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    At this stage in 2011 the St Louis Cardinals were +7500

    To win the world series.

    Same today

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    They could win you never know we got some good players

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    No chance.

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    baseball can be a toss up when you get to the playoffs

    definitely worth a shot at 75-1

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    bullpen is killing it lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheatgrass View Post
    bullpen is killing it lately
    They been great the last month or so since putting rosenthal back at closer where he belongs. Now only if matheny would stop doing dumb shit like leaving Oh out there vs lefties who crushing him this season. We have 3-4 lefty relievers there never a circumstance where oh should be pitching to a left handed hitter!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jts1207 View Post
    No chance.
    Spoken like someone who knows jack shit. All they gotta do is overtake the scrubbies who not exactly playing great and who cards have 7 games against in sept. Very conceivable they win the division then who knows. I know neither nats nor doyers would be thrilled to see them in the playoffs considering how many times cards have knocked them off in the past.

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    Yup and yup
    im just thankful that Cards we're resilient enough to still have life
    after blowing over 10 saves and numerous holds this year

    could you imagine their record if they woulda converted on even half the save opportunities
    even 6 of them would be 12 game swing , take away 6 losses and add 6 wins , cards
    wouldmbe running away with the central

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel_CashFlow View Post
    Yup and yup
    im just thankful that Cards we're resilient enough to still have life
    after blowing over 10 saves and numerous holds this year

    could you imagine their record if they woulda converted on even half the save opportunities
    even 6 of them would be 12 game swing , take away 6 losses and add 6 wins , cards
    wouldmbe running away with the central
    That why most metrics had them as a team that should have been 8-11 games over .500 before this streak.

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    The Braves pulled an epic choke in 2011, it won't happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    The Braves pulled an epic choke in 2011, it won't happen again.
    They don't need that to happen, they already neck and neck w cubs and play them 7 times in sept. They control their own destiny this season due to cubs already choking. Nowhere near same circumstance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    They could win you never know we got some good players
    No dodgers or nationals would crush them in a series

    I'm 92.4 % sure

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    Banker why did they send weaver back down?

    You know weaver has good stuff if I'm taking/cashing an under with him.

    Seirra (sp) as well that kid was a decent bat they sent him back down .

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    How bout them bats TeasaPleasa

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    Zero chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Zero chance
    Cardinals are a different team with Folwer hitting and Carpenter healthy. They still don't have an ace. I'd much rather back them at +350 to win the division then bet them to win the NL or world series, just don't see a team with no true #1 doing well in playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Zero chance
    stop Money or I'm gonna have that big goddess bitch ride your face till its ground beef

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel_CashFlow View Post
    How bout them bats TeasaPleasa
    They okay

    I mean they were tied until fowler hit the grand slam and he also had that double not like team had an offensive explosion that was fowler with 5 rbis at least.

    I know because I was on them.
    And I was on them when they hit Vargas they should hit Vargas with his soft tossing ass..

    Let's see if they hit foltynewicz tonight

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    Foltzy pretty good , 95 + fastball , but gives up lot of dingers
    i don't like Fowler hitting clean up in the long run
    tonight's game is a big one because next two are against a rookie and trash can Dickey

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    I'm on that under ^^^ but I forgot wainwright is coming back oops

    Maybe I'll get lucky And wainwright will have a decent 5 or 6 inning outing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Cardinals are a different team with Folwer hitting and Carpenter healthy. They still don't have an ace. I'd much rather back them at +350 to win the division then bet them to win the NL or world series, just don't see a team with no true #1 doing well in playoffs.
    Carlos Martinez is a ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel_CashFlow View Post


    Foltzy pretty good , 95 + fastball , but gives up lot of dingers
    i don't like Fowler hitting clean up in the long run
    tonight's game is a big one because next two are against a rookie and trash can Dickey
    Fastball is great but that breaking ball though... hes real nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Carlos Martinez is a ace.
    Banker you have jokes

    We both know Lynn is the ace of that staff Shout out to wainwright when he's right.

