[RudyRuetigger]

this has been horrible course management from both fleetwood and lowry

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Fatty what technique does your Muni use to “smooth the greens” to make them easier I’ll let our superintendent know

[RudyRuetigger]

that fwy bunker shot you go for the homerun shot

worst case scenario, he chunks in 50 yards forward

what was he doing, trying to draw a 133 yard wedge shot from bunker with a bunker that has a deep face?

[funnyb25]

that fwy bunker shot you go for the homerun shot

worst case scenario, he chunks in 50 yards forward

what was he doing, trying to draw a 133 yard wedge shot from bunker?

Moronic decision making

[Stallion]

JJ, You wouldnt break 100 on that course.

[funnyb25]

JJ, You wouldnt break 100 on ANY course.

Fixed

[RudyRuetigger]

that fwy bunker shot you go for the homerun shot

worst case scenario, he chunks in 50 yards forward

what was he doing, trying to draw a 133 yard wedge shot from bunker with a bunker that has a deep face?

the worst case is actually catching it thin

but thats why 90% catching it fat

10% hero shot

[funnyb25]

Increasing lead with a bogey....Garbage effort.

[RudyRuetigger]

JJ, You wouldnt break 100 on that course.

your local pro would not break 100 there today, especially without spotters

[funnyb25]

No van de Velde burn here either.

[Plaza23]

What happened to JB Holmes?

66
68
69
85 ?????

[thechaoz]

Too easy? Isn't it the same course for all players so how could it have any effect?

Koepka should of destroyed it then

[2daBank]

Only good thing about this open was it helped me get some good sleep sat/sun morning, woke up early turned it on and presto I was sleeping like a baby!! No clue who won, lol.

[RudyRuetigger]

What happened to JB Holmes?

66
68
69
85 ?????

ask kvb

he doesnt think weather matters

[2daBank]

ask kvb

he doesnt think weather matters

Huh?? Weather don’t matter? Surely rain and wind effects the ball??

[KVB]

Huh?? Weather don’t matter? Surely rain and wind effects the ball??

No clue what Rudy's saying.

Just another poster confusing me with someone else.

Not sure which poster would think weather "doesn't matter."

Then again, not sure what Rudy means by "weather" and "doesn't matter" to begin with; when he's using his own definitions, it confuses everyone.

[2daBank]

No clue what Rudy's saying.

Just another poster confusing me with someone else.

Not sure which poster would think weather "doesn't matter."

Then again, not sure what Rudy means by "weather" and "doesn't matter" to begin with; when he's using his own definitions, it confuses everyone.

No dog in this fight, Just didn’t sound like something you would have said.

[KVB]

No dog in this fight, Just didn’t sound like something you would have said.

There is no fight, not even close.

Just someone saying I said something, which of course I didn't.



Like I said, no clue what the guy means.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

The course looked tougher than it seems to be playing, scores too low, course is too easy. The Open is fukkin around here, the winner should be struggling to break par...now that's golf...

Two year ago, after 3 rounds of golf, the median and mean scores were 1 over par.

Last year after 3 rounds, the median was par and the mean closer to 1 under par (about two thirds a stroke).

After these 3 rounds this year, the median is 1 under par while the mean is about 1 and two thirds strokes under par.

Golfers have been progressively doing better relative to the course in recent years.

Or the course has been progressively getting easier relative to the field in recent years.

I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons.

I could see that that being true of you, but that would be a terrible direction to take the discussion.

I think you’re confusing what the USGA does for the US Open then what they do for this tourney. Obviously weather is going to be a factor because well, most of the time the weather gets bad there this time of the year. You saw how the US players wilted when it rained today because in the states when it rains they stop playing. I’m sure Rudy would know this better than me but I’d bet that the adding of holes 7 & 8 on this course is rare when it comes to changing course conditions for a tourney. The USGA wants to make it as difficult as possible as the everyday golfer can relate more to someone making a 7 on a par 4 then someone driving the green on one.

[RudyRuetigger]

The course looked tougher than it seems to be playing, scores too low, course is too easy. The Open is fukkin around here, the winner should be struggling to break par...now that's golf...

Two year ago, after 3 rounds of golf, the median and mean scores were 1 over par.

Last year after 3 rounds, the median was par and the mean closer to 1 under par (about two thirds a stroke).

After these 3 rounds this year, the median is 1 under par while the mean is about 1 and two thirds strokes under par.

Golfers have been progressively doing better relative to the course in recent years.

Or the course has been progressively getting easier relative to the field in recent years.

I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons.

I could see that that being true of you, but that would be a terrible direction to take the discussion.

why dont you just step the fukk up and admit when wrong?

[RudyRuetigger]

I think you’re confusing what the USGA does for the US Open then what they do for this tourney. Obviously weather is going to be a factor because well, most of the time the weather gets bad there this time of the year. You saw how the US players wilted when it rained today because in the states when it rains they stop playing. I’m sure Rudy would know this better than me but I’d bet that the adding of holes 7 & 8 on this course is rare when it comes to changing course conditions for a tourney. The USGA wants to make it as difficult as possible as the everyday golfer can relate more to someone making a 7 on a par 4 then someone driving the green on one.

exactly

just look at this from MORNING to afternoon


http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/201...-of-tee-times/

[RudyRuetigger]

No clue what Rudy's saying.

Just another poster confusing me with someone else.

Not sure which poster would think weather "doesn't matter."

