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  • biggamer3
    SBR MVP
    • 04-16-07
    • 2163

    #1
    My problem with the SBR ratings...
    lets examine why a book gets an "A" or above rating ok?

    1) It pays out without a problem

    2) It offers great lines

    3) Offer good bonuses,without crazy rolloevers

    If a book does these three things well i see no reason why it shouldnt be "A", so in that regard you are correct for basically failing Oddsmaker, BUT if in order to get an "A" or above rating you have to be perfect in all aspects how the hell does Bookmaker not just get an A but an A+?

    1) They have by far the worst MLB lines of any book, BY FAR!
    For example, Right now Bookmaker has Boston ML at -165
    WSEX has them at -157

    LAA ML are -151 to WSEX's -143

    So basically every game they are worse than there competitors, yet they get a better rating

    2) Dont know about there payouts, lets assume they are good, but they are dishonest about bonuses, they said 20% bonus i put in 200 they say minimum is 300 for bonus, after there was no mention of this tidbit

    All in all i am just wondering why Bookmaker gets high ratings?
  • raiders72002
    SBR MVP
    • 03-06-07
    • 3368

    #2
    1) It pays out without a problem
    This is all that matters.
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    • biggamer3
      SBR MVP
      • 04-16-07
      • 2163

      #3
      Originally posted by raiders72002
      This is all that matters.
      Ok i agree this is the most important factor, but if it doesnt do all three perfect how can it get an A+?

      All i am asking is A+ should mean perfection, not just good for paying out
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      • Zeroed
        SBR High Roller
        • 08-05-07
        • 245

        #4
        Bookmaker has early lines, that is important for many bettors.
        They are also a shop that has been around forever and always paid, and they did bail outs for tanking crap books several times.
        The loyalty prog is decent, so are the limits.

        Iam not a huge Cris fan, but i can live with them being A+.
        The only rating i strongly dislike at the moment is BetOnline at A-
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        • rjt721
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-06-07
          • 7929

          #5
          In regard to Bookmaker, you're right, there's no need at all for them in bases. However, their early football lines, combined with the fact they pay, is enough to warrant their "A+" rating. BM's a great book and a must have. I have no problem at all with their ''A+'' rating.

          Greek is another terrible book for MLB, but with everything else they offer, they're also worthy of their rating. Each book has its strengths and weaknesses.

          The only major gripe I have with SBR's ratings is Matchbook not being an ''A+'' book. I understand exchanges are rated differently, but any way you look at it, Matchbook's an ''A+'' book.
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          • Zeroed
            SBR High Roller
            • 08-05-07
            • 245

            #6
            Originally posted by rjt721
            The only major gripe I have with SBR's ratings is Matchbook not being an 'A+' book. I understand exchanges are rated differently, but any way you look at it, Matchbook's an 'A+' book.
            That is because they haven´t been around that long, A- is a very strong rating already when you consider that.
            And they could be A+ by next year.
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            • rjt721
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-06-07
              • 7929

              #7
              Originally posted by Zeroed
              That is because they haven´t been around that long, A- is a very strong rating already when you consider that.
              And they could be A+ by next year.
              That's true. It's all a matter of personal preference, really.

              Originally posted by Zeroed
              The only rating i strongly dislike at the moment is BetOnline at A-
              You're saying they should be lower, correct?
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              • Zeroed
                SBR High Roller
                • 08-05-07
                • 245

                #8
                Originally posted by rjt721
                You're saying they should be lower, correct?
                Yep B- at best.
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                • Willie Bee
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-14-06
                  • 15726

                  #9
                  Originally posted by biggamer3
                  ...but they are dishonest about bonuses, they said 20% bonus i put in 200 they say minimum is 300 for bonus, after there was no mention of this tidbit
                  Not sure when you made your deposit, but we've had mention of the $300 min deposit in our review for a while now LINK
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                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #10
                    Where are you getting your 3 criteria?

                    Just because that's what you look for in a book, doesn't make it how sbr rates them.

                    Cris/Bookmaker, like any book, has it's advantages/disadvantages. But, they pay, which is far and away the most important thing
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                    • Bill Dozer
                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                      • 07-12-05
                      • 10894

                      #11
                      Originally posted by biggamer3
                      lets examine why a book gets an "A" or above rating ok?

                      1) It pays out without a problem

                      2) It offers great lines

                      3) Offer good bonuses,without crazy rolloevers

                      If a book does these three things well i see no reason why it shouldnt be "A", so in that regard you are correct for basically failing Oddsmaker, BUT if in order to get an "A" or above rating you have to be perfect in all aspects how the hell does Bookmaker not just get an A but an A+?

                      1) They have by far the worst MLB lines of any book, BY FAR!
                      For example, Right now Bookmaker has Boston ML at -165
                      WSEX has them at -157

                      LAA ML are -151 to WSEX's -143

                      So basically every game they are worse than there competitors, yet they get a better rating

                      2) Dont know about there payouts, lets assume they are good, but they are dishonest about bonuses, they said 20% bonus i put in 200 they say minimum is 300 for bonus, after there was no mention of this tidbit

                      All in all i am just wondering why Bookmaker gets high ratings?
                      Do you play totals?

                      Bookmaker often has a good baseball line right before the game. It's not the one stop shop for bases but both BM and fellow 20 center TheGreek are worth having IMO. When you do see a line you can get down good on it.

                      WSEX is a top baseball book and ranked high on our Best MLB Lines page
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                      • spliff
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-16-06
                        • 547

                        #12
                        Originally posted by biggamer3

                        2) Dont know about there payouts, lets assume they are good, but they are dishonest about bonuses, they said 20% bonus i put in 200 they say minimum is 300 for bonus, after there was no mention of this tidbit
                        I think you're wrong calling them dishonest- I'd call it the customer being lazy and not checking the stips beforehand. Your fault. My advice would be to ask for any rules/requirements before depositing for a bonus in the future.

                        Their live chat feature works very well, even late at night and they will explain all the bonus rules to you. I think the bonus info is under promotions on their website as well.
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