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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45367

    #1
    NY Times: From the Mall to the Docks, Recovery Signs
    PORTLAND, Ore. — The docks are humming again at this sprawling Pacific port, with clouds of golden dust billowing off the piles of grain spilling into the bellies of giant tankers.
    Shoppers at a Gap store in Manhattan. Retail sales increased by 9.1 percent in March at established stores compared with a year earlier, according to Thomson Reuters.

    “Things are looking up,” said Dan Broadie, a longshoreman. No longer killing time at the union hall while waiting for work, instead he is guiding a mechanized spout pouring 44,000 tons of wheat into the Arion SB, bound for the Philippines.
    At malls from New Jersey to California, shoppers are snapping up electronics and furniture, as fears of joblessness yield to exuberance over rising stock prices. Tractor trailers and railroad cars haul swelling quantities of goods through transportation corridors, generating paychecks for truckers and repair crews.
    On the factory floor, production is expanding, a point underscored by government data released Friday showing a hefty increase in March for orders of long-lasting manufactured items. In apartment towers and on cul-de-sacs, sales of new homes surged in March, climbing by 27 percent, amplifying hopes that a wrenching real estate disaster may finally be releasing its grip on the national economy.
    After the worst downturn since the Great Depression, signs of recovery are mounting — albeit tinged with ambiguity. Despite worries that American consumers might hunker down for years — spooked by debt, lost savings and unemployment — thriftiness has given way to the outlines of a new shopping spree: households are replacing cars, upgrading home furnishings and amassing gadgets.
    Many economists estimate that consumer spending — which makes up some 70 percent of American economic activity — swelled by 4 percent during the first three months of the year, more than the double the pace once anticipated. Some have nudged upward their estimates for economic growth to more than 3 percent this year.
    “Consumers are showing extraordinary resilience,” said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at the Economic Outlook Group. “There’s a lot of pent-up demand out there that is now being unleashed. The whole supply chain system is now being revitalized.”
    While few dispute signs of recovery across much of the economy, significant debate remains on how robust and sustained it will be. The lingering effects of the financial crisis have some economists envisioning a long stretch of sluggish growth.
    But recent months have delivered a stream of news bolstering the notion of a more vigorous recovery. Technology companies have racked up substantial sales. After a decade of painful decline, manufacturing is tentatively adding jobs. Retail sales increased by 9.1 percent in March at established stores compared with a year earlier, according to Thomson Reuters, marking the seventh consecutive month of growth. Exports swelled in the first two months of the year by nearly 15 percent compared with a year earlier, according to the Commerce Department.
    Still, much of the improvement appears the result of the nearly $800 billion government stimulus program. As that package is largely exhausted late this year, further expansion may hinge on whether consumers keep spending. That probably depends on the job market, which remains weak.
    “The recovery is under way, and it’s better than expected, but it hasn’t become self-sustaining because the job market hasn’t developed yet,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com. “I don’t think we’re there yet.”
    In a sign of the anxieties still gnawing at households, the University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index this month plunged to a preliminary level of 69.5 compared with 73.6 in March.
    Still, even that number represented a substantial gain over the record low of 55.3 reached in November 2008. And many economists dismiss such surveys as indicative of what people think, as opposed to what they do.
    What they are doing increasingly is shopping.
    “I’m certainly interested in spending now that the stock market seems so relaxed,” said Dan Schrenk, an information technology consultant, as he stood outside a Best Buy store in the Portland suburb of Beaverton.
    Last year, Mr. Schrenk’s income declined as local companies put off servicing computer systems. He and his wife cut back on dinners out and purchases.
    But in recent weeks, Mr. Schrenk’s stock portfolio has expanded. He has picked up five new clients.
    “I’m feeling very optimistic,” he said. “People are just far more interested in spending money.”
    So, there he was, shopping for an iPad.
    On the other side of the country, at the Garden State Plaza mall in Paramus, N.J., Marie Bauer, who sells clothing for a living, was feeling similarly emboldened.
    “I’m working more now,” she said. “I bought myself a watch.”