    I don't even play the cards side or total when old Carlos pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaserpleaser View Post
    Banker why did they send weaver back down?

    You know weaver has good stuff if I'm taking/cashing an under with him.

    Seirra (sp) as well that kid was a decent bat they sent him back down .
    Seirra makes sense cause we have kinda a log jam in the outfield as is. Better to let him be in minors getting ab's.

    The weaver question a little more complicated, he obviously has the stuff to pitch at this level and has proven everything he can in the minors. It just a situation where they not gonna let him unseat one of the starters even tho I'd argue he certainly better than leake and prob waino at this point in his career but those guys getting paid big money. What I'd like to see (and think we prob will in sept) is weaver get spot starts at least and they skip wacha and waino a few times to keep them fresh. Next season I believe he will be a full time starter for us as no way Lynn stays. Of course they have Reyes coming back as well. Never a bad thing to have a surplus of quality pitchers but I'd definitely like to see weaver get some more chances this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Carlos Martinez is a ace.
    If he's your ace you have no ace look at his number on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaserpleaser View Post
    Banker you have jokes

    We both know Lynn is the ace of that staff Shout out to wainwright when he's right.

    I don't even play the cards side or total when old Carlos pitches.
    You crazy Martinez stuff is far and away the best on the staff, and he gets jack shit for run support so I'd assume unders have hit decent amount in his games. He struggled in 1st innings last month but that nothing that won't get corrected. No gm in the league would take Lynn or waino over Carlos and it not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    If he's your ace you have no ace look at his number on the road.
    Whatever you say man, I ain't in the mood to argue w you as you think you know way more than actually the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Whatever you say man, I ain't in the mood to argue w you as you think you know way more than actually the case.
    Yeah, or I'm not a delusional homer. He's pitched out of the 6th inning twice in his last 10 starts, why do you think Vegas has this team at +2500 to win the national league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Yeah, or I'm not a delusional homer. He's pitched out of the 6th inning twice in his last 10 starts, why do you think Vegas has this team at +2500 to win the national league.
    Nope you just a uninformed douchebag.

    After a down month he still top 20 in every major statistical category. Fip, xfip, siera, k per 9.

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    Carlos Martinez is an ace themorino
    trust me , the guys stuff is wicked
    don't let win losses fool ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Nope you just a uninformed douchebag.

    After a down month he still top 20 in every major statistical category. Fip, xfip, siera, k per 9.
    Yeah, okay little buddy, by the way, have you ever noticed that Martinez seems to struggle at the end of the year almost every year. In fact he's often hurt at the end of the year. Maybe because his off speed pitches suck and he almost always wears down, which is one of several reasons why he never has been and never will be an ace. Look at the MLB teams that are contenders, Martinez isn't good enough to be an ace on a single one of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Yeah, okay little buddy, by the way, have you ever noticed that Martinez seems to struggle at the end of the year almost every year. In fact he's often hurt at the end of the year. Maybe because his off speed pitches suck and he almost always wears down, which is one of several reasons why he never has been and never will be an ace. Look at the MLB teams that are contenders, Martinez isn't good enough to be an ace on a single one of them
    Hasn't he only been around 2 full years and yes he was hurt during the last month of one of them.
    This seems personal. He bang your boyfriend or somethin?

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    Cardinals batting offense is world class standard

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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile takeover View Post
    Hasn't he only been around 2 full years and yes he was hurt during the last month of one of them.
    This seems personal. He bang your boyfriend or somethin?
    Pay him no attention he clearly retarded. Martinez has a 2.80 career era in the months of sept and oct, clearly signs of a guy that is worn down at the end of the year!!

    He says he doesn't have good offspeed pitches, clearly he has never seen him pitch. He has a plus changeup and a filthy slider..

    As you said maybe Martinez fukked his boyfriend. Ultimately dude has proven time and again he doesn't know jack shit about baseball, that much is certain.

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    Brett Cecil , Ceciling up the game as usual .
    6-1 game now 6-5 game within minutes of that pussy bitch entering the game

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