1. 07-13-17 07:03 PM #1
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    Richard Sherman's Thoughts On Guaranteed Long Term Contracts

    Speaking on the ESPYs red carpet on Wednesday night, Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman said what needs to be said when it comes to NFL contracts and the next CBA: if players want more long-term, they have to sacrifice short-term. All of them.

    “If we want as the NFL, as a union, to get anything done, players have to be willing to strike,” Sherman said. “That’s the thing that guys need to 100 percent realize.

    “You’re going to have to miss games, you’re going to have to lose some money if you’re willing to make the point, because that’s how MLB and NBA got it done. They missed games, they struck, they flexed every bit of power they had, and it was awesome. It worked out for them.”

    Former Jacksonville/Denver/Washington defensive tackle Terrance Knighton had a series of tweets recently discussing the discrepancy between NBA and NFL contracts, writing that five-time Super Bowl winner Tom Brady should make more than Golden State Warriors star Steph Curry, and Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers should be making more than James Harden, who signed a mega-deal with the Houston Rockets.

    One of the things that has been argued – and which was noted to Knighton – is that NBA rosters are 15 players, while NFL rosters carry 53. But Knighton didn’t want to hear it.

    “Last year NFL took in 13 Billion in revenue. The NBA 4.8 Billion. Miss me (with) that 53 vs. 15 man roster crap,” he tweeted.
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  2. 07-13-17 07:07 PM #2
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    They deserve just as much as the other pros are making NFL screwing them over big time
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  3. 07-13-17 07:09 PM #3
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    NFL owners will never give up that type of power
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  4. 07-13-17 07:12 PM #4
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    Guaranteed if all the players striked they would have the power
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  5. 07-13-17 07:17 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    They deserve just as much as the other pros are making NFL screwing them over big time
    What about the players in the NHL?
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  6. 07-13-17 07:29 PM #6
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    Anyone know what the average nfl payroll is vs avg nba?
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  7. 07-13-17 07:36 PM #7
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    last time i saw sherman on sportscenter he was beaten badly by greg olsen for game winning td. i think panthers got him bad multiple times that game

    time before that was the crabtree outburst = overrated and already overpaid
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  8. 07-13-17 09:14 PM #8
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    NFL players should get the most becuase their avg shelf life and injury potential
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    Sorry, but life doesn't work that way. If you want to make NBA money then join the NBA. If the NFL players feel underpaid then they should find another job or STFU. The fact most of them can't read or write might hinder them in other jobs. Sherman is more intelligent but his constant whining and crying makes me want to puke.
    They could fold up the NFL tomorrow and most people couldn't care less.
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  10. 07-13-17 09:45 PM #10
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    I think a lot of NFL players (probably including Sherman) think that if NFL contract are fully guaranteed, then they will still be getting the same contracts.

    That is a stupid line of thinking. Signing bonuses will come way down, contract length and total value will come down too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    NFL players should get the most becuase their avg shelf life and injury potential
    NFL players, as a group, do get the most. They just don't get the most per player.
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  12. 07-13-17 09:47 PM #12
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    NFL guys so underpaid

    They get killed
    weekly
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  13. 07-13-17 10:19 PM #13
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    The problem NFL players have is the average career is 3 years you have to play 5 to get a pension so 70-80% of the players in the league wouldn't benefit from long-term contracts and will never strike since they won't be in the league more than 3-4 years anyways.
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  14. 07-13-17 11:27 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    What about the players in the NHL?
    Doubt the NHl made 13 billion last year. Economics 101 if you have no stroke you don't get shit. Same reason why longshoremen union members get paid up the ass and have arguably the best contracts cause the mother fukers shut down a whole coast or 2 and everyone loses money.
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  15. 07-14-17 10:25 AM #15
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    These Baseball players never beat the fans,they beat the ownership,just so you know Mr Sherman. Most fans will move on after awhile if you strike.
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  16. 07-14-17 10:34 AM #16
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    We need player salaries to go down not up.
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  17. 07-14-17 10:51 AM #17
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    You have my sympathy, Mr Sherman.
    Soon "A Go Fund Me" for you and every NFL player will be a reality.


    Right now this has my financial attention:
    This is getting very old and remains 24K short.


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    12th Man For Marshawn Lynch


    For those of you who are not aware, our beloved "Beast Mode" Marshawn Lynch has been fined $50,000. by the NFL for refusing to speak to the media in 2013, which is a reported violation of his NFL contract. I have a few things to say about this:

    1. FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS?!? SERIOUSLY?!?
    2. Has anyone considered that Marshawn has a fear or problem with public speaking? You know, like the other 74% of the population? Watch the body language in this video and decide for yourself. Is Marshawn being difficult, or would he rather be home jamming thumbtacks through his toenails to avoid having to speak to a room full of strangers?!?






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  18. 07-14-17 02:04 PM #18
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    I hate to say it but Richard Sherman is right. It is ridiculous how the NFL handles contracts in general but how they treat their players overall. The NFL knows that their players ALL have health issues but have denied and won't come to the aid of the people that built their brand. Go look up an old timer and you would be appalled how awful their lives are with debilitating injuries that the NFL won't even recognize. A guy like Mercury Morris who had a broken neck from the NFL and yet their medical doctors would not recognize it as a viable injury. WTF? So he has to pay out of his pocket for injuries sustained years ago on the football field. Bullshit. Hundreds of players are being diagnosed with CTE and the NFL is still wishy washy on the subject. These owners are charlatans that are fooling the entire public and players. The NFL stands for "Not For Long" as everyone knows that you will never see the last year or 2 of any contract and you won't physically be able to play anyway.

