What's a Pinnacle lean?

[hhsilver]

Recently someone referred to a Pinnacle lean. Could someone please explain that term.

thanks

[raiders72002]

It means that Pinny has the best number on the game. They want bets on that side. It's done to offset a huge bet or Syndicate plays.

[curious]

It means that Pinny has the best number on the game. They want bets on that side. It's done to offset a huge bet or Syndicate plays.

Does that mean you should bet with the syndicate play or take advantage of the better line if you think there is value there, and bet against the syndicate? Or, it doesn't mean anything and you handicap your game and go with the best line you can find?

[raiders72002]

Say a Syndicate hits the Bears at -7 at Pinny. Pinny will now change the line to -7.5 or -8.

You then want to run to another book and jump on the -7 if you follow the Pinnacle lean.

Pinny moves it to -8 to get +8 players.

[hhsilver]

Thanks for the reply, raiders.

If one is looking for the lean, I suppose the trick is to know whether the change is a lean or the response of people betting the better number created by a previous lean or maybe another lean in the other direction from a previous lean you may or may not be aware of. I remember reading how the computer group would sometimes bet early one way to move the line before coming back and betting huge the other way.

Along those lines (not betting lines), I remember the guy from Pinnacle Pulse was in here recently extolling the benefits of betting the night before to get the best of the lines. To me that was nonsense unless you knew in advance which way the line would move overnight. I used to bet at pinny at night if I thought the line would move against me. I was wrong as often as right. The pulse guy made it sound like you just bet at night and it's an advantage. What drivel.

[Dark Horse]

If you just play Pinny and Greek leans, i.e. take the line after the movement, you'll probably do very well.

[Actionbrett]

For instance this morning Pinnacle had the Over/Under on the Cubs v. Cardinals game at 9.5, every other book had it at 10(except bodog).

Pinnacle was looking for money to be spent on the Over and it looks like they got it because the line jumped up to 10 about an hour prior to game time.

Following the Pinnacle lean would mean a under play on this event.

[Otters27]

[QUOTE=Dark Horse;322008]If you just play Pinny and Greek leans, i.e. take the line after the movement, you'll probably do very well.[/QUOTE

How affective would blindly just playing football underdog leans be?

[pico]

pinnacle lean doesn't mean anything. it is just show what people are betting, you can look at the http://www.sbrodds.com/ and check the betting trend.

[Otters27]

Also, what is a Syndicate or Syndicate play?

[Actionbrett]

To my knowledge the don't happen often but i only started to follow them since January of this year, after football. Dark horse seems to know maybe he will read this thread again.

Someone in this forum a while back mentioned something that was pretty profitable when comparing lines from a sharp book (pinnacle/greek) to a square book (SIA/Betus/Sportsbook) following the sharp book line, especially on nationally televised games.

With experience you will find out what books are begging for action on a single game.

[Otters27]

what about this situation in todays NFLX games.

Tampa/Jax u/o opens at 33. According to wajorline consensus 67% is on the under. But the line has moved from 33 to 36 1/2Why does this line keep moving up? Do they want action on the under still? All books are 36 1/2 accross the board. What is happening here?

[Actionbrett]

Wagerline in ver inaccurate so I wouldnt follow them at all.

I'm showing 50/50 on the over/under wagers on the total in this game. For the line to move that much without lopsided wagering you follow the smart money and take the over.

[raiders72002]

pinnacle lean doesn't mean anything

[raiders72002]

Otters - Sometimes the line moves in the opposite direction of the consensus. This usual means that Syndicates are heavy on one side and the books are moving to that rather than the consensus.

Carib gives you the % on each side.

Syndicate is a group that gets together to bet. This way they can get more money down and circumvent limits.

[jjgold]

Bet the opposite of the huge line moves not matter who is playing them and you will always hang in there. Betting any book lean is not that easy.

[curious]

Bet the opposite of the huge line moves not matter who is playing them and you will always hang in there. Betting any book lean is not that easy.

I'm not sure I understand what this means. Using the Over total example above, what would be "betting the opposite of the huge line move"?

So, would the opposite of this line move be the OVER bet, because the move benefits the UNDER bet?

[Scorpion]

If you just play Pinny and Greek leans, i.e. take the line after the movement, you'll probably do very well.

i agree but why not cris?