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  • Unrivaled
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-24-11
    • 6685

    #1
    Something here just doesn't add up...
    Hospitals are delaying cancer treatment and cardiac surgery because they are elective to free up space for the 0.0001% of the population who has coronavirus. Keep in mind the average age of these people with Covid and end up in hospital is 85. The few people who are younger are on average about 400lbs and have lung/diabetes/heart problems.

    I know a nurse and it's basically a vacation for them right now. Noone allowed to get help and all surgeries on hold except for the few who have covid.

    Does this make any sense to anyone? I think there should be a criminal investigation... people are dying because of these moron "experts".

    This makes no sense at all!

    *Keep in mind these are Canadian numbers and we don't have large death numbers like the states because our population is healthier and has access to free health care.
  • thespeculator
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-08
    • 2999

    #2
    The health minister in Ontario admitted 35 people have died because they couldn't get heart surgery. I wonder how many people with cancer had the disease spread in the last 6 weeks. It doesn't make any sense!!!!
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388189

      #3
      terrible

      we need to get back to business
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      • ronald
        SBR MVP
        • 10-31-05
        • 4918

        #4
        Originally posted by Unrivaled
        Hospitals are delaying cancer treatment and cardiac surgery because they are elective to free up space for the 0.0001% of the population who has coronavirus. Keep in mind the average age of these people with Covid and end up in hospital is 85. The few people who are younger are on average about 400lbs and have lung/diabetes/heart problems.

        I know a nurse and it's basically a vacation for them right now. Noone allowed to get help and all surgeries on hold except for the few who have covid.

        Does this make any sense to anyone? I think there should be a criminal investigation... people are dying because of these moron "experts".

        This makes no sense at all!

        *Keep in mind these are Canadian numbers and we don't have large death numbers like the states because our population is healthier and has access to free health care.
        Just so you understand, the majority of states have fewer deaths per capita from the virus than Canada does as a whole.
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        • Booya711
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-20-11
          • 27329

          #5
          I work in hospitals all over the US.....it seriously is a dog and pony show. This corona is not near a crisis as they want you to believe.
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          • Dogball
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-15-10
            • 625

            #6
            Originally posted by Unrivaled
            Hospitals are delaying cancer treatment and cardiac surgery because they are elective to free up space for the 0.0001% of the population who has coronavirus. Keep in mind the average age of these people with Covid and end up in hospital is 85. The few people who are younger are on average about 400lbs and have lung/diabetes/heart problems.

            I know a nurse and it's basically a vacation for them right now. Noone allowed to get help and all surgeries on hold except for the few who have covid.

            Does this make any sense to anyone? I think there should be a criminal investigation... people are dying because of these moron "experts".

            This makes no sense at all!

            *Keep in mind these are Canadian numbers and we don't have large death numbers like the states because our population is healthier and has access to free health care.
            This is a great post , I’m one of the people who need surgery here in NYC. I am so frustrated.
            It’s only hernia surgery but it’s concerning since I had surgery in January that didn’t work .
            i was scheduled for March got cancelled. Spoke to dr yesterday says June July but nothing definite.
            was thinking the same, what if this was cancer or heart surgery. These people can’t get treatment. Pathetic.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388189

              #7
              Who do you blame then?

              Dems or Reps??
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              • lakerboy
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-02-09
                • 94368

                #8
                Originally posted by ronald
                Just so you understand, the majority of states have fewer deaths per capita from the virus than Canada does as a whole.
                Well obviously there are 50 states several that have hardly any population. Should we compare Saskatchewan to Montana, Alberta to north Dakota?

                Population centres like Toronto vs Detroit would be a better comparison. ( Detroit isn't in good shape)

                Also 79% of the deaths in Canada have been in old age homes. Let's take those out vs the USA who has 20% of deaths in old age homes (which they aren't even counting).
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                • Emily_Haines
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-09
                  • 15917

                  #9
                  two million chickens destroyed, cattle and pigs euthanized, milk poured out of tankers and billions of eggs thrown out

                  yet we have food lines miles long and are under a pandemic with food shortages

                  what a fukked up country
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                  • AribaAriba
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-03-09
                    • 2919

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Booya711
                    I work in hospitals all over the US.....it seriously is a dog and pony show. This corona is not near a crisis as they want you to believe.
                    It means the shelter and place is working thats why it was put in place in the first ace. If no shelter in place then the hospital would be overwhelmed. If it comes.to that then the lives lost wont be able to reset, just look at europe, usa dodge a bullet by reacting on what happened in europe.
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                    • Booya711
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-20-11
                      • 27329