    If you really knew the amount of money these owners are making, you should be mad that Tom Brady can't make an nth of that.
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  19. 07-14-17 02:53 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I hate to say it but Richard Sherman is right. It is ridiculous how the NFL handles contracts in general but how they treat their players overall. The NFL knows that their players ALL have health issues but have denied and won't come to the aid of the people that built their brand. Go look up an old timer and you would be appalled how awful their lives are with debilitating injuries that the NFL won't even recognize. A guy like Mercury Morris who had a broken neck from the NFL and yet their medical doctors would not recognize it as a viable injury. WTF? So he has to pay out of his pocket for injuries sustained years ago on the football field. Bullshit. Hundreds of players are being diagnosed with CTE and the NFL is still wishy washy on the subject. These owners are charlatans that are fooling the entire public and players. The NFL stands for "Not For Long" as everyone knows that you will never see the last year or 2 of any contract and you won't physically be able to play anyway.

    If you really knew the amount of money these owners are making, you should be mad that Tom Brady can't make an nth of that.
    Only thing that bugs me about the owners is that they make tax payers,pay for their new Stadiums.Thats what I think is bullshit
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  20. 07-14-17 03:02 PM #20
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    Man I hope there is no strike
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  21. 07-14-17 03:04 PM #21
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    College Football will have to do.
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  22. 07-14-17 03:16 PM #22
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    Hm.. playing 16 games A penetrating YEAR minus preseason and post season if they even make it.... Of that the ACTUAL game played in real game time is what 15 minutes minus the retarded walking around huddling scratching their ass in between all the downs, of that half of those penetrates dont' even play 3 downs...

    so... penetrating plays 15 minutes of actual real game time a week only 16 times a year... of that half the clowns don't even play 3 downs... and want even more money..

    Ok...
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  23. 07-14-17 03:21 PM #23
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    too many white NFL owners. Something needs to be done about this
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  24. 07-14-17 03:48 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Only thing that bugs me about the owners is that they make tax payers,pay for their new Stadiums.Thats what I think is bullshit
    Not only do they make the public pay but they then hold you hostage by threatening to move. I say a bit in jest to get rid of owners and Goodell and let the cities run them. Old farts only have interest in themselves.
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  25. 07-14-17 03:55 PM #25
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    The other leagues should take note on how the NFL does it its more competitive which in result is more entertaining
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  26. 07-14-17 05:36 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Not only do they make the public pay but they then hold you hostage by threatening to move. I say a bit in jest to get rid of owners and Goodell and let the cities run them. Old farts only have interest in themselves.
    Their such thieving little c#nts,so use to spending other peoples money.
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  27. 07-14-17 05:56 PM #27
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    yeah everyone bitching but no one is going to stop watching, and little chance players would strike in unity.


    Their real chance came and went last time when they could have let the whole thing end with something new after but instead caved. NFL basically played the "too big to fail" card on them by implying if the league went under there would never be football again lol poor suckers
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  28. 07-15-17 08:28 AM #28
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    NFL rookies are generally viewed as better seen and not heard. They are drafted, in some cases, to take the jobs of veterans. That makes them threats. And that means rookies often aren't liked by veteran players but merely tolerated.

    So when longtime NFL players express sympathy for rookies about anything, especially their earning ability, it's significant.

    "Our league has so much money," one NFC veteran told Bleacher Report, "and the young guys are getting f--ked."

    On this, many veterans agree: The biggest losers of the current collective bargaining agreement are players on rookie contracts. As set forth in the CBA, every rookie can be locked into a four-year contract (and for some first-rounders, a five-year deal). That allows teams to reap the benefits of some sizable bargains, such as the $10.4 million deal Odell Beckham Jr. is playing out with the Giants, or the $10.1 million deal Aaron Donald is in with the Rams.

    One team executive agreed rookies are getting squeezed, but he quickly added that this CBA and all of its perceived unfairness is the deal the players negotiated. No one should feel sorry for them, argues the exec. They have a union.

    "Yeah, that kind of sucks," Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier said in an interview with ESPN, speaking of the current rookie salary system. "Sometimes guys have to wait five years. Other guys don't. But that's what they agreed on in the past. Next time we've just got to do a better job of structuring what we want to do. At the end of the day, if you play at a high level, things should pan out for you."

    If there is one thing to understand about the current mood of some players in football, there is an increasing sense they didn't just lose in the last CBA negotiations, they were obliterated. Some have become increasingly angry, and that frustration has grown as players have watched NBA salaries soar.
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  29. 07-15-17 08:37 AM #29
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    phuck em
    Sunday Ticket is the most expensive sports package-I don't want to pay more for it
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  30. 07-15-17 08:40 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJD31 View Post
    The other leagues should take note on how the NFL does it its more competitive which in result is more entertaining
    NFL is boring as hell except playoffs. All sports boring until playoffs except epl
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  31. 07-15-17 08:44 AM #31
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    Sherman so overrated

    Weakness on defense


    Qb's throw right at him now
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    And people wonder why the Seahawks wanted to trade this clown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    Sorry, but life doesn't work that way. If you want to make NBA money then join the NBA. If the NFL players feel underpaid then they should find another job or STFU. The fact most of them can't read or write might hinder them in other jobs. Sherman is more intelligent but his constant whining and crying makes me want to puke.
    They could fold up the NFL tomorrow and most people couldn't care less.
    Possibly the dumbest post on this topic
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  34. 07-15-17 10:17 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    And people wonder why the Seahawks wanted to trade this clown.
    He hates Carroll. Team is divided since Superbowl fukkup. Defense hates Wilson
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    He hates Carroll. Team is divided since Superbowl fukkup. Defense hates Wilson
    Sherman's got to much mouth which doesn't help the situation. The Seahawks are a very capable Team if they have their head on straight.
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