    As John D. Morris, a retail analyst with BMO Capital Markets, wandered past stores like Gap and J. Crew on his weekly “mall check,” he spotted large numbers of women 25 to 45 years of age — prime earning years.
    “The mainstay of the mall is back,” he said. “That’s your signal that we’re in a more meaningful recovery with staying power.”
    A year ago, Columbia Sportswear, the Portland-based apparel brand, was turning away some retail customers whose finances seemed worrisome. Now, Columbia has one of its largest order backlogs.
    “People saw that the world didn’t come to an end,” said Timothy P. Boyle, Columbia’s president and chief executive. “Maybe they just said, ‘Hey, I can at least spend a little bit of money.’ ”
    Spending power has been enhanced by a monumental reduction in household debt, which has shrunk by about $600 billion since the fall of 2008, according to Equifax credit data analyzed by Economy.com. That amounts to about $6,300 a household.
    “Household deleveraging is clearing the decks for better consumer spending going forward,” said Mr. Zandi. Still, some economists note that many consumers are reaching into savings to finance spending, suggesting consumption could run out of fuel.
    “Look at employment and income,” said Brian Bethune, chief United States financial economist at the economic analysis firm, IHS Global Insight. “It’s glacial. If we don’t get strong growth in employment and income, we’re really just building this up as a house of cards.”
    The American savings rate climbed during the recession but has recently fallen. Among households in the top fifth of American incomes — those earning $98,000 a year and up — the savings rate dropped to 2 percent of income in the first half of 2007 and then spiked above 14 percent by the middle of 2008, according to an analysis of Federal Reserve data by Economy.com. By the end of last year, the savings rate of this group had slipped back to 3.5 percent.
    Since the end of World War II, the first year after a recession tends to feature growth at roughly twice the pace of the decline during the downturn, implying a current pace exceeding 7 percent. Yet even optimistic economists assume the economy is growing at perhaps half that rate.
    “I keep calling it a half-speed recovery, not the full-speed-ahead recovery that we typically get after deep, prolonged recessions,” said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group in Pittsburgh.
    But at a Porsche dealership in downtown Los Angeles, the sales manager, Victor Ghassemi, has seen sales rise by about 5 percent in recent weeks, a trend he attributes to rising stock portfolios.
    “People get tired of holding on to their money, or just sitting at home and not doing anything,” he said. “People love to shop. And you take that privilege away from somebody, it lasts about a year. Eventually, people want to come back. They want to buy new merchandise, a new product, to make them feel really good about themselves.”
    The key question is whether this burst of consumption will prompt businesses to hire, adding paychecks needed to amplify economic growth and replace the eight million net jobs lost in the course of the recession.
    Optimists suggest this is already unfolding, pointing to the addition of 162,000 net jobs in March, the biggest surge of hiring in over two years. In this view, job growth amounts to a corrective after excessive layoffs during the worst of the crisis.
    “You didn’t fire people because you had a judicious plan about how to run your company,” said Robert Barbera, chief economist at the research and trading firm ITG. “You fired pell-mell, because you were afraid you were going to lose access to credit.”
    Now, he argues, companies are guided by a new anxiety that demands hiring: fear of missing out on the profits of fresh growth.
    Still to come, he added, is a wave of spending from American businesses.
    “They are awash in cash,” Mr. Barbera said. “They’re in a position to step up spending across the board.”
    Technology companies are already benefiting from strong consumer growth. Sales of PCs rose more than 5 percent last year, trumping analysts’ predictions of double-digit declines.
    This month, Intel, the world’s largest chip maker, reported its highest first-quarter revenue in history. Google added about 800 jobs over the first three months of this year, and Amazon has added 1,800. Intel plans to hire 1,000 to 2,000 employees this year.
    Silicon Valley is already cashing in on the return of Wall Street, as trading houses fold profits into new high-speed computer systems aimed at securing a competitive edge.
    Global trade holds promise. At the Port of Portland — a major shipping point for commodities harvested as far east as the Great Plains — the tonnage of goods swelled by 42 percent during the first three months of the year compared with a year earlier. Minerals like soda ash — an important industrial ingredient to make glass and detergent — increased by 93 percent.
    Activity here and at ports along the Pacific coast is generating business through related industries. Rail freight traffic was up nearly 8 percent in March from a year earlier, according to the Association of American Railroads. That has bolstered revenue for Greenbrier, a Portland-based maker of rail cars that was hard hit during the recession.
    At Diversified Services Inc., a truck repair business in Mira Loma, Calif., general manager Dave Pilarcik is contemplating hiring, as customers put their fleets back on the road.
    “For the first time in a long time,” he said, “I’ve seen a little bit more movement.”
  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45367

