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  • Aaron644
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-04-07
    • 18

    #1
    BETED just F*%ked me! here is my story need help!
    depsotied about 350 dollars into a new account I opened at BetED. Over the next few weeks I my account was up to about 2600 dollars and I called BetED on what I needed to do in order to withdrawel the money. I spoke to a gentlemen going by the name of "Jimmy". he was very nice and informative on what I needed to do to withdrawel from their cashier. I sent all forms in and photo copies of my identification. I waited a few days and I was still unable to withdrawel.

    I called back and I was informed that I needed to fill out the maximum deposit limit space on the form (wich I put $250) and to send another picture of my ID. Which I did. I was finally able to withdrawel from the account, which I did.

    My balance on thier website was no zero and no money had been transfered to my bank, I called again and I was told it will take several days for the money to transfer. OK.

    Now I am watching football on sunday and I deposit 250 dollars to make a wager, and it went into my account. I lost and I was fine with that.

    I know preceed to deposit another 250 dollars into my account to bet on the 2nd half of the sunday night game. I then remembered that I had to fill out a form and I stated a 250 monthy limit. I called customer service and asked them why this money was allowed into my account, they told me that it may not have come out of my bank and to check my statement. I checked my statment and it did in fact come out of my account. I called again and inquired about this but was once again given the "run around".

    I called again tonight to ask why that money was taking out and once again spoke to "jimmy". we discussed it for a few minutes and then he asked me if I wanted a 250 dollar limit a month. I told him yes. thats what I wanted. He then freaked out on me and said something to the effect that since I only wanted a 250 limit, all of my previous winnings were null and void and he was going to cancell the money transfer, my account has been deleted, and he hung up the phone on me.

    I called back and once again spoke to "jimmy" I asked to speak to someone above him and he told me he owed the business and there was nothing I could do.

    As of right now I am out of all my deposits, all of my winnings and I am shocked and appauled at the customer service of this business. I have no idea where to turn or what to do. All of my phone calls are going unanswered. If anyone has any idea of what actions I can take now or what to do, please let me know.

    Thanks,

    Aaron
  • Aaron644
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-04-07
    • 18

    #2
    sorry for the spelling mistakes but I am in such disbelif I am shaking and can not think straight. This guy was a real jerk on the phone and now he has lots of my banking information, plus my Identification. If they are capable of this, who knows what else they can do. Really frustrated, worried and PISSED.

    Like I asked in my first post, if anyone has a good idea on how I can claim, the money I fairly won I would be most gratefull.
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    • rm18
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-20-05
      • 22291

      #3
      They are fairly high rated at B-, I have much more money than that with them so this has me very worried as well. I just requested a withdrawal yesterday and will update how that goes
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      • Aaron644
        SBR Rookie
        • 10-04-07
        • 18

        #4
        I requested a withdrawel last friday Sept 28. One for 1600 and one for 1000 as per thier rules. I jsut called to ask a question on the withdrawel amount per month when they turned it around on me and said that made all my bets null. They were very nasty, condensending and disrepectfull. It was almost as if this guy "Jimmy" took great joy in screwing me over.. it was sick and disturbing, being hung up on twice really made me think these people are not customer oriented. In the past I used BetJamaica and the ywere GREAT! If I ever had a problem they were very customer oriented. I am angry at myself for using BETED without researching first. Still in disbelief. And Still loooking for an avenue on how to collect on my wagers.
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        • rm18
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-20-05
          • 22291

          #5
          go to spoofcard.com, call them on the card, put your ex girlfriends number as the caller id, email the conversation and information to assistance@sportsbookreview.com
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          • Aaron644
            SBR Rookie
            • 10-04-07
            • 18

            #6
            I have been calling them all night! they just keep hanging up on me. I emailed my story to sbr.com allready, I am hoping they can help.
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

              BetEd has had a checkered past, and it's these types of business practices they use is exactly why I would never play there personally.

              You can fill out a complaint Form if you are in need of some assistance with this matter.
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              • Aaron644
                SBR Rookie
                • 10-04-07
                • 18

                #8
                at this point I really just really need some good info on where to turn to collect what is rightfully mine. Do I go to small claims court? higher a lawyer? what are my options?
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                • Bill Dozer
                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                  • 07-12-05
                  • 10894

                  #9
                  Hello Aaron644,

                  We will talk to BetEd in the morning about your account.
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                  • Aaron644
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 10-04-07
                    • 18

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bigboydan
                    First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

                    BetEd has had a checkered past, and it's these types of business practices they use is exactly why I would never play there personally.

