[thomorino]

36-30

Penn State fell apart last year after losses, they should be ready here and penix is out.

[jtoler]

where did u get them at that number

[Eddy Munny]

where did u get them at that number

It's the first leg of his 29 point sweetheart teaser.

[Kermit]

Penn State +14.5 sounds like an otters play.

[jjgold]

it is -14 we all know that

Typo

[2daBank]

I lean hoosers but you got a great line!! Lol.

I dunno. Same feel as Illini/sparty imo, another line that makes no damn sense and pretty much everyone likes the dog. Those scare me. You def seem to be on a island with psu which never a bad thing.

[jjgold]

Indy small lean

[Eddy Munny]

it is -14 we all know that

Typo

[thomorino]

Penn State -14.5

[2daBank]

I don’t think there a huge drop off in QBs for Hoosiers, Pennex more talented but think the other kid has proven capable of moving the offense.

I just dunno what you see to lay 14 and the hook here? I’ll admit Hoosiers schedule gives me a little pause and they very popular but I never bought into psu being a playoff contender. Surely don’t see them as this many points better than Hoosiers and they in a poor spot they haven’t ever played well in under franklin. Plus I think Hoosiers offense matches up pretty well. All that the popular opinion tho so would like to hear more bout how you see this going. Thanks

[thomorino]

I don’t think there a huge drop off in QBs for Hoosiers, Pennex more talented but think the other kid has proven capable of moving the offense.

I just dunno what you see to lay 14 and the hook here? I’ll admit Hoosiers schedule gives me a little pause and they very popular but I never bought into psu being a playoff contender. Surely don’t see them as this many points better than Hoosiers and they in a poor spot they haven’t ever played well in under franklin. Plus I think Hoosiers offense matches up pretty well. All that the popular opinion tho so would like to hear more bout how you see this going. Thanks

I disagree with you on penix, he went upstairs and down the field on Michigan State in the road and he was a dual threat qb. Penn State run defense is great, their weakness is the back end, why I liked Minnesota last week against them. I think lsu takes away run here.

[thomorino]

Michigan -14

[2daBank]

I disagree with you on penix, he went upstairs and down the field on Michigan State in the road and he was a dual threat qb. Penn State run defense is great, their weakness is the back end, why I liked Minnesota last week against them. I think lsu takes away run here.

I agree Hoosiers won’t run. I think this kid can pass on them tho. No he not nearly the athlete as penex (think i said that, maybe not). But I do think he capable of getting ball out into his playmakers hands vs psu suspect secondary. Dunno why same logic wouldn’t apply as last week granted gophers wrs better but Hoosiers a capable passing team w either qb imo.

[thomorino]

I don’t think there a huge drop off in QBs for Hoosiers, Pennex more talented but think the other kid has proven capable of moving the offense.

I just dunno what you see to lay 14 and the hook here? I’ll admit Hoosiers schedule gives me a little pause and they very popular but I never bought into psu being a playoff contender. Surely don’t see them as this many points better than Hoosiers and they in a poor spot they haven’t ever played well in under franklin. Plus I think Hoosiers offense matches up pretty well. All that the popular opinion tho so would like to hear more bout how you see this going. Thanks

Ramsey is a big step down and I don't see Indiana running here either, Indiana defense has had issues most of the season with good offenses.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Ramsey is a backup that has a lot of experience, I don't think there will be that big of a drop off.

[2daBank]

Ramsey is a big step down and I don't see Indiana running here either, Indiana defense has had issues most of the season with good offenses.

Do we think psu is a good offense?

[thomorino]

I agree Hoosiers won’t run. I think this kid can pass on them tho. No he not nearly the athlete as penex (think i said that, maybe not). But I do think he capable of getting ball out into his playmakers hands vs psu suspect secondary. Dunno why same logic wouldn’t apply as last week granted gophers wrs better but Hoosiers a capable passing team w either qb imo.

I also think Penn State didn't respect Minnesota last week and they weren't sharp, I think we see their best here.

[thomorino]

Do we think psu is a good offense?

I think Penn State offense is solid not great but Indiana defense has struggled this year with basics like tackling.

[thomorino]

Ramsey is a backup that has a lot of experience, I don't think there will be that big of a drop off.

Watch the Ohio State game he couldn't get a first down.

[thomorino]

Indiana had a top 40 recruiting class, I like penix, I think they'll be good next year, I don't see it yet this year.

Penix beat out Ramsey for the starting job as a freshmen, that's hard to do, penix is also not dual threat.

[2daBank]

I also think Penn State didn't respect Minnesota last week and they weren't sharp, I think we see their best here.

In lot of cases I’d agree but they have not proven that to be true off a loss under franklin, and with osu on deck I feel like it makes for a doubly bad spot to lay that kinda wood.

I really think I’m passing cause I don’t like how popular Hoosiers appear to be, just playing devils advocate with you cause you the 1st person I talk with backing psu and I’m dying to see things from that side of it!!

[thomorino]

In lot of cases I’d agree but they have not proven that to be true off a loss under franklin, and with osu on deck I feel like it makes for a doubly bad spot to lay that kinda wood.

I really think I’m passing cause I don’t like how popular Hoosiers appear to be, just playing devils advocate with you cause you the 1st person I talk with backing psu and I’m dying to see things from that side of it!!

I think that's the value though, Penn State has been horrible in the past off losses with Franklin and they know that. They still have their whole season in front of them I'd they win, 1 loss won't likely crush them if they win out. They will remember imploding off of losses last year.

[2daBank]

I think that's the value though, Penn State has been horrible in the past off losses with Franklin and they know that. They still have their whole season in front of them I'd they win, 1 loss won't likely crush them if they win out. They will remember imploding off of losses last year.

I don’t suspect they lose. Just think that a whole bunch of points. Not as if their season depends on margin here. Long as they win there season is next week (where I think they get smoked, lol)..

[thomorino]

Penix is much more mobile than Ramsey against this strong defensive front, don't care.

[thomorino]

I don’t suspect they lose. Just think that a whole bunch of points. Not as if their season depends on margin here. Long as they win there season is next week (where I think they get smoked, lol)..

I think Penn State will want to show they aren't the same team as last year I think they'll want a win by margin here.

[2daBank]

I think Penn State will want to show they aren't the same team as last year I think they'll want a win by margin here.

Fair enough. You def in minority which ain’t ever a bad thing. Gl

[thomorino]

Fair enough. You def in minority which ain’t ever a bad thing. Gl

Yeah I think if you take away the running game Ramsey is limited against good defenses.

[jtoler]

Yeah I think if you take away the running game Ramsey is limited against good defenses.

u just say the first thing that comes to ur head with no regard for if its true or not he's played well against good big 10 defenses psu -14 last yr ramsay covered easily threw for 322 and 3 tds last yr and covered on the road against osu lotta experience and played many big games on the road

[thomorino]

Michigan win

Penn State loss

37-31

[thomorino]

u just say the first thing that comes to ur head with no regard for if its true or not he's played well against good big 10 defenses psu -14 last yr ramsay covered easily threw for 322 and 3 tds last yr and covered on the road against osu lotta experience and played many big games on the road

Shut up I said Ramsey isn't that good I never said he lacks experience, he couldn't do shit after first quarter except short throws against prevent defense.