Coach - How can players in the US play at Pinny?

[raiders72002]

Are you using a proxy server or going through a friend?

[raiders72002]

I'm using this. Is there a better way?

In order to bypass the US poker ban you will first need to hide your ip address so that instead of showing up as an American citizen you will be now shown as a Canadian. This is important as the ban only affects American citizens and not Canadians, who can freely register on all the various poker sites.

Step 1: Go To Canada411.Ca
Find someone with a common last name in either Ontario or Quebec province.

Step 2: Get Address
Pick one of these real addresses and phone numbers as your gaming account information.

Step 3: Signup at findnot.com
Findnot.com is a ip redirecting service that will forward your US ip address through Canadian servers located at Ontario and Quebec.

Step 4: Install findnot software
Now whenever you are going to log into your favourite poker site, you will first need to connect to one of findnot's Canadian servers. The servers are fast and you will hardly notice the difference.

Step 5: Signup With Neteller, Click2pay, Epassporte Or Citadel
Sign up at the sites using your real name and the Canadian address that you came up with. Most poker site do not bother with verifying your information, so as long as it appears legit you are golden. The US Internet Gambling Enforcement Act makes it illegal for online gambling sites to accept electronic fund transfers, however, you are free to deposit money from your bank or credit card into a third party pay site in this case Neteller, Click2pay, Epassporte or Citadel.

[DrunkenLullaby]

Very wise to post this info.

Yes, very wise indeed.

[raiders72002]

Very wise to post this info.

Yes, very wise indeed.

Thanks, only here to help.

[durito]

yea, but how do you get a neteller account without a foreign bank acccount/credit card? they won't take your us card/account.

[raiders72002]

Very wise to post this info.

Yes, very wise indeed.

Hate to tell you but this isn't a big secret. There's hundreds of these sites out there.

[pico]

the problem is when you try to cash out pinnacle will need

1) scanned copy of your id...how do you get that? (us ids won't do)

2) scanned copy of your utility bill for proof of residency (this is even hard to do my friend)

that is pinnacle side

now on the neteller side, they'll call the canadian number that you signed up with for security reasons. so this is a little more work, but doable.

lastly neteller is only sending out checks right now. unless you have a bank account then they can do etf, but since you don't really have a canadian account, that is more problem

you should try to figure out how to solve all these problems before you preceed. otherwise you'll be wasting time and money.

[raiders72002]

Epassporte for Poker. Sportsbooks are tougher.

[durito]

the problem is when you try to cash out pinnacle will need

1) scanned copy of your id...how do you get that? (us ids won't do)

2) scanned copy of your utility bill for proof of residency (this is even hard to do my friend)

yep.

even living in a foreign country, getting these things is difficult.

[pico]

all i am sayin, unless you have someone you trust who lives outside of USA, forget about pinnacle.

[jjgold]

Its not worth all that hassle when matchbook has better lines.

Pinnacle is a dead book now, maybe 100 usa players only.

[betplom]

yep.

even living in a foreign country, getting these things is difficult.

I live in a "foreign country" (Canada) and have no problem getting any of those documents listed.

If you are referring to foreigners living in Canada or foreigners (Americans) trying to make it appear as though they have a Canadian address, that might be a different story.

[jjgold]

Why go through all the trouble??

Doesn't make sense

[pico]

Why go through all the trouble??

Doesn't make sense

exactly. betting on pinnacle doesn't mean you'll win more.

[SPECULATOR 13]

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can he open a foreign bank account with the same bank that does business with Pinny ?or can he just open a account in the Isle Of Man with a bank of his choosing and have netteller put to the money there?.Otherwise pay that 50$ charge for a direct bank transfer.Does Pinny still ask for this ID sh*T even for a direct bank transfer?
Pinny is trying to cover it's ass with all this bullshit but if you have a foreign bank account than they are safe for any aggro.

[Zeroed]

Its not worth all that hassle when matchbook has better lines.

Right

Pinnacle is a dead book now, maybe 100 usa players only.

Bullshit of course

[pico]

can he open a foreign bank account with the same bank that does business with Pinny ?or can he just open a account in the Isle Of Man with a bank of his choosing and have netteller put to the money there?.Otherwise pay that 50$ charge for a direct bank transfer.Does Pinny still ask for this ID sh*T even for a direct bank transfer?
Pinny is trying to cover it's ass with all this bullshit but if you have a foreign bank account than they are safe for any aggro.

neteller is pretty strict. from my experience neteller is even more strict than pinnacle. i remember when i visited france for the weekend and try to login into neteller, they disabled it. i have to call up neteller give them my local number( in france) then they called me back in 10 min to verify all the account info. then i have to tell them how long i am planning to stay in france and when will i go back to my home country.

[prop]

This is really not that hard to do.

Go to Canada and open an bank account (Use your real address)
- you will need a passport to do this

Purchase a Canadian mail forward address

Get a phone # from www.vonage.ca
Use your Canadian mail forward address. request that they mail you a statement.