Then again, not sure what Rudy means by "weather" and "doesn't matter" to begin with; when he's using his own definitions, it confuses everyone.

you are the jackass saying the course was too easy

in hindsight, we can all see the weather was too easy the first 3 days

[RudyRuetigger]

bump

[maggiethebestdog]

Could it be that the course is a little easier than past venues and when the weather is good it exposes it to ridiculously low scores for an Open major???

I hate to bring logic into the equation

Sorry

[RudyRuetigger]

Could it be that the course is a little easier than past venues and when the weather is good it exposes it to ridiculously low scores for an Open major???

I hate to bring logic into the equation

Sorry

tell kvb to check in

hes ignoring thread as if he doesnt see it

im tired of fukks like him leaving threads when they look stupid

while i make a public announcement or bump threads im wrong on a play.

hardly ever wrong when it comes to something so blatant as this


fukk cukkboys is what they are

[KVB]

Could it be that the course is a little easier than past venues and when the weather is good it exposes it to ridiculously low scores for an Open major???

I hate to bring logic into the equation

Sorry

Of course it could. Not sure what the issue is here.

Weather is too easy for three days? What does that even mean? I guess next year they will make the weather harder.

Weather is weather, it's the course that gets set up to different levels of difficulty. Last I checked. Even if the expected weather dictates that set up.

There's been a push in virtually all sports to increase offense over the years.

Golf is not immune to that push.

It's simple in golf, just program weather that is "too easy" and scores will be lower.

Right????

[KVB]

tell kvb to check in

hes ignoring thread as if he doesnt see it

im tired of fukks like him leaving threads when they look stupid

while i make a public announcement or bump threads im wrong on a play.

hardly ever wrong when it comes to something so blatant as this


fukk cukkboys is what they are

Settle down guy, go find some other bullshit fight to pick. Don't act like whatever the hell you think you are saying is worth any response or time.

[RudyRuetigger]

Settle down guy, go find some other bullshit fight to pick. Don't act like whatever the hell you think you are saying is worth any response or time.

so you are wrong

we got it sunday

remember how you posted saturday?

[KVB]

so you are wrong

we got it sunday

remember how you posted saturday?

Wrong about what?

I posted stats about median scores for the past three years. Those medians were in relation to each course by themselves so that the courses themselves aren't being compared.

That's the value of the medians I used...

I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons....

Whatever right or wrong you think you need is probably based on you completely misunderstanding my post.

An utter and complete misunderstanding.

I can't help you guy, you have a history of doing this on purpose and lying about what posters say to troll.

If you did understand my post, then I'm not buying your twisting to troll gag.

But I'll just leave it at you have no clue what I was saying because you really don't.

Weak, try to pick a real argument sometime guy. Or maybe don't be so desperate to be in an argument with someone.

[RudyRuetigger]

Wrong about what?

I posted stats about median scores for the past three years. Those medians were in relation to each course by themselves so that the courses themselves aren't being compared.

That's the value of the medians I used...



Whatever right or wrong you think you need is probably based on you completely misunderstanding my post.

An utter and complete misunderstanding.

I can't help you guy, you have a history of doing this on purpose and lying about what posters say to troll.

If you did understand my post, then I'm not buying your twisting to troll gag.

But I'll just leave it at you have no clue what I was saying because you really don't.

Weak, try to pick a real argument sometime guy. Or maybe don't be so desperate to be in an argument with someone.

i guess others didnt understand it either, including phillyguy who also knows golf


why dont you clarify it for us

[KVB]

i guess others didnt understand it either, including phillyguy who also knows golf


why dont you clarify it for us

Phillyguy's post has nothing to do with mine, he just responded to me.

I just clarified it for you, you idiot, read my last post.

It also shows phillyguy and I are not talking about the same topic. I have no response to his post, I posted numbers that have nothing to do with what he's saying.

Stop already.

[RudyRuetigger]

The course looked tougher than it seems to be playing, scores too low, course is too easy. The Open is fukkin around here, the winner should be struggling to break par...now that's golf...

Two year ago, after 3 rounds of golf, the median and mean scores were 1 over par.

Last year after 3 rounds, the median was par and the mean closer to 1 under par (about two thirds a stroke).

After these 3 rounds this year, the median is 1 under par while the mean is about 1 and two thirds strokes under par.

Golfers have been progressively doing better relative to the course in recent years.

Or the course has been progressively getting easier relative to the field in recent years.

I could go on but you get the picture. Unless you can't see the value of this specific comparison, thinking weather and the different courses over the years are still factors in the comparisons.

I could see that that being true of you, but that would be a terrible direction to take the discussion.

clown show post by a clown show trying to act sharp

[KVB]

If your medians through three rounds are different, post them.

Like I said, I could go on, put the trend is the same. No matter the weather during those rounds played, good, fair or bad, the trend is the same. No matter the event or tour, it's the same. It's a more recent development, but it's the same.

Your trying to take the discussion the wrong way, like I said, it's a bad way to go because the trend is the same.

The only right or wrong is whether or not you agree with the numbers. That's all they are guy, numbers.

Again, trying to make some kind of argument that isn't there, I think I predicted that in the post.

lol.

Don't bother responding. If you need my attention again, just re read my posts in this thread.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Course is fine weather either comes or it doesn't

[maggiethebestdog]

Wow
Even if the weather is great, it is unusual for an Open course to yield as many super low scores as this one did

Why is anybody arguing this???