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    The more lines in NJ the more people flock there

    If they have 5 properties they will be 2nd best choice in USA
    Betfair is line provider NJ MEADOWLANDS

    Delaware whore shit already

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    I wonder when the other operators are planning to go live in AC:

    Ballys/Harrahs/Caesars: Line originator = Caesars Entertainment


    Tropicana: Cantor


    Golden Nugget AC: Not sure the line originator here


    Any press releases out there



    I can confirm dime lines at Wil Hill books for mlb $-lines, 20-cent 1st 5/totals. Not bad, standard
    The Golden Nugget Las Vegas is independent. Probably Golden Nugget AC will have the same lines.

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    I went to Monmouth Park in NJ on Saturday. Aside from offshore I don't have any other frame of reference, I've never been to a sportsbook in Vegas.

    It just seemed very limited to me. Looked like it was just "bet the board" they had no self-service kiosks, and I don't think you can buy points at all. Like if an over under is 8.5, I don't think you can buy it up to 9. Again, never been to Vegas sportsbook so I don't know if that's a standard thing or not.

    No live betting at all (though I'm sure it's coming eventually)

    I was in Barcelona in February at a casino and they have these live kiosks that offer literally everything. Lower level tennis, random South American soccer matches.. that's the stuff I'd like to see. Not sure if they'll ever be offering that. But they aren't even a week in so I'm sure a lot more is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattymayo View Post
    I went to Monmouth Park in NJ on Saturday. Aside from offshore I don't have any other frame of reference, I've never been to a sportsbook in Vegas.

    It just seemed very limited to me. Looked like it was just "bet the board" they had no self-service kiosks, and I don't think you can buy points at all. Like if an over under is 8.5, I don't think you can buy it up to 9. Again, never been to Vegas sportsbook so I don't know if that's a standard thing or not.

    No live betting at all (though I'm sure it's coming eventually)

    I was in Barcelona in February at a casino and they have these live kiosks that offer literally everything. Lower level tennis, random South American soccer matches.. that's the stuff I'd like to see. Not sure if they'll ever be offering that. But they aren't even a week in so I'm sure a lot more is coming.
    If you want to buy points or do any funky parlays, you usually have to ask at the window in Vegas. The book manager will either say yay or nay. I've had the Mirage allow me to parlay a big underdog in boxing with other "normal" sports that way before. Soccer is limited to MLS usually, except maybe at Will Hill books. As far as tennis, El Cortez had a few selected early round matches at the French Open, but most places had nothing until the round of 16. You won't see Challenger matches on the board. Heck, even the French open wasn't on the board, you had to get the sheets of paper to see those odds.
    Live wagering you will get on basketball or football, or maybe even hockey, but not normally with baseball. You need to check all the paper sheets they have to get your full options. In all the places I have been in Vegas, I have never seen a self service kiosk for sports. To cash out slot vouchers, yes. But for sports, no.
    Last edited by SnakesPicks; 06-18-18 at 09:04 PM. Reason: Forgot to mention live wagering and kiosk.

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    Legal cannot compete with bet options offshore

    not even close

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Legal cannot compete with bet options offshore

    not even close
    Blah.. blah... It almost seems like you make money by people wagering online JJ. lol

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    Legals places only have approx 60-70% of bet offers vs offshore
    Bet types about 75%

    It is a big difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Legals places only have approx 60-70% of bet offers vs offshore
    Bet types about 75%
    It is a big difference
    True that, but have you heard the saying "Give 'em enough rope, and they will hang themselves"? That is what 5Dimes, etc. do. They give you so many options, you can get nutty with your picks. The books certainly do hope you get all giddy and crazy with your wagers. The best chance of winning is limiting your picks and keeping it simple. Thusly, I don't care about 99% of those innumerable options.
    Last edited by SnakesPicks; 06-18-18 at 09:41 PM.

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    Snakes where you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Snakes where you from?
    Still from the western part of Massachusetts JJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakesPicks View Post
    If you want to buy points or do any funky parlays, you usually have to ask at the window in Vegas. The book manager will either say yay or nay. I've had the Mirage allow me to parlay a big underdog in boxing with other "normal" sports that way before. Soccer is limited to MLS usually, except maybe at Will Hill books. As far as tennis, El Cortez had a few selected early round matches at the French Open, but most places had nothing until the round of 16. You won't see Challenger matches on the board. Heck, even the French open wasn't on the board, you had to get the sheets of paper to see those odds.
    Live wagering you will get on basketball or football, or maybe even hockey, but not normally with baseball. You need to check all the paper sheets they have to get your full options. In all the places I have been in Vegas, I have never seen a self service kiosk for sports. To cash out slot vouchers, yes. But for sports, no.
    Interesting, especially you saying you've never seen a self service kiosk in Vegas. I assumed they had them based on what I saw in England and Spain and figured those machines had tons more betting choices.

    So how does live betting work without kiosks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattymayo View Post
    Interesting, especially you saying you've never seen a self service kiosk in Vegas. I assumed they had them based on what I saw in England and Spain and figured those machines had tons more betting choices.

    So how does live betting work without kiosks?
    Just like online betting, during TV breaks, they bop a live line on the board. Then you have until the action restarts to bet it, at the windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattymayo View Post
    Interesting, especially you saying you've never seen a self service kiosk in Vegas. I assumed they had them based on what I saw in England and Spain and figured those machines had tons more betting choices.

    So how does live betting work without kiosks?
    You can't have true in-play live betting manually. Needs a computer/phone/kiosk as everything changes too fast.

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    Bottom line legal wagering a good safe second option vs offshore wagering

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    Just announced....Meadowlands July 15th. They got it going early.

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    Meadowlands will be high volume

    Unreal location............MILLIONS OF PEOPLE RIGHT AROUND IT

    Actually 17 million within 30 miles

    Its mind boggling
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    Are NJ or Delaware offering team totals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Meadowlands will be high volume

    Unreal location............MILLIONS OF PEOPLE RIGHT AROUND IT

    Actually 17 million within 30 miles

    Its mind boggling
    Can you imagine what it's going to be like there on a Sunday with the Jets or Giants playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty68 View Post
    Are NJ or Delaware offering team totals?
    I'm sure.

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    Reason I ask is I'm under the impression these are actually hard to find in Vegas. If I'm misinformed I apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    Can you imagine what it's going to be like there on a Sunday with the Jets or Giants playing?

    as of now not allowed to open when football teams plays

    Racetrack never been open because of traffic and parking issues when nfl plays

    No idea what they will do.biggest day of week is Sunday for betting

    The place is going to be so crowded it will be unreal if allowed to open on Sundays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty68 View Post
    Reason I ask is I'm under the impression these are actually hard to find in Vegas. If I'm misinformed I apologize.
    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    as of now not allowed to open when football teams plays

    Racetrack never been open because of traffic and parking issues when nfl plays

    No idea what they will do.biggest day of week is Sunday for betting

    The place is going to be so crowded it will be unreal if allowed to open on Sundays
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakesPicks View Post
    Still from the western part of Massachusetts JJ.
    you was a different shift of JJ you must have talked to

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    Quote Originally Posted by homerbush View Post
    you was a different shift of JJ you must have talked to
    By my count there has to be 39 guys posting under the JJGOLD handle. Every day its a new personality, new way to type, new way to spell. They don't even try and hide it.

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