Koufax not pitching tonight , is huge mistake

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  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #1
    Koufax not pitching tonight , is huge mistake
    Wtf are they thinking
  • paco
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-07-09
    • 62873

    #2
    He still playing?
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    • BigOrange
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-13-09
      • 6745

      #3
      Is Koufax even still alive?
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      • Louisvillekid1
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-17-07
        • 52143

        #4
        Stfu

        you know I call clay Koufax

        get with it
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          I don't think this a bad move: I think Roberts thinking he just needs 1 in Houston to get back to la. And he thinks kershaw on normal rest has a better chance of accomplishing that. If he sends him out there tonight and he gets beat it series over. On other hand if they can steal this game tonight without him they in big time drivers seat w kershaw having chance to put the hammer down as Houston not winning 6 and 7 in la no matter who pitching!

          I like Stros to win series either way but I understand why he not using kershaw tonight as that almost feels like he pushing all his chips in on this 1 game..
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          • krk1030
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-13-08
            • 17610

            #6
            The main reason his postseason ERA sucks is cause he was used I'm short rest so many times.
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            • Louisvillekid1
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-17-07
              • 52143

              #7
              Huge mistake

              huge

              feel like julia Roberts right now

              win or lose tonight

              huge mistake

              jansen confidence shot

              hell be Fernando Rodney in 2 years

              if this plays out
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #8
                Originally posted by krk1030
                The main reason his postseason ERA sucks is cause he was used I'm short rest so many times.
                I was trying to find his numbers on short rest cause I was thinking they weren't great. Let's be real tho, the reason his playoff era high cause my cards pushed his shit in multiple times!!
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                • Louisvillekid1
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-17-07
                  • 52143

                  #9
                  Originally posted by krk1030
                  The main reason his postseason ERA sucks is cause he was used I'm short rest so many times.
                  Try again

                  he had 2 terrible innings vs the cardinals

                  who had a sick hungry lineup

                  stop it
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                  • Louisvillekid1
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-17-07
                    • 52143

                    #10
                    Let’s say dodgers win tonight

                    then you have Koufax vs Dallas on road

                    then bullpen game 7

                    hes the best in the game

                    give him the ball

                    atlesst go out on his arm
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      I really don't think it that bad of a move bro.. series over if kershaw goes tonight and loses..

                      I guarantee that is on his mind that ultimately he only has to get 1 in Houston which might be only realistic goal anyhow with how dominate stros been at home this postseason! Kershaw on normal rest gives him best chance of accomplishing that..

                      I think Stros can win 1 more in la w verlander, but if Doyers steal this one kershaw be pitching to put series away for all intensive purposes cause I don't believe Stros can win 2 in la regardless of who starts them..
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43558

                        #12
                        suddenly I'm think'n about these.....

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                        • Louisvillekid1
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-17-07
                          • 52143

                          #13
                          Koufax ain’t losing

                          sigh
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                          • Louisvillekid1
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-17-07
                            • 52143

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Auto Donk
                            suddenly I'm think'n about these.....

                            What is this? Where’s the tooth brush?

                            Stop trying so hard

                            Just be you

                            and enjoy cali guy stuff
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #15
                              Understand your point as well, better to go down with your best pitching as many times as possible.

                              That said if I was him I'd be nervous about putting whole series on him tonight on short rest against a lethal lineup.
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                              • lakerboy
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #16
                                I agree. Why is line dropping though?
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                                • MinnesotaFats
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-18-10
                                  • 14758

                                  #17
                                  The ace needs to go 1, 4, 7

                                  That's the way it works

                                  Playing w fire if you deviate.

                                  Leaving WS up to 2nd tier pitchers and bullpen is poor mgmt.

                                  Jack Morris 10 innings game 7 26 years ago yesterday. Pitched 1, 4, 7....Twins won 2 of 3, that's how you play the odds w the ace....thriw him out there and win 2 of 3 starts, not 100% of his starts.
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94379

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                    The ace needs to go 1, 4, 7

                                    That's the way it works

                                    Playing w fire if you deviate.

                                    Leaving WS up to 2nd tier pitchers and bullpen is poor mgmt.

                                    Jack Morris 10 innings game 7 26 years ago yesterday. Pitched 1, 4, 7....Twins won 2 of 3, that's how you play the odds w the ace....thriw him out there and win 2 of 3 starts, not 100% of his starts.
                                    These guys are pussies now man. They can't even pitch 4 innings. Apparently it's called analytics.
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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #19
                                      Guys no need to respond

                                      it’s huge mistake
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                                      • Kermit
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-27-10
                                        • 32555

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                        suddenly I'm think'n about these.....

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                                        • Auto Donk
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-03-13
                                          • 43558

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kermit
                                          more like this:

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                                          • DiggityDaggityDo
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-30-08
                                            • 81450

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                            What is this? Where’s the tooth brush?
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                              The ace needs to go 1, 4, 7

                                              That's the way it works

                                              Playing w fire if you deviate.

                                              Leaving WS up to 2nd tier pitchers and bullpen is poor mgmt.

