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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Since the All Star Break Phillies are the best team in the majors.
    Look it up.

    Jays are not sniffing the World Series with Estrada as the 2 man of the rotation, an unproven bullpen, suspect defense and no team speed to speak of.

    LA Angels or KC will represent the AL, deal with it.
    You can't power hit your way to a crown, 1988 A's could not do it, I can cite a million cases, defense and pitching wins, and Toronto don't have it, splooge all over the Tulo, Encarncion, Bautista, Donaldson line up all you want, that's all Toronto has, a loaded 1 through 6 lineup, nothing more.
    Nash you know a lot more about baseball than me admittedly...I'm a hockey guy.

    But you're showing your ignorance when it comes to the jays.

    Their defense is solid since Reyes left. Have you seen goins or pillar even play?

    Their top 4 starters are as a good as any in the AL.

    The bullpen is much improved with Lowe and Hawkins.

    Osuna and Sanchez are young and unproven I'll give you that.

    This team is the best in the majors right NOW.

    No guarantee they win it all but they'll be the betting faves going into the playoffs IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Too funny.
    Price and Cuteto are equal, the rest of the rotations are equal, Jays have more power, KC owns Toronto in every other aspect, defense, speed, bullpen, playoff experience.....

    Shit, Jays are still a second place AL East team.....

    Get over yourself dude.
    Get over yourself dude says the most arrogant guy On the forum.

    I fully admit I'm a massive homer.

    But no fuking way is the royals starting 4 as good as the jays.

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    You know I am pushing your buttons, right?

    First off, that was a nice sweep over New York, however what the Yankees have done so far this season was done with smoke and mirrors, they are not as good as their record indicates.

    If you go back a page or two, I gave Pillar and Goins props for their defense, they are the best with the glove the Jays have, and they have mad defensive skills. and Donaldson is rock solid as well at third.

    Having said that, Perez for KC is the best defensive catcher in the AL, the KC outfield is ranked 1, 2 and 4 Gordon, Cain and Dyson, in the AL. KC has 6 gold glove caliber defenders.

    Toronto is a one trick pony, a very powerful offensive team with not much else.
    KC can run wild on Russ Martin, any ball that Toronto does not hit over the wall will be caught, and any game close with KC will not be blown with the best bull pen of this generation.

    KC is so much more the complete team.

    And it's not arrogance if you can back it up (loi)

    Yeah, your NHL knowledge is amazing, I wish I had more time to dedicate to that game.

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    All the best nasher, I'm a massive homer.

    and lord knows we haven't had much to cheer about up here.

    leafs,raps,jays.

    fml.....

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    ^
    Never should have got rid of Vince Carter, and speaking of Carter, Joe Carter's homers gave me thrils.
    I have nothing against Toronto sports, but the Leafs are run by idiots.

    Peace brother

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    Jays will come back down to earth....Just be happy you caught the Yankees in their worst offensive stretch (and it started with Boston so it wasn't your pitching)

    Congrats but the Yankees are still in first....we'll see ya again soon

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    Kansas City > Toronto > Yankees.

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    And yes the Royals are much better than both teams.....Still think Yankees win the East when it's all said and done even though I might be the only one left

    Blue Jays not going 9-1 their next 10

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    I kind of think Toronto is going to pass up the Yankees and leave them in their dust. I just don't know if the Yankees have enough starting arms.

    It'll be interesting to see if this guy Severino is the real deal.

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    I think the Blue Jays will flame out in the post season. I don't think they have a strong enough bullpen to win close games.

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    Screw everything else... angels r the best team!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    Nash you know a lot more about baseball than me admittedly...I'm a hockey guy.

    But you're showing your ignorance when it comes to the jays.

    Their defense is solid since Reyes left. Have you seen goins or pillar even play?

    Their top 4 starters are as a good as any in the AL.

    The bullpen is much improved with Lowe and Hawkins.

    Osuna and Sanchez are young and unproven I'll give you that.

    This team is the best in the majors right NOW.

    No guarantee they win it all but they'll be the betting faves going into the playoffs IMO.
    Boeing is right.. i was about to start this thread myself.

    seriously. who's better?

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    Don't sleep on the Astros either.