    #2
    JJ you said something about shorting the market...Recovery WELL under way headed towards boom again!
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40184

      #3
      BROCK............it is just another smoke screen.


      People are overreacting AND over spending because the stock market has risen a measly 1500 pts and housing prices have stablized their downward spiral.

      Make no mistake about it, this country is in bad shape.

      I love JJgolds call on shorting the DOW at the 11,300 benchmark................
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45367

        #4
        Fish, my investments/401k have NEVER been better, since March 09 we have seen on of the best bull rallies EVER
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        • BatemanPatrickl
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-21-07
          • 18772

          #5
          Originally posted by Brock Landers
          Fish, my investments/401k have NEVER been better, since March 09 we have seen on of the best bull rallies EVER
          How much of your 401K and/or investments were wiped out before that?
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          • Brock Landers
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 06-30-08
            • 45367

            #6
            alnost none, was in 75% guaranteed bond fund until august 09 when i got 100% back in stocks, its been sick, made 5 dimes in the last month by doing nothing
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            • BatemanPatrickl
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-21-07
              • 18772

              #7
              So you had the foresight to correctly call the market (something which professionals can't even do) yet you manage to lose $150K+ offshore and have to borrow money from your father.

              Now I've seen it all. Let me know when I should sell Gordon Gecko
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45367

                #8
                good luck is what its called guy, and bottom line, never done this good with stocks before ever
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63182

                  #9
                  not sure if i'm buying it yet
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                  • tltaylor89
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-19-09
                    • 19610

                    #10
                    Sell pressure on the floor today really do like the price action today. Large call buying in Mcaffee today.
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                    • chaseman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-06-09
                      • 1195

                      #11
                      The dollar is going to fail.
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                      • iifold
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-25-10
                        • 11111

                        #12
                        yeah sure, whatever the NY Times says you really are blind.
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                        • Brock Landers
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 06-30-08
                          • 45367

                          #13
                          Originally posted by iifold
                          yeah sure, whatever the NY Times says you really are blind.
                          OTW, you really need to get a new gig
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                          • Brock Landers
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 06-30-08
                            • 45367

                            #14
                            Just checked...since March 23rd, i've made 5886 in my 401K by doing nothing. THAT is not bad. All vested too.
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                            • Cougar Bait
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-04-07
                              • 18282

                              #15
                              Remember unemployment numbers are always the most important thing here Brock.

                              My town: 19%
                              Next closest town: 22%

                              Even though I hate CNN (and any other cable news network) they ran this today:

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                              • Brock Landers
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 06-30-08
                                • 45367

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                                Remember unemployment numbers are always the most important thing here Brock. My town: 19% Next closest town: 22% Even though I hate CNN (and any other cable news network) they ran this today: http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/26/news...y/NABE_survey/
                                your town is ALWAYS high Cougar..
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                                • tblues2005
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-30-06
                                  • 9235

                                  #17
                                  good job Brock!
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                                  • ericthegangster
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 1764

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                    Fish, my investments/401k have NEVER been better, since March 09 we have seen on of the best bull rallies EVER
                                    the hut gives you 401k benefits!?
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                                    • Cougar Bait
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-04-07
                                      • 18282

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                      your town is ALWAYS high Cougar..
                                      High on PCP? Maybe.

                                      High unemployment? Uh, no.

                                      It was single digits not long ago brother.
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                                      • Brock Landers
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 06-30-08
                                        • 45367

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                                        High on PCP? Maybe. High unemployment? Uh, no. It was single digits not long ago brother.
                                        usually leads the state...been that way historically.
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                                        • Brock Landers
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 06-30-08
                                          • 45367

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ericthegangster
                                          the hut gives you 401k benefits!?
                                          yeah, 100K worth. you fukking moron
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                                          • Cougar Bait
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-04-07
                                            • 18282

                                            #22
                                            There were 765,000 unemployed Illinois residents in March.

