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  • fearless
    Restricted User
    • 08-14-06
    • 4950

    #1
    Torturer General Resigns
    I can't describe my loathing for this "man" in words. From the NY Times:



    By STEVEN LEE MYERS and PHILIP SHENON
    Published: August 27, 2007

    WACO, Tex., Aug. 27 — Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, whose tenure has been marred by controversy and accusations of perjury before Congress, has resigned. He is expected to announce the decision to reporters at 10:30 Eastern time this morning in Washington.

    Mr. Gonzales, who had rebuffed calls for his resignation for months, submitted his to President Bush by telephone on Friday, a senior administration official said.

    Mr. Bush has not yet chosen a replacement but will not leave the position open long, the official said early this morning, speaking on condition of anonymity because the resignation had not yet been made public.

    Mr. Bush repeatedly stood by Mr. Gonzales, an old friend and colleague from Texas, even as Mr. Gonzales faced increasing scrutiny for his leadership of the Justice Department, over issues including his role in the dismissals of nine United States attorneys late last year and whether he testified truthfully about the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs.

    Earlier this month, at a news conference, Mr. Bush dismissed accusations that Mr. Gonzales had stonewalled or misled a congressional inquiry. “We’re watching a political exercise,” Mr. Bush said. “I mean, this is a man who has testified, he’s sent thousands of papers up there. There’s no proof of wrong.”

    Mr. Gonzales’s resignation is the latest in a series of high-level departures that has reshaped the end of Mr. Bush’s second term. Karl Rove, another of Mr. Bush’s close circle of aides from Texas, stepped down two weeks ago.

    The official who disclosed the resignation today that the turmoil over Mr. Gonzales had made his continuing as attorney general difficult. “The unfair treatment that he’s been on the receiving end of has been a distraction for the department,” the official said.

    A senior administration official said today that Gonzales, who was in Washington, had called the president in Crawford, Tex., on Friday to offer his resignation. The president rebuffed the offer, but said the two should talk face to face on Sunday.

    Gonzales and his wife flew to Texas, and over lunch on Sunday the president accepted the resignation with regret, the official said.

    On Saturday night, Gonzales was contacted by his press spokesman to ask how the department should respond to inquiries from reporters about rumors of his resignation, and Gonzales told the spokesman to deny the reports.

    White House spokesmen also insisted on Sunday that they did not believe that Mr. Gonzales was planning to resign. Aides to senior members of the Senate Judiciary Committee said over the weekend that they had received no suggestion from the administration that Mr. Gonzales intended to resign.

    Senator Charles Schumer, the New York Democrat who sits on the committee and has been calling for Mr. Gonzales’s resignation for months, said this morning: “It has been a long and difficult struggle, but at last the attorney general has done the right thing and stepped down. For the previous six months, the Justice Department has been virtually nonfunctional, and desperately needs new leadership.”

    Senator Schumer said that “Democrats will not obstruct or impede a nominee who we are confident will put the rule of law above political considerations.”

    Steven Lee Myers reported from Waco, Texas, and Philip Shenon reported from Washington.
  • BatemanPatrickl
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-21-07
    • 18772

    #2
    Looks like the Bush administration is crumbling; most are leaving to protect the President. The guy was a hack who hired more hacks.
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    • Skankdog
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-25-07
      • 174

      #3
      What a disgraceful time in U.S. History. Let us look at a couple of facts:

      Before the Bush Adminstration: Oil was $19 per bbl, now it is over $70.
      The U.S. dollar has lost over 30% in value over his term.
      We killed the only guy who could control Iraq wether you liked him or not.
      I could go on and on, what a Disgrace, not to mention that we have lost most of our friends in the world and that everyone in the world hates the U.S. now.
      Incredible.
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      • BuddyBear
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-10-05
        • 7233

        #4
        The U.S. is in big trouble right now......I blame the corporate media and the people who voted for Bush each and everyone of them. They've brought misery and harship to this country by electing the worst president in the history of this country.

        All these wacko conservatives are up in arms over Hillary....and as much i find her lame, cliched, and weak on many many issues....i have a hard time believing she could do any worse than Bush even if she tried.

        In a way i am glad Bush served 8 years in office so people in this country can learn and see first hand how truly bankrupt, callous, and hypocritical the conservative ideology and movement is.
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        • tacomax
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-10-05
          • 9619

          #5
          Originally posted by BuddyBear
          In a way i am glad Bush served 8 years in office so people in this country can learn and see first hand how truly bankrupt, callous, and hypocritical the conservative ideology and movement is.
          I'm sure that a large percentage of the population would still vote for him if he was allowed to run for a third term.
          Originally posted by pags11
          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
          Originally posted by BuddyBear
          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
          Originally posted by curious
          taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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          • Dark Horse
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-14-05
            • 13764

            #6
            This must have been the darkest time in American history by far.

