Pats / Cinci - too good to be true?

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  • forex
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-01-07
    • 679

    #1
    Pats / Cinci - too good to be true?
    Are you shitting me -7 1/2 pm pats? I am betting max on this one. I also like the over I think they will cover by at least 10.
  • BatemanPatrickl
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-21-07
    • 18772

    #2
    Here we go again; may be wise to fade this one. Thank you for the play.
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    • White_Tiger
      SBR Sharp
      • 08-29-07
      • 465

      #3
      I'm looking @ Cin this 1 and might even bet on CIN ML as well.
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      • forex
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-01-07
        • 679

        #4
        why cin? I know the pats have a lot of momo behind them and it could be a bit overrated but I still think its a lock and they won't be upset.
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        • BatemanPatrickl
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-21-07
          • 18772

          #5
          Originally posted by forex
          why cin? I know the pats have a lot of momo behind them and it could be a bit overrated but I still think its a lock and they won't be upset.
          Never use the word "lock". I do like the over in this game.
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          • Rollins08
            SBR MVP
            • 04-20-07
            • 1337

            #6
            I think this game will be close. Cinci is due, even without Rudi.
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            • tullamore
              SBR MVP
              • 07-17-07
              • 3586

              #7
              The thing with the Pats this year is that they are purposely running up the scores on teams to prove that the whole cameragate thing didn't matter. The went for it on 4th and goal form the 1 late versus the Charges, years past they would have just kicked the field goal. The only way I could play this game is the Pats, I would not call it a lock. Nothing should be a lock especially after all the upset this weekend.
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              • durito
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                even with how good the pats have been this year, laying 7.5 on the road on monday night at a decent team is a pretty tough move.

                There are a # of angles working against the Pats in this game. They may win by 30, but they are due for a letdown. They may win 13+ games this year, but they won't cover them all. Cincy should be a bit desperate too, 2-2 is a lot better than 1-3.
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                • SBR_John
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-12-05
                  • 16471

                  #9
                  Betting those road favorites in the NFL this year has not been very profitable. I'd guess they are something like 6 - 15.

                  I think the play here is on the over. Cinci has to know they have to score everytime they get the ball or face being routed on Monday Night Football. I'd look for super aggressive play calling by the home dog and a nothing-to-lose attitude that could make them a live dog.
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                  • BatemanPatrickl
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-21-07
                    • 18772

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                    Betting those road favorites in the NFL this year has not been very profitable. I'd guess they are something like 6 - 15.

                    I think the play here is on the over. Cinci has to know they have to score everytime they get the ball or face being routed on Monday Night Football. I'd look for super aggressive play calling by the home dog and a nothing-to-lose attitude that could make them a live dog.
                    Good post Johnny; Johnny, I think the over is a good call here. Johnny, did you get my e-mails?
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                    • WestsidePete
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-19-07
                      • 8049

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                      Here we go again; may be wise to fade this one. Thank you for the play.
                      Cinci will put out everything for the win...they don't want to go 1-3...it will be closer then you think...their defense held Seattle under 20 points until that TD at the end of the game...I'm going to tease CIN +14.5 and under 61 on this one...
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                      • jon13009
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-07
                        • 1258

                        #12
                        The Pats are playing away from home in a hostile Bengal staduim, and this is a MNF game. The Pats are still burning about spygate, and Belichick wants to show how dominant his team is on MNF. Rudi Johnson is hurt, and the Bengals may be forced to pass into a waiting Patriot defense. All things point to the Patriots. But somehow my gut feels queasy about this game.

                        Should be an over game as well.

                        GL, but I would pass on this game even with NE the clear favorite.
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                        • njschimpf
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-01-06
                          • 139

                          #13
                          Yeah good info but I think that the Pats will keep running up the score on teams Pats cover in this one
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                          • forex
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-01-07
                            • 679

                            #14
                            the over is now 54 1/2 it could get a bit risky now if cincy offense stalls
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                            • SBR_John
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-12-05
                              • 16471

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                              Good post Johnny; Johnny, I think the over is a good call here. Johnny, did you get my e-mails?
                              Sorry Pat I dont have an email here anymore. Emails to me are handled by the company. You can send me a PM though.
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                              • Breaker
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 04-17-07
                                • 137

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WestsidePete
                                their defense held Seattle under 20 points until that TD at the end of the game
                                That's the same defense that held Cleveland to only 51 points, right?
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                                • BatemanPatrickl
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-21-07
                                  • 18772

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SBR_John
                                  Sorry Pat I dont have an email here anymore. Emails to me are handled by the company. You can send me a PM though.
                                  Johnny, they took away my private messages after I replied to a poster, CURIOUS, who threatened me. The poster didn't send the original message, just my reply and Bill Dozer took away my private messages.

                                  Johnny, Bill Dozer is a dictator that needs to be removed from power. He reminds me of Idi Amin:



                                  Make the right call Johnny!
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                                  • SBR_John
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-12-05
                                    • 16471

                                    #18
                                    Yea the suits are on it. Everyone is under some kind of review around here. Im just glad to see family pictures still on my desk when I walk in on Mondays. A winning week will turn it all around.
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                                    • BatemanPatrickl
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-21-07
                                      • 18772

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                      Yea the suits are on it. Everyone is under some kind of review around here. Im just glad to see family pictures still on my desk when I walk in on Mondays. A winning week will turn it all around.
                                      Johnny, make the call and get my private messages back.
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                                      • ronniejamedio
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 06-09-07
                                        • 651

                                        #20
                                        hmm..