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AribaAriba
                      It means the shelter and place is working thats why it was put in place in the first ace. If no shelter in place then the hospital would be overwhelmed. If it comes.to that then the lives lost wont be able to reset, just look at europe, usa dodge a bullet by reacting on what happened in europe.
                      Read dogball’s post as it’s spot on with the problem. Hospitals are turning away surgeries and other procedures necessary all because they “might” get a coronavirus patient. Hospitals are at all time low for census numbers because they are only caring for coronavirus patients (or lack there of). It’s sad and pathetic
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                      • unde0087
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-27-08
                        • 28874

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AribaAriba
                        It means the shelter and place is working thats why it was put in place in the first ace. If no shelter in place then the hospital would be overwhelmed. If it comes.to that then the lives lost wont be able to reset, just look at europe, usa dodge a bullet by reacting on what happened in europe.
                        Bro, countries that don't have shelter in place are at the same rate as we are. Wake up. This is all bullshit. The places that aren't doing this stupid shit are better off than we are because they won't have to deal with a second wave because their citizens were out building up immunity to the virus while people here are just weakening themselves thinking they are helping themselves. The smart ones didn't lock themselves down for months.

                        Do you lock yourself down every winter because of influenza? Get a clue
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                        • Booya711
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-20-11
                          • 27329

                          #13
                          Originally posted by unde0087
                          Bro, countries that don't have shelter in place are at the same rate as we are. Wake up. This is all bullshit. The places that aren't doing this stupid shit are better off than we are because they won't have to deal with a second wave because their citizens were out building up immunity to the virus while people here are just weakening themselves thinking they are helping themselves. The smart ones didn't lock themselves down for months.

                          Do you lock yourself down every winter because of influenza? Get a clue
                          The government is your master...you must OBEY unde!
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                          • ronald
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-31-05
                            • 4918

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AribaAriba
                            It means the shelter and place is working thats why it was put in place in the first ace. If no shelter in place then the hospital would be overwhelmed. If it comes.to that then the lives lost wont be able to reset, just look at europe, usa dodge a bullet by reacting on what happened in europe.
                            Sadly this will be the narrative from the government (including the president) when things open back up again. The honest narrative from the government should be "Oops. Sorry folks. We really fukked this one up."
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                            • USCPHILLYGUY
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-15-12
                              • 21744

                              #15
                              Had to do a echocardiogram as a follow up to my procedure in Feb. Go to a very prominent heart and lung center (Deborah). When I tell you there was no one there I’m not lying. Doctor told me the exact same thing as OP. Just disgusting
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                              • Checkerboard
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-15-06
                                • 7798

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                Hospitals are delaying cancer treatment and cardiac surgery because they are elective to free up space for the 0.0001% of the population who has coronavirus. Keep in mind the average age of these people with Covid and end up in hospital is 85. The few people who are younger are on average about 400lbs and have lung/diabetes/heart problems.

                                I know a nurse and it's basically a vacation for them right now. Noone allowed to get help and all surgeries on hold except for the few who have covid.

                                Does this make any sense to anyone? I think there should be a criminal investigation... people are dying because of these moron "experts".

                                This makes no sense at all!

                                *Keep in mind these are Canadian numbers and we don't have large death numbers like the states because our population is healthier and has access to free health care.

                                Powerfully positioned people playing key influential expert roles here, Neil Ferguson (U.K. Imperial College), Fauci.

                                Lock down = Economy down = populism down / socialism, CO2 agenda, vaccine passport/tracking, all gain.

                                Media censorship / distortion evident.
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Setting the stage for a world central governing body...

                                  also , Single World's Currency
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                                  • wakefield23
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-08-13
                                    • 179

                                    #18


                                    In five years, we will really start to wonder what happened to America. In 10 years, our kids won't know the same America of our youth. And in 25 years, we won't recognize America at all.The Constitution will be a relic, tossed on the same heap of...
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                                    • Dogball
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 04-15-10
                                      • 625

                                      #19
                                      I wrote my DR this morning to compel action and here is his response

                                      Steven, our institution and itd leadership are spending countless hours trying to figure out the way to provide care for all patients.