Open up an Ewallet ( note: moneybookers less checks in place then Neteller):
With the Ewallet use your mail forward address to register as well as your Canadian bank account. When cashing out the best idea is to always have check sent to your mail forward address which you'll then deposit into your American bank account.

The reason I suggest checks is that you don't want large volumes going into you Canadian bank account as it might cause them to report your activity to the US which could cause problems with US authorities contacting the one initiating the EFT which then blows your cover and exposes you are an American to the E-Wallet which will cause problems.

The reason you don't want to use debit cards is that it causes security flags when you are using them places other than your home address.

So fund the E-Wallet with EFT in but cash out using check.

If asked for a copy of utility bill, send the vonage phone bill.
If asked for copy of bank statement. Scan it and do a little work on it to change the address to your Canadian mail forward address.
If asked for Photo ID, send a copy of your valid passport.

[SPECULATOR 13]

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But what about a direct bank transfer PICO.?
The reason i ask is because even though i love Canada , i am starting to get sick of the 100F+ weather shift that we have to put up with every year between those sh*tty 90-95F(100-104fheatindex) muggy,suffocating,smug-filled summers in june-july-aug. to anywhere between 0.F to -10.F(-20/-25F windchill)between DEC.all the way 'till mid-march.I just can't put it with anymore, that up and down SHIFT is getting to me in a worst way.I planed on being in Vegas next year but if i got provide to Pinny(or any others) with all that ID garbage even for a DIRECT bank wire, i might well stay home and do what everyone else here is doing witch is to go to cheesy Vancouver to escape the weather.Winters are rarely under 40-49.F but summers are a perfect 70-75.F BUT man what a tacky mother-f*cking town!!.

[pico]

This is really not that hard to do.

Go to Canada and open an bank account (Use your real address)
- you will need a passport to do this

Purchase a Canadian mail forward address

Get a phone # from www.vonage.ca
Use your Canadian mail forward address. request that they mail you a statement.

Open up an Ewallet ( note: moneybookers less checks in place then Neteller):
With the Ewallet use your mail forward address to register as well as your Canadian bank account. When cashing out the best idea is to always have check sent to your mail forward address which you'll then deposit into your American bank account.

The reason I suggest checks is that you don't want large volumes going into you Canadian bank account as it might cause them to report your activity to the US which could cause problems with US authorities contacting the one initiating the EFT which then blows your cover and exposes you are an American to the E-Wallet which will cause problems.

The reason you don't want to use debit cards is that it causes security flags when you are using them places other than your home address.

So fund the E-Wallet with EFT in but cash out using check.

If asked for a copy of utility bill, send the vonage phone bill.
If asked for copy of bank statement. Scan it and do a little work on it to change the address to your Canadian mail forward address.
If asked for Photo ID, send a copy of your valid passport.

how do you get a canadian passport? looks fishy if you send pinnacle your US passport

[MrX]

If asked for Photo ID, send a copy of your valid passport.

Don't they want a photo ID from your country of residence(Canada) not a US passport?

[pico]

But what about a direct bank transfer PICO.?
The reason i ask is because even though i love Canada , i am starting to get sick of the 100F+ weather shift that we have to put up with every year between those sh*tty 90-95F(100-104fheatindex) muggy,suffocating,smug-filled summers in june-july-aug. to anywhere between 0.F to -10.F(-20/-25F windchill)between DEC.all the way 'till mid-march.I just can't put it with anymore, that up and down SHIFT is getting to me in a worst way.I planed on being in Vegas next year but if i got provide to Pinny(or any others) with all that ID garbage even for a DIRECT bank wire, i might well stay home and do what everyone else here is doing witch is to go to cheesy Vancouver to escape the weather.Winters are rarely under 40-49.F but summers are a perfect 70-75.F BUT man what a tacky mother-f*cking town!!.

not sure what you're saying. but all i want to say is that make sure you sign into neteller using the same IP as the country of residence you signed up with it or they'll block you. or you can call them AHEAD of time and tell them you'll be in certain countries. i am not sure about direct bank transfers. so far my neteller account has no activity because i just do direct bank wire to and from pinnacle.

i recently login into my neteller account, and i my only withdraw option is check...maybe i can set up ETF, but i don't really need it at this point.

[increasedodds]

Canadian banks don't care how much money you deposit in them... Some of these banks manages hundreds of billions of dollars. They don't call they US if you deposit a million. Give me a break.

Regarding pinnacle. Pinnacle has never asked me for an ID. When do they ask?

Sean

[Helmut]

Seems to me if you wire money from an account and Pinny sends all withdraw requests to this same account, there is no need for them to see identification.

I hardly think busting people who are not suppose to be playing there is on top of the security list.

[increasedodds]

They've never asked for my ID....

There is nothing on their site about asking for ID.

I assume if you send a check or use a ccard they may ask.

With wires, they could care less.

If they wanted, they could block US IPs... I would notuse one, but they are not blocked.