            If it gets any darker the horse will need reflective lights.


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            • operaman
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-21-06
              • 157

              #7
              Originally posted by tacomax
              I'm sure that a large percentage of the population would still vote for him if he was allowed to run for a third term.

              What do you mean by "large percentage"?

              There are many Americans that still say they approve of the president (many= %30), but most of them do so only because he is president or to tote the party line. He is one of the least popular men in the us right now. Most of his support is just about saving face.


              It is tiresome to hear all the anti-American swipes from people who don't realize that nations are the enslavers of people not a representation of people. (Note: I am not saying tacomax is one of these people, but his tone seems to suggest so.)

              We should stop thinking of ourselves as Americans, or Brits, or Jews, or Christians. Nationalism and Religion are for suckers.

              Man will never be free until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest.
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              • fearless
                Restricted User
                • 08-14-06
                • 4950

                #8
                Originally posted by operaman
                What do you mean by "large percentage"?

                There are many Americans that still say they approve of the president (many= %30), but most of them do so only because he is president or to tote the party line. He is one of the least popular men in the us right now. Most of his support is just about saving face.


                It is tiresome to hear all the anti-American swipes from people who don't realize that nations are the enslavers of people not a representation of people. (Note: I am not saying tacomax is one of these people, but his tone seems to suggest so.)

                We should stop thinking of ourselves as Americans, or Brits, or Jews, or Christians. Nationalism and Religion are for suckers.

                Man will never be free until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest.
                I'm with you 100%!

                Govern means Control. Ment means Mind. Government: Mindcontrol

                No one has the right to control your mind except you. Doesn't that make all governments evil?

                Let's start the "Ignore Government Party"! No one has the right to control minds!
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                • Dark Horse
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-14-05
                  • 13764

                  #9
                  I'm all for anarchism, but ment does not mean mind. If we're referring to the same Latin source that would be 'mens'.

                  In Germanic languages this has become the word for 'man' (as in human). German: Mensch. Dutch: mens. That makes sense, because man has to solve the riddle of the mind.

                  Basement, statement, argument, parliament. This ment has more of the meaning of heid or keit in Germanic languages. And so it is seen that 'apartheid' really means apartment.

                  My excuse: total lunar eclipsement. Moon does represent the mind, at least in astrology.
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                  • BuddyBear
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 7233

                    #10
                    Originally posted by operaman
                    What do you mean by "large percentage"?

                    There are many Americans that still say they approve of the president (many= %30), but most of them do so only because he is president or to tote the party line. He is one of the least popular men in the us right now. Most of his support is just about saving face.


                    It is tiresome to hear all the anti-American swipes from people who don't realize that nations are the enslavers of people not a representation of people. (Note: I am not saying tacomax is one of these people, but his tone seems to suggest so.)

                    We should stop thinking of ourselves as Americans, or Brits, or Jews, or Christians. Nationalism and Religion are for suckers.

                    Man will never be free until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest.

                    I agree with the logic about empowering people and such. But disagree vehemently with the notion that Americans are smart enough to realize the evils of the Bush administration. Why is he even at 34% popularity....he should be at 0-5%???? If they were so smart why would they have elected this man a second time into office when he was clearly horrible in his first term?

                    Elections these days are a lot like trying to sell toothpaste or a particular clothing style. Campaigns are out to sell an image of the candidate....campaigns these days are largely scripted, rehearsed, and absent of discussion of any of the real important issues. And of course the corporate media acquiesces to this style of campaigning by reporting not on the substance of the campaign and the specic policy issues and proposals of the candidates but rather stories that involve some type of conflict between the candidates (i.e. Hillary vs. Obama endlessly) or about poll results that are largely misleading. Of course since most Americans are generally ill-informed about politics and just don't care...most Americans have very low standards when it comes to their candidates and presidential campaigns.

                    Needless to say had the corporate media been doing their job by asking tough questions we would not have been served the worst president in the history of this country for two terms.

                    For instance, just to give you an idea of just how bad these campaigns are, during the 2004 presidential election John Kerry who was according to military records, eyewitness testimony, and even on the record statements praising Kerry for his service in Vietnam by those who eventually attacked him (i.e. SwiftBoat Veteran's for "truth") somehow became a traitor to his country and George Bush who ran as fast as he could away from serving his country became a war hero and an expert in military affairs??????

                    That should tell you all you need to know about just how capable the American electorate is in deciding who they put into the highest public office and couple that with the corporate media who does not report on the campaign issues....you have the making for a possible 3rd term of the Bush administration if he were to run again. Trust me, he would get millions of votes.
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                    • dante1
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 10-31-05
                      • 38647

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                      I agree with the logic about empowering people and such. But disagree vehemently with the notion that Americans are smart enough to realize the evils of the Bush administration. Why is he even at 34% popularity....he should be at 0-5%???? If they were so smart why would they have elected this man a second time into office when he was clearly horrible in his first term?

