"I Don't Bet at this A-Rated Book, because . . ."

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Fill out the following:

I don't bet at this SBR "A" Rated Book, ____________, because:

Could be a bad personal experience; that you don't like some policy or other that they have; or some more exotic reason.

Doesn't mean the book doesn't deserve its high rarting. Just that it's not for you.

But don't put a book down that's not available to citizens of the land in which you reside. Like, I don't bet at Pinnacle because I live in Hungry Horse, Montana.

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And I'll start off.

I don't bet at Bet Jamaica, nor any of the books in the Greek orbit, because I don't like their policy of requiring a govt-issued photo ID to make a withdrawal.

Doesn't seem to matter how you withdraw, even if not by credit card. They want your picture ID faxed to them.

I don't like giving that to anyone, tho I'm forced to if stopped for a ticket by a cop, or opening a bank account.

I did fax it to Canbet years ago to wd. Didn't like it, but Australia is a First World country, the risk was relatively small.

However, Jamaica is not in the First World. A BetJam rep told me a few years ago, when I asked the reason for this policy, said "we just want to know who our customers are."

My question is - why? If you have the same info, name & address, that other books have that don't require such info, why the curiosity?

And how much is the info on an American DL worth on the mean streets of Kingston? (Disgruntled employees with access to sensitive info are, like the poor, "always with us.")

[BatemanPatrickl]

I can see this thread going sour...

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And I remember last year, when I had an account at BoDog, that I called to inquire about an apparent inconsistency in one of their policies, that the guy on the other end of the cs line, asked me my mother's maiden name.

Huh?

I asked him what the hell that had to do with anything. He said it was to verify I was who I said I was, and that I'd supplied it when I joined BoDog.

The hell I did. Yeah, I'm gonna give that kind of info over the phone to some joker sitting in a book in Costa Rica!

Here was a guy sitting in a 3rd World nation, harvesting info that could be used for ID theft, and maybe ready to quit his job to go into a diffferent kind of biz.

I gave him a phony name. But I wonder how many true maiden names he got, and maybe, for the more sucker-sounding callers, SS numbers as well.

[JBC77]

I can understand what your saying. I don't feel comfortable sending my ID anywhere either. That being said, The Greek and BetJam have been responsible with customers information. It's not a scam book, these guys are respectable. I like playing there too much to let a photocopy of my ID stop me.

What concerns me more is the data bases people in the online world are selling with our names, phone numbers and where we live. I don't know exactly how it works.....but somehow being a customer of a book comes with no confidentiality. So somewhere in the circle of online gambling our information is being pooled and stolen or sold. I don' t like getting sales calls from books....but I get them. How did they get my number? They bought it.

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I can see this thread going sour...

Just an honest inquiry.

Few I think who access this site are going to be opening accounts at D or F books.

Just trying to supply info on the quality ones. There are obviously many, many bettors who do not mind faxing their govt IDs to a small 3rd world country.

And likely there has never been, and never will be, a problem with it.

But it's a prob for some, I know that.

A kind of Gresham's Law then goes into effect.

And it's "on-topic." Like all betting sites, this one has too much OT stuff, too much incestuous backtalk between people who know each other. Folks using a pub forum for IM and TM

It may surprise them to know that most folk don't find that particularly fascinating. Once in a while it's OK. But I see that Omniverous Frog just leaped the pond over to a place where he can better exhibit his warts. For the reason, as he stated there, that this forum is too centered around a few posters.

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I can understand what your saying. I don't feel comfortable sending my ID anywhere either. That being said, The Greek and BetJam have been responsible with customers information. It's not a scam book, these guys are respectable. I like playing there too much to let a photocopy of my ID stop me.

What concerns me more is the data bases people in the online world are selling with our names, phone numbers and where we live. I don't know exactly how it works.....but somehow being a customer of a book comes with no confidentiality. So somewhere in the circle of online gambling our information is being pooled and stolen or sold. I don' t like getting sales calls from books....but I get them. How did they get my number? They bought it.

As I noted, the Greek books have never had a problem with that kind of sensitive info, but I know for a fact that they would get more clients if they dropped the requirement.

I just referred a horseplayer I know to a book in CR. I told him that BetJam was also good, if he didn't mind sending him a copy of his DL when he withdrew. "Hell no," was his response. Not too untypical, I think. So he opened his account with a good book that did not have that requirement to wd.

[Mudcat]

I don't bet at LEGENDZ because . . .

I'll just copy previous comments from a thread about what books we are surprised are still in business:

First book that came to mind for me: Legendz. Don't get me wrong; I like the people there and I wish them well. But they have full juice with no opinionation, low limits, weak selection, not-particularly-great bonuses.

For anything a player could want, there are multiple books that do it better. Yes Legendz pays but they are not the only book that pays.

It's hard for me to see why people deposit.

I use Greek. They have my driver's license and it doesn't particularly bother me but I can see your point.

[Willie Bee]

I don't play at Pinnacle because...they won't let me.

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I don't play at Pinnacle because...they won't let me.

Exactly.

Because you live in Hungry Horse MT. And they don't even have a local there, not for thousands of miles in any direction.

[Zeroed]

I don´t play at Betfair because i think they are greedy bums.
I don´t play at Legenz because their lines suck, but i play at pig.
I don´t play at 5Dimes because they are a square book with low limits and put me on delay.
I don´t play at Will Hill/Bet365 because they suck, really really bad.
I don´t play at Bestline because they obviously don´t want customers outside the U.S./Canada. They also are anti-pro.
I don´t play at Betonline because of the same reason as Bestline, AND i could never trust that book.
I don´t play at VIP because they did cut my limits very fast.
I don´t play at VC because they are prolly just another useless british book.

[SBR_John]

Its perfectly fine not to play somewhere even if a lot of people are. We have a lot of people write us and say they dont play any more at XYZ A rated book because they feel unlucky there.

Plus, picking a book is a lot like buying a car. Some folks only want a truck. Others want to save gas and still others want safety as a primary concern.

[bigboydan]

I don't play at Pinnacle because...they won't let me.

Exactly Willie