                                              Jack Morris 10 innings game 7 26 years ago yesterday. Pitched 1, 4, 7....Twins won 2 of 3, that's how you play the odds w the ace....thriw him out there and win 2 of 3 starts, not 100% of his starts.
                                              Game has changed, bullpens win championships these days. There a reason for this cause it been proven bringing in dominate pen guys is more effective than leaving your starter out there. When those pitchers of yesteryear were pitching complete games they weren't facing lineups full of guys 1-9 with more than 20 home runs.

                                              Not all pitchers pitch well on short rest. I would rather do what gives my guy best chance of success than sticking to some plan that others decided was best for different pitchers. Ideally my ace was like mad bum and I could put him out there 4-5 times in a series but much rather get 2 world class performances that win me 2 games than throwing him out on short rest twice for 1 extra start. Especially when I have a elite pen, if you can't figure out how to get 2 wins w/o ace then you not World Series champ material anyways.. . if I'm gonna win or lose a series it not gonna be because some guy 50 years ago did it a certain way so I feel obligated to do same cause it keeps me safe from criticism.
                                              Last edited by 2daBank; 10-28-17, 05:18 PM.
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                                              • Louisvillekid1
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-17-07
                                                • 52143

                                                #24
                                                TD has good points

                                                but he also blessed as a St. Louis fan

                                                la Russa mccarthy etc

                                                koufax needs to go tonight
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                  TD has good points

                                                  but he also blessed as a St. Louis fan

                                                  la Russa mccarthy etc

                                                  koufax needs to go tonight
                                                  Like I said bro I can see it both ways, I certainly wouldn't say it was a mistake to throw him out there tonight either.. . I just don't blame Roberts for not wanting to risk whole series putting him out on short rest vs this lineup at home!!

                                                  Also and I think this a KEY POINT ya gotta believe he looking at facing Morton and thinking if he can get a 6 inning 3 run performance out of wood (which he plenty capable of) then they could easily take this game and have kershaw in position to put them away for all intensive purposes.
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                                                  • KRIT
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-11-14
                                                    • 12878

                                                    #26
                                                    Not going with Kershaw tonight basically means he won't start game 7.
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                                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 04-04-11
                                                      • 37271

                                                      #27
                                                      Kershaw should demand the ball 2nite.
                                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #28
                                                        Guys

                                                        this is easy

                                                        wont be a game 7 if Koufax doesn’t go tonight

                                                        and I’m stros +220

                                                        if lad wins some how, what you start Koufax on road game 5, then bullpen game 7??? So dumb
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KRIT
                                                          Not going with Kershaw tonight basically means he won't start game 7.
                                                          Right but if he gets beat tonight won't be a game 7 or 6.. Stros won't have verlander or keachal in game 7 either. Doyers still with huge pen advantage, way it setting up doyers just have to find way to get to game 7 and it be advantage them., I rather get one more dominate performance out of him
                                                          than 2 decent starts or possibly a bad start. They need that one dominate performance to get back to la. Or if doyers can steal game tonight then he can all but bury Stros if they go up 3-2.. have to trust your lineup can hit Morton tonight, wood capable of giving them 5-6 good innings. They pitch kershaw tonight and he wins then keuchal wins game 5 and it 3-2 Stros with verlander pitching game 6. They gotta beat Morton tonight with wood and pen to truely have great shot at winning it all imo.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            I honestly think pitching kershaw tonight guarantees they would lose game 5. Then they have to beat verlander gm 6 and whoever in game 7.

                                                            You have to trust rest of your team to beat Morton tonight if you truely the champs!!
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #31
                                                              So really if you pitch Kershaw tonight you not gonna have him game 7 cause there won't be one! Use him up here and Stros win next 2. I've actually convinced myself this the absolute right move!! Lol
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                                                              • Auto Donk
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-03-13
                                                                • 43558

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                Kershaw should demand the ball 2nite.
                                                                he was spotted wearing this tshirt outside minute maid a half hour ago:

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                                                                • lakerboy
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                                  • 94379

                                                                  #33
                                                                  dodgers almost favored now.
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                                                                  • str
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                                    • 11717

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If you go Koufax, Drysdale, Peranoski, and Koufax, you can't go wrong.

                                                                    Plenty of lefties in the bullpen with Podres and Richert.

                                                                    With Willie and Tommy Davis, Wills, Roseboro, Howard, Moon, Fairly, Gilliam, Tracewski ,McMullen, you can't go wrong.

                                                                    Alston makes the right moves in the clutch.
                                                                    I'm with you LKid.
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                                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                                      • 52143

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by str
                                                                      If you go Koufax, Drysdale, Peranoski, and Koufax, you can't go wrong.

                                                                      Plenty of lefties in the bullpen with Podres and Richert.

                                                                      With Willie and Tommy Davis, Wills, Roseboro, Howard, Moon, Fairly, Gilliam, Tracewski ,McMullen, you can't go wrong.

                                                                      Alston makes the right moves in the clutch.
                                                                      I'm with you LKid.
                                                                      This is why ^ str hands down best on site
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