                      Elections these days are a lot like trying to sell toothpaste or a particular clothing style. Campaigns are out to sell an image of the candidate....campaigns these days are largely scripted, rehearsed, and absent of discussion of any of the real important issues. And of course the corporate media acquiesces to this style of campaigning by reporting not on the substance of the campaign and the specic policy issues and proposals of the candidates but rather stories that involve some type of conflict between the candidates (i.e. Hillary vs. Obama endlessly) or about poll results that are largely misleading. Of course since most Americans are generally ill-informed about politics and just don't care...most Americans have very low standards when it comes to their candidates and presidential campaigns.

                      Needless to say had the corporate media been doing their job by asking tough questions we would not have been served the worst president in the history of this country for two terms.

                      For instance, just to give you an idea of just how bad these campaigns are, during the 2004 presidential election John Kerry who was according to military records, eyewitness testimony, and even on the record statements praising Kerry for his service in Vietnam by those who eventually attacked him (i.e. SwiftBoat Veteran's for "truth") somehow became a traitor to his country and George Bush who ran as fast as he could away from serving his country became a war hero and an expert in military affairs??????

                      That should tell you all you need to know about just how capable the American electorate is in deciding who they put into the highest public office and couple that with the corporate media who does not report on the campaign issues....you have the making for a possible 3rd term of the Bush administration if he were to run again. Trust me, he would get millions of votes.

                      Yes, he would get millions of votes. That is because we have millions of crazy people. Apologists for the neo's and the "Christian" right wing nut cases would still vote for this man. Even though very little of what he represents or accomplishes has anything remotely to do with Christianity.

                      All a R has to do is tell people he is a Christian and many of the extreme right wing will vote for him. We still have a huge number of people that are religious fanatics and all that distinguishes them from other religious fanatics is an extra 500 years of religious evolution. Christians no longer kill in the name of God, most of the time that is. If you examine the Christian history centuries ago you will be amazed at the resemblance to the extremist Muslims of today. Hopefully, with time they too will abandon violence.

                      However, I don't think we will see his kind in the very near future. In fact, he and his administration may have probably been the best thing for the D's in the next few national elections. Too bad it was the worst thing for the country.
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                      • Seattle Slew
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-02-06
                        • 7373

                        #12
                        The theme on this page is exactly how I feel about Bush and his crooked team, who he hand-picked for jobs they were not qualified for.

                        In 100 years, kids in schools will be educated about this presidency and teachers will have to explain how this guy was re-elected after one of the worst first terms in history. Maybe Jimmy Carter was worse in modern times, but Bush's legacy will take down his father's, who I think was a good president despite the economy which was his downfall. He foreign policy was his strength and his kid just pissed over how it's supposed to be done.
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                        • dante1
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 10-31-05
                          • 38647

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seattle Slew
                          The theme on this page is exactly how I feel about Bush and his crooked team, who he hand-picked for jobs they were not qualified for.

                          In 100 years, kids in schools will be educated about this presidency and teachers will have to explain how this guy was re-elected after one of the worst first terms in history. Maybe Jimmy Carter was worse in modern times, but Bush's legacy will take down his father's, who I think was a good president despite the economy which was his downfall. He foreign policy was his strength and his kid just pissed over how it's supposed to be done.


                          Seattle

                          I must agree his father was a decent man and an above average president. He had the common sense to stay away from attacking Iraq. The irony in that is today's VP, I even hate to say his name, was totally against invading Iraq at that time. And every reason he gave was correct, how he became so stupid in such a short period of time is amazing.

                          I am hard pressed to find many domestic or foreign policies decisions that made sense from this administration. He even pisses off true conservatives.

                          I think all the D's have to do to win is plaster a picture of Bush next to every opponent and connect him/her to this administration.
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                          • Seattle Slew
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-02-06
                            • 7373

                            #14
                            I've thought the same thing about Cheney. The one thing I thought Bush had going for him was experience on his team. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell. How all these people became so dumb is really the amazing thing. You'd think someone would have stepped up and said "wait, think about this....."

                            Bush 40 did the right thing with Saddam. He built the coalition with dozens of nations to get him out of Kuwait, not to overthrow his government. If the U.S. had kept going into Baghdad, it would have been chaos and Bush 40 would have been ripped for not sticking to the plan. I don't think the criticism of him for not finishing Saddam off is legit. It was not that easy.

                            [QUOTE=dante1;329111]I must agree his father was a decent man and an above average president. He had the common sense to stay away from attacking Iraq. The irony in that is today's VP, I even hate to say his name, was totally against invading Iraq at that time. And every reason he gave was correct, how he became so stupid in such a short period of time is amazing.
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