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    U smoking crack if u really think the Jays the best team in the majors. Who cares about right now, at one point, many teams were the "best team right now," in the majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakers714 View Post
    U smoking crack if u really think the Jays the best team in the majors. Who cares about right now, at one point, many teams were the "best team right now," in the majors.
    ok.

    i may be smoking crack. but i assure it is the good stuff.
    (not anything that would cloud my judgement, or sway my emotions in any way)

    IN FACT, it is the variety of crack that heightens one's perception–
    thus my earlier comments regarding.. rather backing Toronto
    as MLB's best.. is even more true.

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    They're hot right now bro. They don't have starting pitching. Very hard to win it all with just offense. Teams go to 3-4 man rotations and shorten the game with awesome bullpens. Just off the top of my head, the Angels and Astros went on monster winning streaks. People said they were the hottest team in baseball at the time, but never the best team in baseball. U got Dickhead and who after Price?

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    Great thread.
    Now I can't decide whether the jays are good or not

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    Blue Jays are legitimate and no one wants to see them right now end of story. Everyone waiting for pitching to kill them when Hutch can go out and give up 18 and the Jays score 35 it's pretty insane really.

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    yeaaaah okay - Jays starters > KC starters

    Price > Cueto
    Burehle = Volquez could give a slight edge to volq
    Dickie > Duffy
    Hutch > Young
    Estrada > Ventura

    did you see what the jays did you KC's so called amazing bullpen recently?

    and don't even talk about the Angels their season is done, they have no pitching whatsoever and will be lucky to make the wildcard at this point. people are delusional. hop on the bandwagon while there is still room left.

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    No team is as good as they look when playing well, nor as bad as they look when playing poorly.
    Right now the Jays are simply playing well.
    Let's see what happens in September.

    Speaking of "best" teams ... the obvious answer is the Cardinals thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugh_jorgan View Post
    No team is as good as they look when playing well, nor as bad as they look when playing poorly.
    Right now the Jays are simply playing well.
    Let's see what happens in September.

    Speaking of "best" teams ... the obvious answer is the Cardinals thus far.

    thats a broad statement that is not necessarily true. The cardinals are always solid but have trouble scoring runs. Their pitching is unbelievably good

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    Live in Toronto and have been a fan for many years..know the staff inside out..I know this team all too well.....its a nice run we are on..but the city, the talking heads and the fan boys need to take a step back and not get too excited...there a little more than a third of the season left...just under 40 games...I have watched Buehrle and Dickey all year...one is consistent, the other is not...both will need a strong bull pen to bail them out if we do manage to make it to october...

    That leaves Hutchinson...who is a disaster waiting to happen...Will Stroman replace him? i doubt it...can they go with a 3 / 4 man rotation in the post season should they make it and move hutch to the bull pen? Maybe....either way, he cannot be allowed to see post season action prior to the ALCS if the jays make it that far...he is their liability...

    Pitching has always been their liability...even before the trades/new acquisitions they were outscoring opponents, yanks were not really 6 games better than everyone else, its just that the jays were blowing games late and getting blown out early because of bad relief and poor starting pitching...gotta see how things look in September before we start calling world series shots...

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    Royals Mets

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    Angels nothing

    Erratic
    Pitching


    Inconstant pitching

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    NYM in
    STL in
    LAD in

    TOR in
    KC in
    HOU in


    Need to make a move immediately

    Texas
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    Cubbies (yes they are currently)
    Baltimore


    Bleeding like Megan

    Yankees
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    Jays will probably find a way to blow it.

    I just seriously hope that they don't

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    Mo they will not blow it, the pitching staff has elevated their game. Playoffs are coming I hope you Jay fans are ready because regardless of NFL I will be watching this year all the way through.

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    Offensive powerhouse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
    Mo they will not blow it, the pitching staff has elevated their game. Playoffs are coming I hope you Jay fans are ready because regardless of NFL I will be watching this year all the way through.
    I am ready Razzler,


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    i think the Jays are going all the way.

    best hitting and best pitching (or top 3) in baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    i think the Jays are going all the way.

    best hitting and best pitching (or top 3) in baseball

    Toronto is no way near top 3 in pitching .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    i think the Jays are going all the way.

    best hitting and best pitching (or top 3) in baseball

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    Jays fans this better be all we hear out of you for a decade. No way all of this happens again next year right?? Financial gurus check in and tell me no way.

    Pitching is not necessary right now, give Oakland a t-ball stand and they are probably still losing.

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    Best hitting team in since the 50's Yanks yes..... Best pitching team no effin way

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