                                      At this very moment, almost all of our operating rooms have been converted to Intensive Care units and are filled with COVID patients on ventilators. In addition, there is a risk of disease transmission to and from patients during surgeries in a few rooms that are open.


                                      As Jennifer mentioned before, we are in the process of figuring out the most efficient and safe way to reschedule all patients. In my practice alone, we have nearly 70 patients who have been postponed during this pandemic.


                                      Hope this clarifies the situation we are in. Had you seen the devastation this disease brought onto us firsthand, it probably would've even easier to understand our utmost concerns in this matter.

                                      Believe me, we are all eager to resume our normal lives. But we will do it when it's safe for everyone involved.
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                                      • ronald
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-31-05
                                        • 4918

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Dogball
                                        I wrote my DR this morning to compel action and here is his response

                                        Steven, our institution and itd leadership are spending countless hours trying to figure out the way to provide care for all patients.


                                        At this very moment, almost all of our operating rooms have been converted to Intensive Care units and are filled with COVID patients on ventilators. In addition, there is a risk of disease transmission to and from patients during surgeries in a few rooms that are open.


                                        As Jennifer mentioned before, we are in the process of figuring out the most efficient and safe way to reschedule all patients. In my practice alone, we have nearly 70 patients who have been postponed during this pandemic.


                                        Hope this clarifies the situation we are in. Had you seen the devastation this disease brought onto us firsthand, it probably would've even easier to understand our utmost concerns in this matter.

                                        Believe me, we are all eager to resume our normal lives. But we will do it when it's safe for everyone involved.
                                        I guess living in an overpriced shithole blue city in a shithole blue state has its drawbacks.
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                                        • nerdyguy
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 04-04-20
                                          • 89

                                          #21
                                          Yes, I don't like where this is going. Mortality is too low for such actions and economy of the most countries in the world won't be able to recover quickly...I think this quarantine is bad way of dealing with corona...
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                                          • Unrivaled
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-24-11
                                            • 6685

                                            #22
                                            In Alberta, we have more hospitals than total patients in hospital because of Covid.

                                            The models were so inaccurate assuming we would have over a thousand deaths by now and we have 80 total.
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                                            • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-10-15
                                              • 3955

                                              #23
                                              hospitals by me are empty. they're killing time eating all the free food people are bringing them
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                                              • Sam Odom
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-30-05
                                                • 58063

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by SBR_Guest_Pro


                                                hospitals by me are empty. they're killing time eating all the free food people are bringing them

                                                Wow... he knows what he says
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388189

                                                  #25
                                                  God Bess all
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                                                  • GUMMO77
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                    • 9294

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                                    Hospitals are delaying cancer treatment and cardiac surgery because they are elective to free up space for the 0.0001% of the population who has coronavirus. Keep in mind the average age of these people with Covid and end up in hospital is 85. The few people who are younger are on average about 400lbs and have lung/diabetes/heart problems.

                                                    .
                                                    I don't think you properly looked up those stats
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83691

                                                      #27
                                                      Hospitals are empty, more respirators that are collecting dust.. Most are immune to Corona and hit already and don't even know it especially in the sunshine States..

                                                      BEACHES SHOULD BE OPEN. That's the last place you will ever get Corona under the hot bright sun...
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                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                        • 58063

                                                        #28
                                                        Pelosi floats guaranteed minimum income balloon because of CV
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                                                        • lonegambler23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-22-16
                                                          • 9761

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Hospitals are empty, more respirators that are collecting dust.. Most are immune to Corona and hit already and don't even know it especially in the sunshine States..

                                                          BEACHES SHOULD BE OPEN. That's the last place you will ever get Corona under the hot bright sun...
                                                          fade the coo coo californians
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            I don’t even follow it anymore I’m trying to follow policy online
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                                                            • Unrivaled
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-24-11
                                                              • 6685

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by GUMMO77
                                                              I don't think you properly looked up those stats
                                                              Actually in Alberta the number of people in hospital because of Corona is 0.000005%. So I overestimated.

                                                              But yet we are weeks and weeks away from opening up. If Trudeau had it his way we would never open up again.
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                                                              • ronald
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-31-05
                                                                • 4918

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                                                Actually in Alberta the number of people in hospital because of Corona is 0.000005%. So I overestimated.

                                                                But yet we are weeks and weeks away from opening up. If Trudeau had it his way we would never open up again.
                                                                Where in Alberta are you?

                                                                Spent many years in EAST COULEE.
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