                    You can fill out a complaint Form if you are in need of some assistance with this matter.
                    just saw this post! thanks for the welcome... I wish I knew you guys were here before, would have saved me a lot of heart ache. going to fill out the from now.. and sort of other advice would also be appreciated. I am mystified.
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                    • Aaron644
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 10-04-07
                      • 18

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                      Hello Aaron644,

                      We will talk to BetEd in the morning about your account.
                      Thanks. Any help in this matter would really be appreciated.
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                      • BigBollocks
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-11-06
                        • 2045

                        #12
                        Sounds like the younger brother of Tony from 5Dimes
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                        • jolub
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 08-28-07
                          • 233

                          #13
                          It sounds like they really put it to you. Do you even know what country they are in. Many countries don't give a damn about anything but their license fee. The best thing you can do is fill out a complaint here and hope. I would also go to some other forums and try to get them involved. Be sure to post your problem with them and ask for help.
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                          • operaman
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 02-21-06
                            • 157

                            #14
                            If I were you I would do NOTHING until srb gets back to you.
                            Don't piss them off or give them any ammo against you.
                            SRB is very good about this stuff and books usualy bend over backwards to please the sbr gods. (assuming they don't go rouge and in that case you are sol anyway.)

                            p.s. If sbr had any decency they would give me a job for such a nice post about them.
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                            • Aaron644
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 10-04-07
                              • 18

                              #15
                              Originally posted by operaman
                              If I were you I would do NOTHING until srb gets back to you.
                              Don't piss them off or give them any ammo against you.
                              SRB is very good about this stuff and books usualy bend over backwards to please the srb gods. (assuming they don't go rouge and in that case you are sol anyway.)

                              p.s. If srb had any decency they would give me a job for such a nice post about them.

                              Thanks for the tip! Still up and really depressed by the entire course of the events. "jimmy" said he had a recording of the conversation, there is no doubt that I am in the right. I am jsut hoping that this can be resolevd in the correct manner. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. I depsosited 350, I WON 2600, I called them and asked them how to withdraw, I filled out all paper work to thier specifications, indicating I wanted a 250 a month limit THIS IS AFTER I HAVE ALLREADY DEPOSITED, GAMBLED AND WON. I withdraw said funds. a few dasy later I depostied two bets in the amount of 250, I called and asked why I was not stopped on my second 250 bet, becasue I had indicated that on hte FORMS THEY PROVIDED IN ORDER TO WITHDRAWEL, that I wanted a limit of 250... I was then told since I had deposited 350 PRIOR to these froms being sent ALL OF MY TRANSACTIONS were NULL AND VOID.

                              WTF? Beware people.. and they were very NASTY on the phone. Jimmy told me to "shut up, and listen to me" real strong arms tactics that I am blown away about. Previous to this incidnent I found thier customer reponses lacking as well on basic issues.
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                              • SBR Lou
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 37863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BigBollocks
                                Sounds like the younger brother of Tony from 5Dimes
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                                • Aaron644
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 10-04-07
                                  • 18

                                  #17
                                  Something else I have jsut thought about. My withdrawel request went through last friday the 28th. My account at BetED showed 0.00 in my account. Now a week later they are able to stop the money transfer? Where does this money sit for over a week? After the withdrawel request goes through that money is legally mine, or so you would think. What are they doing with peoples winnings? leaving in in an account accumalated intrest? Past Sports Books would Fedex me a check within 48 hours of withdrawel.
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                                  • Bill Dozer
                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                    • 07-12-05
                                    • 10894

                                    #18
                                    I am getting the book's version of the acct. history and will update you shortly.
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                                    • Bill Dozer
                                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                      • 07-12-05
                                      • 10894

                                      #19
                                      Aaron644,

                                      BetEd describes a situation of a player taking a shot at them using the credit a player gets with the use of the eCheck.

                                      Jimmy states that you said you don't want to pay for your losses above $250 that you deposited due to putting a $250 deposit limit on the form. When asked why you deposited and bet the $500, he said you told him you were "testing their system." He said if you want to call them on the error of allowing you to exceed the $250 monthly deposit limit you would have to forfeit the winnings which came from an amount above $250. Obviously you are not going to pay $2610 to get $500. BetEd's description suggests you went ahead with your subsequent deposits because you thought your winnings were already en route.

