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  • MartinBlank
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-20-08
    • 8382

    #1
    9,223,372,036,854,775,808
    Taken from yesterday's USA Today

    For those of you who play the bracket contests....the number to start this thread is the number of different bracket possibilities that exist.

    You have a better chance at winning the powerball on consecutive weekends than you do of getting a perfect bracket.

    It would be easier to pick the winners of the next 12 World Series correctly than it is to select a perfect bracket.

    It would also be easier to predict every presidential election from now until 2260 than it is to hit a perfect bracket.

    If you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round.

    If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen.

    If the tournament expands to 96 teams, predicting a perfect bracket would be more difficult than winning the powerball on 4 consecutive weekends.

    But hey, good luck.
  • stealthyburrito
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-12-09
    • 21562

    #2
    Originally posted by MartinBlank
    Taken from yesterday's USA Today

    For those of you who play the bracket contests....the number to start this thread is the number of different bracket possibilities that exist.

    You have a better chance at winning the powerball on consecutive weekends than you do of getting a perfect bracket.

    It would be easier to pick the winners of the next 12 World Series correctly than it is to select a perfect bracket.

    It would also be easier to predict every presidential election from now until 2260 than it is to hit a perfect bracket.

    If you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round.

    If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen.

    If the tournament expands to 96 teams, predicting a perfect bracket would be more difficult than winning the powerball on 4 consecutive weekends.

    But hey, good luck.
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      so your saying there's a chance.........
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      • Pecos Bill
        SBR MVP
        • 05-27-09
        • 1958

        #4
        Originally posted by MartinBlank
        Taken from yesterday's USA Today

        For those of you who play the bracket contests....the number to start this thread is the number of different bracket possibilities that exist.

        You have a better chance at winning the powerball on consecutive weekends than you do of getting a perfect bracket.

        It would be easier to pick the winners of the next 12 World Series correctly than it is to select a perfect bracket.

        It would also be easier to predict every presidential election from now until 2260 than it is to hit a perfect bracket.

        If you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round.

        If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen.

        If the tournament expands to 96 teams, predicting a perfect bracket would be more difficult than winning the powerball on 4 consecutive weekends.

        But hey, good luck.
        You realize how ridiculous that sounds.
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        • Pecos Bill
          SBR MVP
          • 05-27-09
          • 1958

          #5
          nevermind
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          • pat venditto
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-07-07
            • 14347

            #6
            Pecos don't scratch your face anymore guey.
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            • MartinBlank
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-20-08
              • 8382

              #7
              Originally posted by Pecos Bill
              You realize how ridiculous that sounds.
              You're not too quick with Math, are you Pecos?

              No wonder you dropped out of that engineering program.

              Differential Equations had to have been brutal for you.
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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                Intertops will pay 25,000 for a perfect bracket!!!!
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                • MartinBlank
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-20-08
                  • 8382

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                  Intertops will pay 25,000 for a perfect bracket!!!!
                  That is some funny shit Fish.

                  Wow 25K. Imagine. LOL.
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103673

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                    so your saying there's a chance.........


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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MartinBlank
                      That is some funny shit Fish.

                      Wow 25K. Imagine. LOL.


                      Hat's off to their marketing department on this one.........


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                      • Bullseye
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 03-08-10
                        • 107

                        #12
                        Doesnt mean its not worth a try!
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                        • SamsNCharge99
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-22-08
                          • 41242

                          #13
                          damn

                          thats crazynness
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                          • whatsgood5
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-13-09
                            • 15359

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                            so your saying there's a chance.........
                            most under-rated quote from the most under-rated movie. Literally about 95 percent of the time I say this, people have no clue what the hell I'm talking about.
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                            • nobs
                              Restricted User
                              • 08-31-09
                              • 4216

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MartinBlank
                              Taken from yesterday's USA Today

                              If you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round.

                              If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen.

                              I think these are two pretty obvious assumptions. So now the odds are down to 4,096 t0 1 ??? That isnt that bad. I thought it would have been higher. There are some more pretty obvious assumptions one could make as well, bringing the odds down to 2500 to 1 probably.

                              This cannot be compared to powerball. Its not a blind draw.
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                              • Boscoe
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-08-10
                                • 2811

                                #16
                                4,096 to 1 for each region. so... for all four regions you're looking at 4,096^4 = 281,474,976,710,656 to 1 that you'll fill out four perfect region brackets assuming only a 1-8 seed will win. that doesn't include the last two games.
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                                • polskboy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-29-10
                                  • 1688

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                  Taken from yesterday's USA Today For those of you who play the bracket contests....the number to start this thread is the number of different bracket possibilities that exist. You have a better chance at winning the powerball on consecutive weekends than you do of getting a perfect bracket. It would be easier to pick the winners of the next 12 World Series correctly than it is to select a perfect bracket. It would also be easier to predict every presidential election from now until 2260 than it is to hit a perfect bracket. If you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round. If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen. If the tournament expands to 96 teams, predicting a perfect bracket would be more difficult than winning the powerball on 4 consecutive weekends. But hey, good luck.
                                  thtas why betjm offered 1000000$
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                                  • tltaylor89
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-19-09
                                    • 19610

                                    #18
                                    ANything is possible
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                                    • DOMINATER
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 3698

                                      #19
                                      Martin 4 consecutive weeks in a row ,Iwould say thats as close as impossible gets.
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                                      • yisman
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-01-08
                                        • 75682

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jerseyshop101
                                        an interesting tidbit i found at webwire:

                                        There are 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 possible brackets. That’s the number nine follow by eighteen zeros. That’s over 9.2 quintillion. Some examples of just how big this number is:
                                        If everyone on the planet each randomly filled out a bracket, the odds would be over 1.5 billion to 1 against anyone having a perfect bracket.

