so should I buy a freeplay or cash?

[mdemps9190]

Just zero'd my account at 5Dimes, only had a couple dollars left in it anyways. Still have some cash at bodog but need another book similar to 5dimes. Should I buy a freeplay worth 100 at some other book (i want reduced juice and fast lines) or should I get cash? Any suggestions? With either of these is there a maximum withdrawal? Also I don't really care about the rollover. If anyone would like to donate some points so i get up to 600 that would be appreciated as well.

[nobs]

Demps, free play is the way to go for sure.

Cash usually cost double the same amount in free play but is only worth about 20% more.

Take Bet Phoenix, you can get $50 cash for 450 points or you get $50 free play for exactly half that 225 points. So say you had 450 to spend, you could get $50 cash or $100 free play.

The choice is clear as the $100 free play is worth at least $75 cash, probably more.

Here is what I mean.

You take your real accounts and you find a big ML game. Like I mean a game with a ML of -600 +500, you play the -600 ML in an account where you have real cash play it $420 to win $70. Then you play your $100 Free Play at +500 play it to win $500.

So If the big Favorite wins, you just added $70 to your real money account, no rollovers no nothing. If the Dog wins, you just won $80 on the match play ( 500-420). If you are patient and willing to wait, you can probably find a ML of -800 at your real money book and a take back of +750 or +800 at the book you have the match play at, then your match play is worth like 85% or 87%,

Just be careful not to go over the withdrawal limit.

Anyways some books back in the day would ask when you first deposit, what do you want --- a 20% cash bonus or a 40% match play. If you take the 20% cash bonus they knew you're a square, degenerate long term loser.

[bigboyfosho]

Demps, free play is the way to go for sure.

Cash usually cost double the same amount in free play but is only worth about 20% more.

Take Bet Phoenix, you can get $50 cash for 450 points or you get $50 free play for exactly half that 225 points. So say you had 450 to spend, you could get $50 cash or $100 free play.

The choice is clear as the $100 free play is worth at least $75 cash, probably more.

Here is what I mean.

You take your real accounts and you find a big ML game. Like I mean a game with a ML of -600 +500, you play the -600 ML in an account where you have real cash play it $420 to win $70. Then you play your $100 Free Play at +500 play it to win $500.

So If the big Favorite wins, you just added $70 to your real money account, no rollovers no nothing. If the Dog wins, you just won $80 on the match play ( 500-420). If you are patient and willing to wait, you can probably find a ML of -800 at your real money book and a take back of +750 or +800 at the book you have the match play at, then your match play is worth like 85% or 87%,

Just be careful not to go over the withdrawal limit.

Anyways some books back in the day would ask when you first deposit, what do you want --- a 20% cash bonus or a 40% match play. If you take the 20% cash bonus they knew you're a square, degenerate long term loser.

Awful adivce on betting both sides with a free play, awful, ban

[NDIrish9]

Lol. A $100 freeplay is the same thing as $50 cash - except if you push on a wager with cash you get it back, but with freeplays a push = loss

[OMGRandyJackson]

Just depends I guess...free play you only get what you win on that bet, while cash you get your wager plus the win.

[whatsgood5]

I guess it really shouldn't matter either way

[nobs]

Awful adivce on betting both sides with a free play, awful, ban

I said to use a different book. Learn how to read.

[nobs]

Lol. A $100 freeplay is the same thing as $50 cash

LOL. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Wow, I knew there were people who thought that 10 years ago, but I didnt think there was a gambler left in the world who didnt understand that a free play is worth more than 50% cash.

[nobs]

Moneyline on Wright State vs. Youngstown State -475/+400

$100 Free play at Bet Phoenix

Bet Youngstown +400 to win $400

At any other book

Bet Wright State -475
$332.50 to win $75

If Youngstown wins, the $100 Match play is worth $67.50
If Wright State wins, its worth $75

Either way, the $100 match play is NOT the same as $50 cash

[JerseyShop101]

Guys,

Not to leave the other good books out, but looking for the best value and comparing these 3 books, I have the following:

$50 FreePlay
WagerChief 199 points (3.98 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betphoenix 225 points (4.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betjamaica 312 points (6.24 points for 1 freeplay dollar)

$100 Freeplay
WagerChief 360 points (3.60 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betphoenix 375 points (3.75 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betjamaica 550 points (5.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar)

$250 Freeplay
WagerChief 875 points (3.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betphoenix 900 points (3.60 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betjamaica 1250 points (5.00 points for 1 freeplay dollar)

$50 Cash
WagerChief 400 points (8 points for $1 cash)
Betphoenix 450 points (9 points for $1 cash)
Betjamaica 600 points (12 points for $1 cash)

$100 Cash
WagerChief 999 (misprint?) points (9.99 points for $1 cash) WagerChief/SBR pls fix. Should be 720?
Betphoenix 825 points (8.25 points for $1 cash)
Betjamaica 1100 points (11 points for $1 cash)

$250 Cash
WagerChief 1750 points (7 points for $1 cash)
Betphoenix 1875 points (7.50 points for $1 cash)
Betjamaica 2500 points (10 points for $1 cash)

[mdemps9190]

ok what if I don't want to do this double ML thing. Also does betphoenix have a restriction on its free plays? And what do they mean you only get the winnings? It doesn't actually matter does it, because it still is credited back to my account (the wager) just into free plays. If i'm not concerned about rolling over it shouldn't matter, correct?

[biggamerife21]

Cash Money

[JerseyShop101]

Lol. A $100 freeplay is the same thing as $50 cash - except if you push on a wager with cash you get it back, but with freeplays a push = loss

"A $100 freeplay is the same thing as $50 cash"
Its really worth 75% cash (with no risk involved)

"but with freeplays a push = loss"
Thats not true for every book.

