    in March/april in NYC if you took 5-10k of positive tests, you were getting positive results from a much sicker, desperate population that was willing to jump through all the hoops AND check enough boxes that medical professionals would actually concede to waste a precious swab on you, so unless you are showing major symptoms AND were very old AND/Or you had very serious underlying conditions they told you to stay home for 14 days


    The early positive results came with a viral load and yield that was on average well over 10x the what we are seeing today in most areas. The patients had been exposed to much more virulent and larger amounts of droplets.

    The first 6 weeks of dealing with the virus was a steep learning curve for medical professionals from all over the world. The positive courses, treatments, and medications have been discovered in real time trials on thousand's of hospitals around the world. That info gets shared very quickly and thus death rates have gone down almost everywhere.


    So you take 5-10k of positive cases in Fl now over the course of 1-2 days and those same patients coming from a much much bigger healthier pool, have a significantly better prognosis
    Those are fair points. Then again, NY went into shutdown mode late March which did knock it down. FL seems not to be doing that. But I don't think FL will get to NY level. The biggest reason being that NYC living is much more dense.
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    No more doctor referrals are needed for testing in states such as Florida, Texas and Arizona. It's free and people wait in line for hours to get tested. Of course cases are going way up. People under 35 now account for 1/2 the cases. They aren't going to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    For the millionth time, deaths relate to cases from 3-5 weeks ago. Look at the infection chart, it only started turning up less than 3 weeks ago. So let's watch the right side of the death chart over the next 3-4 weeks.

    Notice how low the deaths were in late March when the cases were spiking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Truly sad State of affairs. As a Canadian I just want to let you guys in the good old states most of the modernized world has moved on from the pandemic in the sense that we were careful and let it pass through and were vigilant. While you guys try to figure out if you need a mask there were over 500 soccer games in Europe this week. You guys have a bunch of whiny losers who can't coexist. My country is in a tough spot because we have a land border with the supposed greatest nation on Earth who did the worst job handling the pandemic.
    Whats the correlation between these comments and the title of your thread???

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    Quote Originally Posted by wikkidinsane View Post
    This is how you all look with a gun


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    bit of a racist statement

    kinda like saying every black look alike



    why cant we all be equally different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Whats the correlation between these comments and the title of your thread???
    None. The title is to draw people in
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    All this talk of a miracle vaccine is ludicrous. Remember, more people died of the the Bird Flu vaccine than of Bird Flu itself. Toss in the fact that Big Drug would want a couple of thousand bucks or more for the vaccine. No thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace7550 View Post
    how the hell did you quote that without posting anything

    i am impressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxell View Post
    All this talk of a miracle vaccine is ludicrous. Remember, more people died of the the Bird Flu vaccine than of Bird Flu itself. Toss in the fact that Big Drug would want a couple of thousand bucks or more for the vaccine. No thank you.
    The government would pay for the vaccine, it costs less to vaccinate than it does to treat sick people and keep the economy closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    bit of a racist statement

    kinda like saying every black look alike



    why cant we all be equally different?
    not referrinf to any race in particular rudy

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