                                        If all possible brackets were stacked on top of each other (on standard paper), the pile would reach from the moon and back over 1.1 million times.

                                        All possible brackets (on standard paper) would weigh 100,000 times more than every man, women, and child on earth combined.

                                        Assume on the day the universe was formed (approximately 20 billion years ago) that 6.6 billion people (the world’s current population) would have each started filling out one bracket per second; as of today they would completed less than 10% of all possible brackets.

                                        even if a person had a 90% chance of winning each game he picked, his odds would still be 763 to 1 against picking a perfect bracket.

                                        i say the odds are still better for an sbr poster to ht this baby! :d

                                        bring on march madness!


                                        . .
                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                        [/quote]

                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                        • Glitch
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-08-09
                                          • 11795

                                          #21
                                          its pretty impossible to pick a perfect bracket BUT the odds are significantly better than 9000000000000000000 to 1 because you have to factor in knowledge of the individual teams and whatnot. many of those combinations have ark pine bluff making it out of the first round
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                                          • DoubleEM
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 09-15-09
                                            • 241

                                            #22
                                            A lot of those combinations have Ark-Pine Bluff winning!
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                                            • Jaug
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-11-09
                                              • 3087

                                              #23
                                              Perfect opportunity for the books to make contest where it looks like they are giving away a lot of money but in reality with a $1 mill price for perfect bracket the EV is probably 1 cent.
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                                              • Vesuvius
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-19-08
                                                • 3886

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                                Taken from yesterday's USA Today

                                                For those of you who play the bracket contests....the number to start this thread is the number of different bracket possibilities that exist.

                                                You have a better chance at winning the powerball on consecutive weekends than you do of getting a perfect bracket.

                                                It would be easier to pick the winners of the next 12 World Series correctly than it is to select a perfect bracket.

                                                It would also be easier to predict every presidential election from now until 2260 than it is to hit a perfect bracket.

                                                If you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round.

                                                If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen.

                                                If the tournament expands to 96 teams, predicting a perfect bracket would be more difficult than winning the powerball on 4 consecutive weekends.

                                                But hey, good luck.
                                                I don't know about this one...considering they aren't even bored yet.
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                                                • fsugolf
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-17-09
                                                  • 6194

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Vesuvius
                                                  I don't know about this one...considering they aren't even bored yet.


                                                  I'm bored from reading this, but I have already been BORN


                                                  ridiculous chances though
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                                                  • Jive
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-10-10
                                                    • 1405

                                                    #26
                                                    Right on, glitch. Comparing the odds of hitting consecutive powerball jackpots to a perfect bracket is apples to organges. Powerball is 100% pure luck. When it comes to picking brackets, there is a lot of skill involved in addition to luck. The odds aren't 50/50 for each game. If you think that is the case I will gladly take Syracuse straight up at even money against Vermont in a wager against you. There may be 4,096 ways for seeds 1-8 to make the Final Four, but all those ways aren't equal in odds. This is why every year multiple people have perfect brackets in things such as ESPN's bracket challenge.

                                                    Picking a perfect bracket is hard; very hard, and it requires a lot of luck. But it is no where near the odds of an all-luck thing such as a lottery.
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                                                    • fsugolf
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-17-09
                                                      • 6194

                                                      #27
                                                      so many combinations, so little time
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                                                      • smitch124
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-19-08
                                                        • 12566

                                                        #28
                                                        Didn't someone have a perfect bracket a few years ago on the ESPN site?
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                                                        • Domer
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-21-10
                                                          • 1046

                                                          #29
                                                          If you assume every 1 seed beats every 16 seed, the number of possibilities goes down by an astronomical amount (that #16 seed is eliminated from every other possible round).

                                                          edit....oh the article does that: 268,435,456

                                                          so there's probably going to be a couple of perfect brackets every year given the number of people who do them.
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                                                          • yisman
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-01-08
                                                            • 75682

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jive
                                                            This is why every year multiple people have perfect brackets in things such as ESPN's bracket challenge.
                                                            This is not true. "Multiple people" do not have perfect brackets every year.
                                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                            [/quote]

                                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                            • yisman
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-01-08
                                                              • 75682

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by glitch
                                                              many of those combinations have ark pine bluff making it out of the first round
                                                              The odds aren't 50/50 for each game. If you think that is the case i will gladly take syracuse straight up at even money against vermont in a wager against you.
                                                              Originally posted by martinblank
                                                              if you assume all #1 seeds win their opening game, there are still 268,435,456 different outcomes for the first round. If you assume a team seeded 1-8 will make the final four---there are still 4,096 ways for that to happen.
                                                              See: article.

                                                              Originally posted by jive
                                                              Comparing the odds of hitting consecutive powerball jackpots to a perfect bracket is apples to organges.



                                                              organges?
                                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                              [/quote]

                                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                              • yisman
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-01-08
                                                                • 75682

                                                                #32
                                                                and:

                                                                "even if a person had a 90% chance of winning each game he picked, his odds would still be 763 to 1 against picking a perfect bracket."

                                                                90%. No one has even close to that.
                                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                [/quote]

                                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                • Dank_Fire
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-13-09
                                                                  • 2274

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                  Intertops will pay 25,000 for a perfect bracket!!!!
                                                                  lmao......what a slap in the face....they would probably give the winner a 12X rollover
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