                                      The fair thing for BetEd to do is finish collecting the last $500. If they are not collectable (NSF) it should be deducted from your winnings which would then be paid. Although it may now appear to them that you were not going to pay on any funds if you lost, if your previous deposits were collected then your winning balance should stand just as if the deposit and cashout happened months earlier. I expect this to be the outcome unless either party has something to add.
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                                      • Aaron644
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 10-04-07
                                        • 18

                                        #20
                                        I did not pay by echeck, Thye funds came out of my bank account and I have the online statements to show it. I Was jsut asking him a question on why was 500 in a month allowed to happend AFTER they recieved my signed form. I was not asking for any refund jsut an answer to my question, like I said he has the conversation tapped.

                                        And yes I bet and won, I Withdrew all of my winnings. They never came. In the meantime I made two 250 dallar deposits... and I called and asked why didn't the safety net work? thats when he said I was not getting any of my winniongs becasue in the month before I sent him the signed sheet I had deposited 350.
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                                        • Aaron644
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 10-04-07
                                          • 18

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                          Aaron644,

                                          BetEd describes a situation of a player taking a shot at them using the credit a player gets with the use of the eCheck.

                                          Jimmy states that you said you don't want to pay for your losses above $250 that you deposited due to putting a $250 deposit limit on the form. When asked why you deposited and bet the $500, he said you told him you were "testing their system." He said if you want to call them on the error of allowing you to exceed the $250 monthly deposit limit you would have to forfeit the winnings which came from an amount above $250. Obviously you are not going to pay $2610 to get $500. BetEd's description suggests you went ahead with your subsequent deposits because you thought your winnings were already en route.

                                          The fair thing for BetEd to do is finish collecting the last $500. If they are not collectable (NSF) it should be deducted from your winnings which would then be paid. Although it may now appear to them that you were not going to pay on any funds if you lost, if your previous deposits were collected then your winning balance should stand just as if the deposit and cashout happened months earlier. I expect this to be the outcome unless either party has something to add.
                                          Exactly, I am fine with the 500 loss, but I do want my winnings, that I withdrew A WEEK AGO. where is this money?
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                                          • Bill Dozer
                                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                            • 07-12-05
                                            • 10894

                                            #22
                                            Are you saying your $500 in deposits will bounce?

                                            I did not pay by echeck, Thye funds came out of my bank account and I have the online statements to show it
                                            That is what I was referring to as an eCheck, AKA EFT & ACH.
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                                            • Aaron644
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 10-04-07
                                              • 18

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                              Are you saying your $500 in deposits will bounce?



                                              That is what I was referring to as an eCheck, AKA EFT & ACH.
                                              No, it allready came out of my account. They have it.

                                              I really appreciate your help.
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                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 10894

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Aaron644
                                                No, it allready came out of my account. They have it.

                                                I really appreciate your help.
                                                OK great. They say the payout should be processed Monday morning and the funds in hand between Friday and Monday. I am also told the original payout was on business day 4 of 7.
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                                                • Aaron644
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 10-04-07
                                                  • 18

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                  OK great. They say the payout should be processed Monday morning and the funds in hand between Friday and Monday. I am also told the original payout was on business day 4 of 7.

                                                  Great!!! Thanks again! I will keep you all posted as of next monday.
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                                                  • Bill Dozer
                                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                    • 10894

                                                    #26
                                                    you are welcome
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                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #27
                                                      Good job Bill
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                                                      • swifty
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-22-06
                                                        • 672

                                                        #28
                                                        bill.

                                                        He goes all out to help players.

                                                        :
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                                                        • ronniejamedio
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 06-09-07
                                                          • 651

                                                          #29
                                                          regardless it sounds like you were making waves for no real reason. everyone knows payouts take a while for about a year now. if you set a limit, and you deposited, then why would you call to complain? who cares really? if you would of won the bets, I doubt you would of called. lesson learned- dont mess with a company not based in the u.s. who owes you money.
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                                                          • Aaron644
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 10-04-07
                                                            • 18

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ronniejamedio
                                                            regardless it sounds like you were making waves for no real reason. everyone knows payouts take a while for about a year now. if you set a limit, and you deposited, then why would you call to complain? who cares really? if you would of won the bets, I doubt you would of called. lesson learned- dont mess with a company not based in the u.s. who owes you money.
                                                            Maybe your right, however this phonecall was one of many due to piss poor customer service. Emails they said they sent never came, phonecalls got me nowhere, frustration was on my mind that night. Now I wish not only that I never called, but never sigened up with them from the get go. I saw thier ad on covers.com and thought they would be legit. I have learned more here in a week then I did in previous years. I also really appreciate all the help I recieved from this sight! If BetED comes through with what they said I will giove them props. I will let you all know what happens by next monday.
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                                                            • Aaron644
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 10-04-07
                                                              • 18

                                                              #31
                                                              UPDATE: all winnings were transfered into my account this afternoon. Thanks for all your help!
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                                                              • tblues2005
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-30-06
                                                                • 9235

                                                                #32
                                                                Aaron I am glad you got it taken care of now!! Good Luck for the rest of the season!
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                                                                • indy62
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 07-21-07
                                                                  • 321

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hello readers,

                                                                  While I realize most here will have seen right through Aaron’s confused and exaggerated post I thought I’d clarify things for everyone.