                                            Ouch. Nice recovery.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388208

                                              #23
                                              We are in a depression

                                              Massive layoffs
                                              Businesses closing at a record rate
                                              Foreclosures at an all time high

                                              Its all BS to try and make Obama look good

                                              We are in serious trouble
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                                              • Brock Landers
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 06-30-08
                                                • 45367

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                We are in a depression Massive layoffs Businesses closing at a record rate Foreclosures at an all time high Its all BS to try and make Obama look good We are in serious trouble
                                                no we aren't LOL

                                                JJ, stop watching the media, total nonsense. Shit WAS bad last year...since March of 09 HUGE improvements everywhere, the recession went from dec 07 till March 09...when the book is written on it
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                                                • MilfDriller
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-23-08
                                                  • 10186

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  We are in a depression

                                                  Massive layoffs
                                                  Businesses closing at a record rate
                                                  Foreclosures at an all time high

                                                  Its all BS to try and make Obama look good

                                                  We are in serious trouble

                                                  This is prolly the first time I'm agreeing w/ you, JJ.

                                                  And Brock, I don't know what planet you're on. Anyways, the media has to say shit looks good ... otherwise it would be racist against our Maximum Leader Gangbanger
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                                                  • Brock Landers
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 06-30-08
                                                    • 45367

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MilfDriller
                                                    This is prolly the first time I'm agreeing w/ you, JJ. And Brock, I don't know what planet you're on. Anyways, the media has to say shit looks good ... otherwise it would be racist against our Maximum Leader Gangbanger
                                                    with the exception of a salary freeze last summer, this "recession" has had ZERO impact on me, and as i stated, my investments have NEVER been better. Alot goes on how well you were positioned before this BS started happening, and from my point of view, its long over.
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                                                    • Fishhead
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                      • 40184

                                                      #27
                                                      The DOW may lose over 300 pts today

                                                      This is no time to have money in this market.
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                                                      • HenPrivilege
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-10-09
                                                        • 1720

                                                        #28
                                                        Only an Obamacrat would get excited over the DJ at 11,000. If you know anything about economics, it's true value is well under 10,000. Make believe printed money can only prop this BS up for so long.

                                                        Shit will be fukked up for atleast another 2 years.

                                                        Only thing that matters in our country is jobs.

                                                        A double dip recession is coming. Wouldn't be surprised if it triple dips.
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                                                        • whatsgood5
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 10-13-09
                                                          • 15359

                                                          #29
                                                          Good read
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388208

                                                            #30
                                                            Looks like I am right again, I would never disagree with my opinions as they are very accurate and well supported. We are in the worst economy in the last 75 years or so.
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                                                            • Naz18
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-10-09
                                                              • 4277

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MilfDriller
                                                              This is prolly the first time I'm agreeing w/ you, JJ. And Brock, I don't know what planet you're on. Anyways, the media has to say shit looks good ... otherwise it would be racist against our Maximum Leader Gangbanger
                                                              Looks like the 13 year old is wrong again...not surprised..
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40184

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Looks like I am right again, I would never disagree with my opinions as they are very accurate and well supported. We are in the worst economy in the last 75 years or so.

                                                                GREAT CALL..............we may go under 11,000 TODAY!!

                                                                Dow is currently down 200 pts at 11,004 with a few minutes remaining in the session.
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                                                                • Fishhead
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                                  • 40184

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                  GREAT CALL..............we may go under 11,000 TODAY!!

                                                                  Dow is currently down 200 pts at 11,004 with a few minutes remaining in the session.



                                                                  Great call out of the box CORBIN!!

                                                                  The DOW finishes the day down 213.72 and closes at 10,991


                                                                  You never cease to amaze me CORBIN!
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                                                                  • Brock Landers
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 06-30-08
                                                                    • 45367

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Glad i've been in for the past 9 months, made a fortune.

                                                                    Today was a blip not even associated with the US Economy
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