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    Koufax not pitching tonight , is huge mistake

    Wtf are they thinking

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    He still playing?

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    Is Koufax even still alive?

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    Stfu

    you know I call clay Koufax

    get with it

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    I don't think this a bad move: I think Roberts thinking he just needs 1 in Houston to get back to la. And he thinks kershaw on normal rest has a better chance of accomplishing that. If he sends him out there tonight and he gets beat it series over. On other hand if they can steal this game tonight without him they in big time drivers seat w kershaw having chance to put the hammer down as Houston not winning 6 and 7 in la no matter who pitching!

    I like Stros to win series either way but I understand why he not using kershaw tonight as that almost feels like he pushing all his chips in on this 1 game..

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    The main reason his postseason ERA sucks is cause he was used I'm short rest so many times.

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    Huge mistake

    huge

    feel like julia Roberts right now

    win or lose tonight

    huge mistake

    jansen confidence shot

    hell be Fernando Rodney in 2 years

    if this plays out

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    The main reason his postseason ERA sucks is cause he was used I'm short rest so many times.
    I was trying to find his numbers on short rest cause I was thinking they weren't great. Let's be real tho, the reason his playoff era high cause my cards pushed his shit in multiple times!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    The main reason his postseason ERA sucks is cause he was used I'm short rest so many times.
    Try again

    he had 2 terrible innings vs the cardinals

    who had a sick hungry lineup

    stop it

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    Let’s say dodgers win tonight

    then you have Koufax vs Dallas on road

    then bullpen game 7

    hes the best in the game

    give him the ball

    atlesst go out on his arm

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    I really don't think it that bad of a move bro.. series over if kershaw goes tonight and loses..

    I guarantee that is on his mind that ultimately he only has to get 1 in Houston which might be only realistic goal anyhow with how dominate stros been at home this postseason! Kershaw on normal rest gives him best chance of accomplishing that..

    I think Stros can win 1 more in la w verlander, but if Doyers steal this one kershaw be pitching to put series away for all intensive purposes cause I don't believe Stros can win 2 in la regardless of who starts them..

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    suddenly I'm think'n about these.....


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    Koufax ain’t losing

    sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    suddenly I'm think'n about these.....

    What is this? Where’s the tooth brush?

    Stop trying so hard

    Just be you

    and enjoy cali guy stuff

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    Understand your point as well, better to go down with your best pitching as many times as possible.

    That said if I was him I'd be nervous about putting whole series on him tonight on short rest against a lethal lineup.

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    I agree. Why is line dropping though?

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    The ace needs to go 1, 4, 7

    That's the way it works

    Playing w fire if you deviate.

    Leaving WS up to 2nd tier pitchers and bullpen is poor mgmt.

    Jack Morris 10 innings game 7 26 years ago yesterday. Pitched 1, 4, 7....Twins won 2 of 3, that's how you play the odds w the ace....thriw him out there and win 2 of 3 starts, not 100% of his starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    The ace needs to go 1, 4, 7

    That's the way it works

    Playing w fire if you deviate.

    Leaving WS up to 2nd tier pitchers and bullpen is poor mgmt.

    Jack Morris 10 innings game 7 26 years ago yesterday. Pitched 1, 4, 7....Twins won 2 of 3, that's how you play the odds w the ace....thriw him out there and win 2 of 3 starts, not 100% of his starts.
    These guys are pussies now man. They can't even pitch 4 innings. Apparently it's called analytics.

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    Guys no need to respond

    it’s huge mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    suddenly I'm think'n about these.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    more like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    What is this? Where’s the tooth brush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    The ace needs to go 1, 4, 7

    That's the way it works

    Playing w fire if you deviate.

    Leaving WS up to 2nd tier pitchers and bullpen is poor mgmt.