                                        crazy week in college and pro. hard to say whats going to happen. most times when a over looks golden it doesnt hit. such as the nyg-phils game. the pats run good def schemes, and cinn without rudi will allow more linebackers to cover the short pass. I am thinking under and pats covering here.
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                                        • forex
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-01-07
                                          • 679

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ronniejamedio
                                          crazy week in college and pro. hard to say whats going to happen. most times when a over looks golden it doesnt hit. such as the nyg-phils game. the pats run good def schemes, and cinn without rudi will allow more linebackers to cover the short pass. I am thinking under and pats covering here.
                                          well lets face it the over in the nyg/phil game was way too high. The offense on both sides but particularly Phil was non-existent with injuries and rookies.
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                                          • ShamsWoof10
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-15-06
                                            • 4827

                                            #22
                                            I like the Under..

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                                            • WestsidePete
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-19-07
                                              • 8049

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Breaker
                                              That's the same defense that held Cleveland to only 51 points, right?

                                              I know ..everything looks like an obvious over but I think both defenses will keep the total reasonable...Cinci can't give up 40-50 points a game every game.....
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Cincy is a very weak team, this one is very easy

                                                Lay even 9
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                                                • MBENZ
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-07-07
                                                  • 5238

                                                  #25
                                                  People that think the MNF dog philosophy will work are in for a rude awakening tonite.Pats will iniliate these guys tonight.You over players have no fear,NE may cover that themselves.
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                                                  • ronniejamedio
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 06-09-07
                                                    • 651

                                                    #26
                                                    no orleans was a no show last week on mnf. so I am skeptical about how cinn comes in tonight. i am thinking 31-13 pats
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                                                    • Seattle Slew
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-02-06
                                                      • 7373

                                                      #27
                                                      I agree. Cinci played well last week at Seattle and should be competitive tonight. I'd say NE, 27-24, but 7.5 is way too many points on the road.

                                                      [QUOTE=durito;361863]even with how good the pats have been this year, laying 7.5 on the road on monday night at a decent team is a pretty tough move.
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                                                      • SBR_John
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-12-05
                                                        • 16471

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                        People that think the MNF dog philosophy will work are in for a rude awakening tonite.Pats will iniliate these guys tonight.You over players have no fear,NE may cover that themselves.
                                                        The home underdog on MNF was 75% for about 24 years which is or was pretty strong. Since about 2000 I believe it is less than 50%.

                                                        Just one of those strange things in gambling that can't be explained. Many, many great teams fell on the road on MNF. How about the Bears loss to the gunslinging Dolphins in the year they simply destroyed the league and won every game except that one?

                                                        I still have a hard time betting against the home dog on MNF.
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                                                        • betplom
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-20-06
                                                          • 13444

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by WestsidePete
                                                          Cinci will put out everything for the win...they don't want to go 1-3...it will be closer then you think...their defense held Seattle under 20 points until that TD at the end of the game
                                                          I like NE, I'm hoping Cincy's defence plays like they did against Cleveland !!
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                                                          • prop
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-04-07
                                                            • 1073

                                                            #30
                                                            There is some interesting analysis in this thread. How can I go about quantifying which team is "due" - I think that could be a missing piece in my arsenal. If SBR could develop a team is due and team is hot or cold calculator this would be very helpful

                                                            In all seriousness. I think this line is to high
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                                                            • raiders72002
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-06-07
                                                              • 3368

                                                              #31
                                                              Tease NE with Tenn next week.
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                                                              • koko
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 05-18-06
                                                                • 160

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by prop
                                                                There is some interesting analysis in this thread. How can I go about quantifying which team is "due" - I think that could be a missing piece in my arsenal. If SBR could develop a team is due and team is hot or cold calculator this would be very helpful


                                                                Post of the day!!!!

                                                                FWIW, I teased this game to -2.5 and round robined (2 and 3 teamers) with the following 9/30 games: ATL, NYG, SF, Minn, and Det.

                                                                So, I am looking for Pats -2.5 to bring home the money
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                                                                • forex
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-01-07
                                                                  • 679

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I think that many of you all are waiting for the one game that will bring the dog barking and I can tell you this is not the one. Pats will take this one. The big game thats going down is going to be one with the colts
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                                                                  • durito
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                                    • 13173

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by prop
                                                                    There is some interesting analysis in this thread. How can I go about quantifying which team is "due" - I think that could be a missing piece in my arsenal. If SBR could develop a team is due and team is hot or cold calculator this would be very helpful

                                                                    In all seriousness. I think this line is to high

                                                                    I quantified it with a series of angles:

                                                                    1) Teams that start 3-0 su and ats are 6-18 on the road as a favorite or small dog in week 4 (1-1 yesterday with pitt losing and green bay winning

                                                                    2) an angle LT brought up here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-handic...460-plays.html

                                                                    That plays against road favorites off a 11+pt win at home.


                                                                    It's not a game I'm interested in playing, but those angles get me leaning toward New England being due for a letdown.
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                                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                                      • 12757

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Pats are 9-2 last 11 road games ATS
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