                                                                  Aaron tried to get paid on his winning deposits and then get us to refund his losing deposits in a poorly crafted scam.

                                                                  After hearing both sides of the story, Bill Dozer from Sportsbookreview.com agreed with how things were handled on our end and agreed betED.com should stop payment until we’d received our funds from Aaron which was the game plan from the beginning. For the record this issue was settled to everyone’s satisfaction five days ago.

                                                                  The following explanation is long but for those of you scoring at home here are the actual facts……


                                                                  • Aaron never spoke to me regarding what he had to do to request a payout. I’m sure he spoke to someone, but not me.

                                                                  • By the time he sent us the documentation form (We had been requesting it for 21 days and he failed to comply) he had deposited and lost $250 and then deposited and won quite a bit with the next $125, for a total of $325 in deposits.

                                                                  • Then he deposited $250 on two separate occasions bringing the total up to $825.

                                                                  • He then called saying he had authorized only $250 a month and all deposits above that amount should be voided.

                                                                  • Aaron had $2610 in pending payouts at the time and was clearly trying to get paid on his winning deposits and stiff us on his losing deposits.

                                                                  • I asked him point blank…..”Do you want us to cancel all deposits over $250?” I told him to think very carefully about the answer. He said,,…“YES!!!!”.

                                                                  • Then I told him, “Ok, we’ll cancel your payouts for $2610 as all your winnings were generated from money you did not authorize us to process.”.

                                                                  • Obviously, I was reducing his scam to the ridiculous and thought he would realize how silly he was being. He insisted he wanted his winnings and his deposits cancelled. I was in shock.

                                                                  • For clarification the form reads….”Requested monthly transfer limit. $_______ per month (IE: the maximum amount you will authorize for electronic funds transfer in any given month)”

                                                                  • As you can see the wording on the form says nothing about ‘from the time we receive the form’ (Which would later turn out to be Aaron’s argument), it simply asks for the maximum amount to process in any given month.

                                                                  • I asked if he had knowingly made these deposits even though he knew they would exceed his self imposed limit he said “Yes”.

                                                                  • When I asked why he made the deposits if he didn’t want them he stuttered, and paused before finally saying “I don’t know…….I was just testing it out?”.

                                                                  • I asked if he contacted us after his ‘Test” to let us know to cancel the wagers, he said yes. Then he thought for a moment and said he’d actually called twice but had no idea when or with whom he’d spoken. (He never called for that reason.)

                                                                  • It was AFTER the two deposits for $250 a piece LOST that he called us.

                                                                  • After giving him ample time to fast talk me into giving him both his deposit money back and pay his winnings, it was my turn to speak. As he was interrupting me I said in a firm, yet calm voice “Aaron, stop talking I’m speaking now”.

                                                                  • He wanted to argue endlessly and try to wear me down, so eventually I told him I would not spend all night with him on the telephone as we have other customers to tend to and to email accounts@beted.com and we’d resolve things in the morning. I was not dodging his phone calls, nor did I ever hang up on Aaron.

                                                                  • The payout that he later claimed was late, was in fact promised to him in 7 business days and was on day 4 at the time of his attempted fraud so I cancelled it until we actually received the funds from the checks he’d written and then reprocessed the payout as per the agreed upon decision.


                                                                  Jim Mason
                                                                  betED.com
                                                                  jimmy@beted.com
                                                                  877-772-3833
                                                                  __________________
                                                                  "I solve problems" Winston Wolf

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                                                                  Last edited by Mason : 10-09-2007 at 06:44 PM
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                                                                  • diamond
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-09-06
                                                                    • 3636

                                                                    #34
                                                                    What does this make Aaron? If this is the truth, why did he get all his winnings?
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                                                                    • Shark79
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-19-07
                                                                      • 11211

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by diamond
                                                                      What does this make Aaron? If this is the truth, why did he get all his winnings?
                                                                      My understanding is that both parties got paid. If I were BetED I would ban him for trying to pull a cheap shot at the book
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