    Jack Morris 10 innings game 7 26 years ago yesterday. Pitched 1, 4, 7....Twins won 2 of 3, that's how you play the odds w the ace....thriw him out there and win 2 of 3 starts, not 100% of his starts.
    Game has changed, bullpens win championships these days. There a reason for this cause it been proven bringing in dominate pen guys is more effective than leaving your starter out there. When those pitchers of yesteryear were pitching complete games they weren't facing lineups full of guys 1-9 with more than 20 home runs.

    Not all pitchers pitch well on short rest. I would rather do what gives my guy best chance of success than sticking to some plan that others decided was best for different pitchers. Ideally my ace was like mad bum and I could put him out there 4-5 times in a series but much rather get 2 world class performances that win me 2 games than throwing him out on short rest twice for 1 extra start. Especially when I have a elite pen, if you can't figure out how to get 2 wins w/o ace then you not World Series champ material anyways.. . if I'm gonna win or lose a series it not gonna be because some guy 50 years ago did it a certain way so I feel obligated to do same cause it keeps me safe from criticism.
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    TD has good points

    but he also blessed as a St. Louis fan

    la Russa mccarthy etc

    koufax needs to go tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    TD has good points

    but he also blessed as a St. Louis fan

    la Russa mccarthy etc

    koufax needs to go tonight
    Like I said bro I can see it both ways, I certainly wouldn't say it was a mistake to throw him out there tonight either.. . I just don't blame Roberts for not wanting to risk whole series putting him out on short rest vs this lineup at home!!

    Also and I think this a KEY POINT ya gotta believe he looking at facing Morton and thinking if he can get a 6 inning 3 run performance out of wood (which he plenty capable of) then they could easily take this game and have kershaw in position to put them away for all intensive purposes.

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    Not going with Kershaw tonight basically means he won't start game 7.

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    Kershaw should demand the ball 2nite.

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    Guys

    this is easy

    wont be a game 7 if Koufax doesn’t go tonight

    and I’m stros +220

    if lad wins some how, what you start Koufax on road game 5, then bullpen game 7??? So dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Not going with Kershaw tonight basically means he won't start game 7.
    Right but if he gets beat tonight won't be a game 7 or 6.. Stros won't have verlander or keachal in game 7 either. Doyers still with huge pen advantage, way it setting up doyers just have to find way to get to game 7 and it be advantage them., I rather get one more dominate performance out of him
    than 2 decent starts or possibly a bad start. They need that one dominate performance to get back to la. Or if doyers can steal game tonight then he can all but bury Stros if they go up 3-2.. have to trust your lineup can hit Morton tonight, wood capable of giving them 5-6 good innings. They pitch kershaw tonight and he wins then keuchal wins game 5 and it 3-2 Stros with verlander pitching game 6. They gotta beat Morton tonight with wood and pen to truely have great shot at winning it all imo.

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    I honestly think pitching kershaw tonight guarantees they would lose game 5. Then they have to beat verlander gm 6 and whoever in game 7.

    You have to trust rest of your team to beat Morton tonight if you truely the champs!!

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    So really if you pitch Kershaw tonight you not gonna have him game 7 cause there won't be one! Use him up here and Stros win next 2. I've actually convinced myself this the absolute right move!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Kershaw should demand the ball 2nite.
    he was spotted wearing this tshirt outside minute maid a half hour ago:


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    dodgers almost favored now.

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    If you go Koufax, Drysdale, Peranoski, and Koufax, you can't go wrong.

    Plenty of lefties in the bullpen with Podres and Richert.

    With Willie and Tommy Davis, Wills, Roseboro, Howard, Moon, Fairly, Gilliam, Tracewski ,McMullen, you can't go wrong.

    Alston makes the right moves in the clutch.
    I'm with you LKid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by str View Post
    If you go Koufax, Drysdale, Peranoski, and Koufax, you can't go wrong.

    Plenty of lefties in the bullpen with Podres and Richert.

    With Willie and Tommy Davis, Wills, Roseboro, Howard, Moon, Fairly, Gilliam, Tracewski ,McMullen, you can't go wrong.

    Alston makes the right moves in the clutch.
    I'm with you LKid.
    This is why ^ str hands down best on site

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