[Doug]

Yikes, this is too dumb a Query to answer !

[JohnGalt2341]

Does a $100 Freeplay have to be used on 1 bet?

[nosniboR11]

no john

[mdemps9190]

i dont know how this is a dumb question at all...I'm just asking if it really even matters for the "they only pay you your winnings" like they pay back your wager just back into freeplay I assume. and no a freeplay doesn't have to be used on 1 bet.

[nobs]

"A $100 freeplay is the same thing as $50 cash"
Its really worth 75% cash (with no risk involved)

"but with freeplays a push = loss"
Thats not true for every book.

I have never had a match play push graded as a loss.

[nobs]

Yeah he means if you bet the $100 free play on a -110 its actually considered $0 to win $91 so if you win you just get $90.91 not the $100 also.

[MC PICKS]

Cash

[JerseyShop101]

ok what if I don't want to do this double ML thing. Also does betphoenix have a restriction on its free plays? And what do they mean you only get the winnings? It doesn't actually matter does it, because it still is credited back to my account (the wager) just into free plays. If i'm not concerned about rolling over it shouldn't matter, correct?

Also does betphoenix have a restriction on its free plays?
I just looked up betphoenix, same as Wagerchief they have +/- 200 limit on freeplays.
Free Plays can be used on Money lines between -200 and +200

And what do they mean you only get the winnings?
All Free Plays are restricted to the WINNINGS ONLY. The risk amount will not be credited when a free play wager results in a win for the customer. (This is normal for freeplays everywhere)

It doesn't actually matter does it, because it still is credited back to my account (the wager) just into free plays

If your freeplay wins, the "cash" is placed in your cash balance. The freeplay amount you risked is gone- you don't get that back.

If i'm not concerned about rolling over it shouldn't matter, correct?
Depends, some like to hit the rollover and cash out immediately like its an ATM machine, lol, but its your money, you can do it. If your winning, you would probably hit over 10x rollover anyway. But just so you know, in the past I have deposited a Monday night (no bonus), hit the MNF game, and cashed out on Tuesday morning.

[JerseyShop101]

I have never had a match play push graded as a loss.

I'm not sure which other books count it as a loss, but at Bookmaker it is:

11. If a free play is used in a specific wager whose outcome is a push or a tie, the free play is lost.

I just make sure I play my freeplays on lines that are .5s.

[mdemps9190]

so you're saying if I bet 100 dollars on a +100 bet and it wins. I now have 100 in cash and nothing left in my freeplay?

[whatsgood5]

so you're saying if I bet 100 dollars on a +100 bet and it wins. I now have 100 in cash and nothing left in my freeplay?

Yep this is true

[JerseyShop101]

so should I buy a freeplay or cash?

Its your personal choice, but you get the most bang for your points by purchasing freeplays as you can see in my post above. (It costs double the amount of points for the cash, which is way more expensive, as the freeplay basic cash value is 75%)

[JerseyShop101]

so you're saying if I bet 100 dollars on a +100 bet and it wins. I now have 100 in cash and nothing left in my freeplay?

Thats correct, and thats also the reason why you would never put a freeplay on a straight wager (assuming your only playing at this one book and not using any other freeplay strategy). But like I said above, for point value, freeplays are the way to go.

[vitalogist]

GET THE FREEPLAY.

BetPho has restrictions, you can only use it on +200 / -200 moneylines. But two team teasers, and three team parlays are the way to go. I just got a $170 freeplay at another book - basically my goal is to hit two three teamers, turn that $170 into $240 or more. I have 8 shots with a $20 three teamer. Even if I only hit one, I'm happy. With your $100 freeplay, you could do 8 $10-15 threeteamers, just do your capping!

This way you have 8-10 chances to win $85-$100. Just be patient, do your rollover, and cash out! It requires patience.... discipline! I like it, though, it's as much fun to grind every day as it is to just dump $500 on one game and sweat it out! And way more fun than losing that $500.... GL whatever you do, let us know!

[JerseyShop101]

so you're saying if I bet 100 dollars on a +100 bet and it wins. I now have 100 in cash and nothing left in my freeplay?

mdemps, please don't take this the wrong way, but you've been been a player since 07 and really haven't dealt with freeplays?

[mdemps9190]

haha I know right. No I agree I sound like an idiot. I really have never done a freeplay for a sports book before. Bodog offered me a bonus freeplay once because they messed up with a wager of mine, but besides that nope. Only poker freeplays before.

[JerseyShop101]

haha I know right. No I agree I sound like an idiot. I really have never done a freeplay for a sports book before. Bodog offered me a bonus freeplay once because they messed up with a wager of mine, but besides that nope. Only poker freeplays before.

Hey no problem.

But it would of been nice to hear you've only had to make 1 deposit, and have been winning ever snce.

Good luck, I hope you kick azz, with whatever you choose!

[mdemps9190]

yeah I think im going to just do cash...since I dont want to feel like I'm winning just to keep my money

[clover12346]

Freeplay

[clover12346]

always

[mdemps9190]

but with freeplay I am in essence betting to try and turn my fake money into real money and I dont like that idea as opposed to having a solid bankroll regardless

[SBR Lou]

but with freeplay I am in essence betting to try and turn my fake money into real money and I dont like that idea as opposed to having a solid bankroll regardless

Cash orders are priced higher for that reason, freeplays are of lower cost and present some good value but if you want to not worry about getting the stake amount returned, max odds on a team in a parlay etc, I'd advise going with SBR Store sportsbook cash.